Open 867: PYP: SEFD - Day Three

[PenguinPower]

Hello

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: johnny

[PenguinPower]

I DECLARE YUME PORKENS NORTHSIDEGAL NOT KNOWN 15 AND ME AS MASONS

AT BEST ONLY ONE MAF HERE


NOT VOTING RODEN, SLOT WILL SELFRESOLVE


THEREFORE WE ALL SHALL KILL GAMMA

Please don’t post like this. I thought you were dr worm the 2nd for a minute.

[PenguinPower]

BASED OFF THE DRAFT I'D SAY ONE OR BOTH OF GAMMA/DANNFLOR + PENGUIN/JOHNNY/KITTY ARE SCUM. IF THIS DRAFT SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUN BEFORE I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT NUMBERS WERE CHOSEN BY SCUM IN THE PAST.

It has been run before multiple times, and I’ll think you’ll find why I chose the number I did is obvious.

[PenguinPower]

BASED OFF THE DRAFT I'D SAY ONE

OR BOTH

OF GAMMA/DANNFLOR + PENGUIN/JOHNNY/KITTY ARE SCUM. IF THIS DRAFT SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUN BEFORE I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT NUMBERS WERE CHOSEN BY SCUM IN THE PAST.

Wait what

Where you get this idea from, why scum would pick same number as teammates

TO MISLEAD

This is true. Iirc scum did that in the last iteration I played and Hoopla endgamed because of it.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: gamma

vote people!

[PenguinPower]

Before things go to far, just wanna mention to not let Penguin or especially nsg slide without justifying their votes on me

I will go ahead and preempt this with

[PenguinPower]

gamma knows why (or should know why) i voted there and that's all that matters

[PenguinPower]

with respect, i'm gonna hold off on answering that for now.

[PenguinPower]

gamma knows why (or should know why) i voted there and that's all that matters

nope

lol - that's bs

[PenguinPower]

like I feel you're overly worried about the seriousness of a page 5 wagon on you

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Downplaying

i'd probably say uncertain rather than downplay. the latter implies actively working to de-emphasize rather than simply being transparent about where you stand

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By the way i'm usually more inclined to lynch more quiet people day 1 so I'm okay with Yume nk15 or not_mafia too at this point, might change my mind tho

FYI since you've been gone awhile...

For many years, the word “lynch” was used to describe the person who was voted out by town in a mafia game. We no longer allow this word to be used.

[PenguinPower]

Downplaying

i'd probably say uncertain rather than downplay. the latter implies actively working to de-emphasize rather than simply being transparent about where you stand

Yes, exactly, that’s what NSG is doing, I think.

oh - then i just disagree with you

[PenguinPower]

like I feel you're overly worried about the seriousness of a page 5 wagon on you

question for you:
what is the impression of me that you've gotten over the time you've interacted with me?

whilst emotional - not to that extent this early.

[PenguinPower]

you'd be wrong about that

not sure how i can be wrong on my impression? that's a subjective ask.

[PenguinPower]

is it me

no, it me.

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you'd be wrong about that

not sure how i can be wrong on my impression? that's a subjective ask.

Your impression is that I wouldn’t be sensitive this early
I’m saying you’re wrong on that specifically

I can only act from my experience and impression.

[PenguinPower]

Who do you recommend?

[PenguinPower]

Who do you recommend?

I recommend killing mafia

And who would you recommend starting with to achieve that goal?

[PenguinPower]

Who do you recommend?

I recommend killing mafia

And who would you recommend starting with to achieve that goal?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: enchant

[PenguinPower]

I don’t think that’s true tbh. Stop being more useless than me and maybe try actually answering and see what happens though.

[PenguinPower]

That should have said NM. My bad.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: enchant

I don’t think that’s true tbh. Stop being more useless than me and maybe try actually answering and see what happens though.

What's the issue with Enchant here? I feel like he's Doing Things^TM right now.

Awesome!

What are those things you feel he’s doing?

[PenguinPower]

Spoiler: Content

But for real, either stop with the targeting or explain yourself

Well as i said i won't vote any of "masons" today for sure.

I also won't vote Rosen.

There's also specific members which i don't want to vote for example NM (also how NM and ... Which this one they both sumbitted 14 together i forgot nickname whatever)

Therefore randomly (not really) i picked you


Now selfvote

BASED OFF THE DRAFT I'D SAY ONE

OR BOTH

OF GAMMA/DANNFLOR + PENGUIN/JOHNNY/KITTY ARE SCUM. IF THIS DRAFT SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUN BEFORE I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT NUMBERS WERE CHOSEN BY SCUM IN THE PAST.

Wait what

Where you get this idea from, why scum would pick same number as teammates

To encourage enchant to talk about the gamestate.

Hey i supposed to be blind idiot, why you ask me?

Fairly i "think" gamestate is easy, if mafia are greedy for power as i think.

I would nudge people with higher numbers. Not because they mafia. Just because why not.

Then depends.

Fuck if i knew, I didn't need you all and won solo.

I already said. NUDGE PPL WITH HIGH PICKS.

For example i nudged Gamma not just because it's hilarious, but because 2 fits.

Now can you tell me what your issue with Enchant is please?

Not answering me?

I feel like that was SUPER obvious.

[PenguinPower]

Readalong thoughts

Spoiler:

VOTE: johnny

No hard feelings abt lost... right?
_

Enchant has some vague nondescript beef with me, I would rather he actually speak his mind rather than just target me nonsensically

Gamma opens real spicy lately
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I also won't vote Rosen.

Uh why? They haven't even posted yet?
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TO MISLEAD

This makes me not trust you at all
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you’ll find why I chose the number I did is obvious.

Looked back to see if you picked 69 or sum
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@Enchant

has Gamma indicated their annoyance with you voting them early in the past?
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Mafia Goon is like Vigilante, but you fight with two weirdos for right to use it

This made me laugh
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I picked 1 because I thought everyone else would second guess their way out of it.

Trying to decide if this is "I have a cool anecdote" or "I'm being preemptively defensive"
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IDRC ABOUT THE 1 CHOICES, I RULED THAT NUMBER OUT RIGHT AWAY.

Gamma's clearly not following you here and neither am I.
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THAT'S HOW I ROLL

Lol I like this guy
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mm my heart is saying that Junko entering the game dumb telling to this extent is more town indicative

there is an off chance she thought she could take advantage of her extended absence from the site but this feels... a little too blatant?

maybe I'm reading too much into something that's just NAI

I win entire scum games because of thinking like this. Some of us are just dumb.
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What's the reason for Junko town?

WOAH Nk is in this game
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Stealth hi bye
I got the role I wanted

What a ballsy intro I love it
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Yeah I feel like scum might very well have picked whatever would confuse town the most.

On top of that with the variable nature of this setup I'm sure I could come up with a reason why scum would pick every single option on this board
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I played a bunch with GE as both alignments and he usually isn't this... I don't know what it is I see in his posts but it's weird.

Gamma's big mad lately.
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what's your interpretation of NK15's one post? do you think it's just NAI?

You didn't ask me this but solely popping in to push back on a townread seems more scummy than townie.
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Lol porky agrees
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in fact i think the process is like very marginally town indicative for nsg even though i disagree

I agree with this whole post
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By the way i'm usually more inclined to lynch more quiet people day 1 so I'm okay with Yume nk15 or not_mafia too at this point, might change my mind tho

@Junko

- do you review your posts before you submit them? Or do you just play more off the dome?
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Junko do you any reads

have

do you have any reads

Live with your choices coward
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so who we killing

I'd prolly be pushing for Junko or maybe Dann at this point in the read, if anybody.
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And are you voting them “for pressure” or do you actually scumread them?

I feel like this is obvious at the point of post
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yume nk15 not_mafia and jhon still haven't said anything about the current state of the game

Lol I've been added to the list
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Gamma…

You were scum in that game

LOL
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NM making exactly one post and then fucking off means he probably isn't having fun. Which could mean he can't troll anyone in a scum PT, so slight +town.

This is the best way to read NM I've ever encountered

Dannflor playing straight man to this whole clown thread is fun to read.

On Gamma vs. everybody: I'm just not feeling Gamma's wagon. I don't trust Bear or Junko atm, pengy is always a question mark. On top of that I don't know what is happening with Gamma lately but they seem troubled and it's coming through as aggressive exasperation over and over again in games lately. It's NAI and honestly hard to read around.

I'll basically vote Enchant whenever, they're a hard read.

Those are my thoughts off the dome. AMA

Johnny gets to be town for longer than a lot of the rest of you.

[PenguinPower]

Spoiler: Content

But for real, either stop with the targeting or explain yourself

Well as i said i won't vote any of "masons" today for sure.

I also won't vote Rosen.

There's also specific members which i don't want to vote for example NM (also how NM and ... Which this one they both sumbitted 14 together i forgot nickname whatever)

Therefore randomly (not really) i picked you


Now selfvote

BASED OFF THE DRAFT I'D SAY ONE

OR BOTH

OF GAMMA/DANNFLOR + PENGUIN/JOHNNY/KITTY ARE SCUM. IF THIS DRAFT SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUN BEFORE I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT NUMBERS WERE CHOSEN BY SCUM IN THE PAST.

Wait what

Where you get this idea from, why scum would pick same number as teammates

To encourage enchant to talk about the gamestate.

Hey i supposed to be blind idiot, why you ask me?

Fairly i "think" gamestate is easy, if mafia are greedy for power as i think.

I would nudge people with higher numbers. Not because they mafia. Just because why not.

Then depends.

Fuck if i knew, I didn't need you all and won solo.

I already said. NUDGE PPL WITH HIGH PICKS.

For example i nudged Gamma not just because it's hilarious, but because 2 fits.

Now can you tell me what your issue with Enchant is please?

Not answering me?

I feel like that was SUPER obvious.

He did answer you though? Do you mean that you just didn't like the answer?

He responded. He didn't answer the question.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: dann

[PenguinPower]

I now have a super duper secret scumread.

[PenguinPower]

Bleu cheese is yucky

I retract my previous town read.

[PenguinPower]

BEHOLD

READLIST

Yume - Good/Not Touching
Enchant - hm
Roden - Neutral/Not Touching
northsidegal - Good/Not Touching
SCRRRDBEAR - Neutral
Not_Mafia - My liege/Not Touching
JohnnyFarrar - Bad/KOS
KittyTacky - Bad/KOS
PenguinPower - Bad/KOS
Gamma Emerald - Bad/KOS
JunkoChan - Neutral
Dannflor - Neutral
Not Known 15 - Good/Not Touching
Porkens - Good/Not Touching


I am not going to explain these obviously.

Well, hell.

Never thought I’d see this from you. Not a good list overall but beggars can’t be choosers.

[PenguinPower]

So why are you voting a neutral read?

[PenguinPower]

not sure why I even asked…I guess there was a glimmer of hope.

[PenguinPower]

If I were to vote an avi it would be one of the two mfers who don't have one


HEY PENGUIN vote dann

I got u despite your palate.

VOTE: dann

[PenguinPower]

The reasoning is ridiculous.

What's ridiculous about it?

[PenguinPower]

shush, dann. I'm asking the questions here.

[PenguinPower]

[PenguinPower]

The number had to be between 0 and 14, it's in the rules

Could you point out for me where it says that?

once alignments have been dealt out, each player must send a (whole, positive) number back to the mod, with the lowest unique number winning the draft.

[PenguinPower]

How do I know you aren't lying now.....

[PenguinPower]

What question?

[PenguinPower]

I can't answer that rn.

[PenguinPower]

repeating that over and over does not make it true

[PenguinPower]

Johnny’s reads leave something to be desired imo

what about them do you take issue with?

[PenguinPower]

I mean - I read his comment as funny but the vote as serious...

[PenguinPower]

Sure - but in the absence of that, I'm offering my viewpoint.

[PenguinPower]

lol - that was the reason for Roden voting Dann. Weird to extend that to everyone else.

[PenguinPower]

Naked votes don’t mean they are devoid of reason or for the same reason.

[PenguinPower]

That’s such a simple-minded view.

[PenguinPower]

Nah.

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Lol - so predictable

[PenguinPower]

Everyone. I refused to explain a read Day 1.

[PenguinPower]

Are you always this robotic?

[PenguinPower]

Cool.

[PenguinPower]

Cool.

[PenguinPower]

For "stealing the trademark"

[PenguinPower]

How do I know you aren't lying now.....

The number had to be between 0 and 14, it's in the rules

Oh shit the kid fucked up and sent a different version of the rules to scum VOTE: not_mafia

Guys it's Not_Mafia, he's a trollface as both alignments.

I…I was joking….

[PenguinPower]

Can we like…focus on this game and alignment in this game?

[PenguinPower]

Yeah...demanding things from people like that doesn't generally make them want to comply...

I wasn't even talking to you...

[PenguinPower]

most likely gamma porkens NSG

likely penguin katty jhonny

less likely dannfloor yume roden

Rest: Town

I know going from 13 to 9 ain't much but hey, it's day 1

Why are you trying to guess the whole scumteam?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: junko

[PenguinPower]

this site's meta is a joke

self-votes

[PenguinPower]

most likely gamma porkens NSG

likely penguin katty jhonny

less likely dannfloor yume roden

Rest: Town

I know going from 13 to 9 ain't much but hey, it's day 1

so these aren't paired teams?

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

well that was a whole lot of nothing, it changed nothing on my pov, actually semented the groups I'm pairing up

I don't know why you say of course not when you put your reads in groups of three and said the above.

[PenguinPower]

Why aren't you voting gamma?

[PenguinPower]

Unbelievable that lurkers get a pass but I Say i have to be LA and this happens*

also I'm trying to answer everything I can right now, cuz I'll be busy until tuesday night.

I have like an hour or so more

so if you got anything else to ask about 598 or 608 ask now or wait til then

CAN YOU GO THROUGH YOUR TOWN READS REAL NICE AND SLOW?

y u m e

n o t _ m a f i a

s c r r r r r r r r r d b e a r

and E n c h a n t

You're townreading three of the lurkers...

Why did you say Yume is a town read but also had Yume as scum.

[PenguinPower]

He is on My "less likely" list wdym?

Right - Yume is on your less likely

scum

list but then you go on to say Yume is

town

while you leave off NK15 completely who isn't on your scumlist at all.

I mean - idk that I'm being technical more than you have some inconsistencies that I'm trying to understand.

[PenguinPower]

That’s what I’m trying to figure out.

[PenguinPower]

Halloween wif kiddos, bbl

Same. Time to start the march around the neighborhood.

[PenguinPower]

One last thing first…

Junko have you self voted as town before

yes, many times I don't remember if i did in this site tho, i't been a while

i don't care as long as the people who i think is scum is in the wagon and can be crossed after

silly? maybe

effective? often

stilysh? of course not

He is on My "less likely" list wdym?

Right - Yume is on your less likely

scum

list but then you go on to say Yume is

town

while you leave off NK15 completely who isn't on your scumlist at all.

I mean - idk that I'm being technical more than you have some inconsistencies that I'm trying to understand.

You gonna address this or no?

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: junko

That’s nm’s e-1.

[PenguinPower]

IMO this is town, I somehow doubt scum would self-vote at E-2 and put themselves at risk of a lucky lolhammer.

I can't believe that putting self at E-2 now considered dangerous.

Well - both you and NM are in the game soooo....

[PenguinPower]

don't think junko would have known that though

[PenguinPower]

Not_Mafia [1]: Not_Mafia
JohnnyFarrar [1]: Dannflor


Not Voting [1]:Porkens

Hi.

Do something plskthx.

[PenguinPower]

junko already claimed they missed out on doc/jk which I assume they mean doc/roleblocker

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

could you stop voting yourself?

[PenguinPower]

Also Penguin you’re kinda being gullible here if every time Junko self-vote like that you get baited into unvoting

I want to give some people time to weigh in and N_M isn't on wagon.

My vote is still there in spirit.

[PenguinPower]

NM making exactly one post and then fucking off means he probably isn't having fun. Which could mean he can't troll anyone in a scum PT, so slight +town.

this?

[PenguinPower]

Gamma hasn’t been townie. No.

[PenguinPower]

Junko has not been townie either though.

[PenguinPower]

[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13541488]post 776[/url], Gamma Emerald"]I would have self-voted very early this game if my partners were NK15 and Yume ftr[/quote]

Like this?

Why?

[PenguinPower]

Mmmmm…not sure what happened there.

[PenguinPower]

I’m not ready for you to go.

[PenguinPower]

I will try. In the meantime can you vote someone else?

It will give me the strength I need.

[PenguinPower]

I've lost the plot on this game

We’re trying to solve the mystery of nsg’s kidnapper. Keep up.

[PenguinPower]

</3

[PenguinPower]

Oh my fucking god you are beautiful.

VOTE: penguinepower

Memeing is fun while we wait, but stop fucking with the vote count.

Kthx.

[PenguinPower]

Meh.

VOTE: junko

[PenguinPower]

Idk cowfriend….is it?

[PenguinPower]

Should still be at 4 lest I can’t count.

Lol. I’m a viable wagon now. This game is a meme.

[PenguinPower]

wtf is this game

[PenguinPower]

yeah - i'm fine with that

VOTE: nk15

[PenguinPower]

yeah - i'm fine with that

VOTE: nk15

Earlier this was a hard no for you because “gamma hasn’t Towned”

The only real change I see is now you have three votes on you.

So this change seems self-preservational.

N_M catches scum different.

wut?

nk15 was never a hard no for me......

[PenguinPower]

I STILL FOS GAMMA

Gamma hasn’t been townie. No.

Junko has not been townie either though.

Nowhere did I mention anything about nk15 and I said the readlist enchant post was not good in part because it had Nk15 as town/do not yeet....

[PenguinPower]

I can't see at all how you extrapolated "hard no" from that.

[PenguinPower]

Maybe if you quoted my next post instead of selectively editing the ISO.....

Also Penguin you’re kinda being gullible here if every time Junko self-vote like that you get baited into unvoting

I want to give some people time to weigh in and N_M isn't on wagon.

My vote is still there in spirit.

[PenguinPower]

Maybe if you quoted my next post instead of selectively editing the ISO.....

Also Penguin you’re kinda being gullible here if every time Junko self-vote like that you get baited into unvoting

I want to give some people time to weigh in and N_M isn't on wagon.

My vote is still there in spirit.

Being angry at Junko, then, makes no sense as town scumreading her.
You are scum.

Where was I angry? Oh, you keep making shit up, got it.

[PenguinPower]

how is that angry?

i ask again...are you a robot?

[PenguinPower]

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That sort of implies he has a level of confidence in his reads that I would find.... difficult to believe on a d1 read

You don't seem to know me, then.

ahem...you obviously don't seem to know me, then.

[PenguinPower]

I don't scumread Penguin but this wagon is hilarious

Glad you had fun…truly. Day is ending so maybe vote who you do.

[PenguinPower]

scrrrrdbear are you alisae?

penguin why are you guys voting nk15 again?

I lost track

I mean - iso me?

They are making patently false statements.

[PenguinPower]

Ofc that’s me. You can ask the others why they are. I don’t speak for them.

[PenguinPower]

Why?

Because your “vaguely resembles frenimies” is actual bullshit so I’d like an actual stance.

[PenguinPower]

Plus your trajectory is gross yadda yadda.

I want you on record here.

[PenguinPower]

Partner equity ++

[PenguinPower]

Did…did you read what you linked?

[PenguinPower]

Why?

Because your “vaguely resembles frenimies” is actual bullshit so I’d like an actual stance.

I don’t really have a defined opinion on your play this game, I felt similar in Frenemies where you flipped scum
You feel very sideline-y

I don’t know how you can genuinely think I’m “sideliney” here.

That feels like a bullshit buzzword from you.

[PenguinPower]

with my love

[PenguinPower]

Did…did you read what you linked?

Did you?
Read those fucking scum games and tell me I’m wrong about NK15’s scum meta. Two games I modded where he was a wet towel, a game where he self-professed to being shitty as scum and did nothing to try and improve the winning odds of his partners and instead played dead fish, and a hidden alt game where he straight-up thought “hey you know what would be a good move? Turbo-bussing my entire team while telling NONE OF THEM any of my plans!”
That is a man who has no self-respect and no respect for others when he rolls scum. Honestly he’s a fucking burden as both alignments as evidenced by the everything upick but he at least was motivated in that game!

Looking at posts and content. Yeah…you linked scum games that related to here (except for, ya know, the 4 post game you chose…partner ++)

[PenguinPower]

Can’t read the scum PT now so I don’t see how that’s relatable.

[PenguinPower]

Maybe don’t personally insult people…since that’s a site rule and stuff.

I don’t see how reading previous scum PTs matters when I can’t see it now and don’t think you’re town.

[PenguinPower]

+ everything else I mentioned a page ago.

[PenguinPower]

Really would prefer nk15 at this point bearfriend.

[PenguinPower]

It at least has the letter “n” in the username!

[PenguinPower]

Gamma I don't understand how you're villainizing Penguin but also saying he's sidelining

I mean I think he's been a pretty big driving force at least recently especially compared to like half the game

I had noted to myself he felt withdrawn earlier and didn’t bring up until now

This is explicitly not what you said. You were speaking in the present and you won’t talk your way out of that.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: nk15

Ok ok

Mmmmm

[PenguinPower]

You aren’t even flipping….

[PenguinPower]

She’s past prod so I’m not sure how thats your determination.

[PenguinPower]

Would also love to hear your rationale on NK15 being town here.

[PenguinPower]

So you’re just capitulating prior to d1 ending?

[PenguinPower]

NK15 was already hammered by porkens.

[PenguinPower]

She’s past prod so I’m not sure how thats your determination.

That's...how waiting out an elim works.

Would also love to hear your rationale on NK15 being town here.

Why? What makes you think my case is worth listening to when you dismissed Gamma's fairly extensive case?

1.) Because a continued absence last prod is not indicative of waiting something out rather than…just being gone from the site?

2.) I don’t scum read you like I do Gamma whose case as presented was nothing.

[PenguinPower]

NK15 was already hammered by porkens.

Why did you ask for my town case then?

Also if that was hammer then Porkens needs to come under heavy suspicion tomorrow for hammering without a claim.

Because….I still want to hear your opinion? Seems fairly clear.

[PenguinPower]

I think I am a little bit more accurate than average

but mostly because I generally don't meme vote

So anyway, Roden is mafia.

VOTE: Roden

Dare I even ask…why?

[PenguinPower]

I’m mean I have an assumption as well and I disagree, but I don’t know for sure and that’s why I asked.

[PenguinPower]

I’m just like 50/50 on whether Enchant actually answers.

[PenguinPower]

Are you going to?

[PenguinPower]

Are you going to?

[PenguinPower]

Then I’m going with my assumption and that’s bad reasoning so you should probably look elsewhere.

[PenguinPower]

Yes

[PenguinPower]

I encourage you to look at what bearfriend flipped.

[PenguinPower]

Learn to make an inference as to what that could possibly mean.

[PenguinPower]

mafia killed himmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

What PR was bearfriend?

[PenguinPower]

Roleblocker, which also fits Doctor slot.

And?

Great. Great.

Now what was Bearfriend’s alignment?

[PenguinPower]

Good good.

So, what information does that mean scum had when choosing the night kill?

[PenguinPower]

Scum would have known they did not have that row so that there was quite possibly a doctor in play. They would also have known that Roden wasn’t scum (if Roden isn’t scum) and was 99.9% a PR so would have been the optimal protect.

Just because Roden is alive doesn’t mean Roden is scum.

[PenguinPower]

You could use NORTH or like SIDE. Or GAL.

But NSG is most counterintuitive.

It’s been nsg since before you joined the site.

Embrace it.

[PenguinPower]

Excuse me my scumhunting lead to yesterdays elim, so don’t say I’m not scumhunting.

It..i...but...yesterday's elim was town?

I don’t feel NSG scum here because nsg is just better than this as either alignment so their shit playing is NAI for me.

Why...nsg hasn't done shit all this game, and that actually is suspect after replying to make sure she stays in.

[PenguinPower]

that makes me happy

[PenguinPower]

lol

What terrible play of town. Really extraordinarily bad reads.

like - I get it, but being like "oh bad reads" because they voted you is..."bad"

[PenguinPower]

FUCK THE HAMMER THE HAMMER IS NULL I HAVE ANSWERED ALL WUESTIONS THAT EVEN TEMOTELY MATTER IM DO E WITH THIS GOOD NIGHT

This doesn't at all read like town flailing imo. Overall the response to pressure by Porkens was atrocious and clearly forced so ima park my vote there.

You just wrong and your read is bad. Learn from this.

Ok I’m done.

I’m a vigilante. If you decide to eliminate me, that’s fine. This town deserves to lose like no town I’ve seen before. I’d like to use my shot though so I will allow the town to leash me tonight if desired.

uh...which one since you decided to claim?

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porkens big overreaction to like 2 votes but I don't necessarily think that's Scummy

seems probably bad to claim vig as scum?

shhh - let him answer

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Is the vig in this setup ungated?

No, but there is a 1-shot and an N3.

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Naw there is a conspiracy to railroad me I can feel it. Scum decided to go he’s on me this day.

1 shot

mmm - why'd you holster last night? i feel like there were several viable options.

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paranoid gun owner - if a pr (or scum) targets them, the targeter dies.

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probably

scum chose multitasking so they probably went with active roles rather than passive though

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VOTE: nsg

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fair enough

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....buying what? you aren't being very clear about what is suspect.

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....buying what? you aren't being very clear about what is suspect.

I'm not buying this game

I'll rent it

yeah.. I give up

I'll come back each day to post a tiktok and leave

gg

ok...sure...don't answer the question and give up?

like wtf

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let's just yeet nsg and porkens can kill someone with less posts than the mod.

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I don't buy Porkens' claim. 10th place in the draft wouldn't be able to get a PR that's as coveted as a Vig shot.

VOTE: Porkens

I mean - it's self-resolving. Scum doesn't have a roleblocker.

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I don't buy Porkens' claim. 10th place in the draft wouldn't be able to get a PR that's as coveted as a Vig shot.

VOTE: Porkens

I mean - it's self-resolving. Scum doesn't have a roleblocker.

Unfortunately we can't really guarantee that because of the Universal Backup. Unless it's alignment locked I guess, might need that confirmed. But a scum JK can also exist.

mmm - fair enough since it's not alignment locked

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wait - no - it is alignment locked

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no - i was correct originally - this setup does not use the normal version of the role

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You're not even claiming who you plan to shoot, which should've been the first thing you did after claiming since town should be using the threat of a Vig shot to pressure their scum reads and avoid hitting town PRs.

so I will allow the town to leash me tonight if desired.

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I wouldn’t be mad either, but I would prefer a tighter leash.

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Why isn’t porkens in your list though?

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That came across as a read list not a “shoot here list”

So, why isn’t porkens there?

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Why do you have NM outside the shoot range?

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I wanna yeet nsg and shoot in {yume/junko/nm}

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I’ve never played with scum!kitty but town!kitty is always scummy.

Happy to add him in the list, but I don’t have a reason to.

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We all just going to keep claiming?

[PenguinPower]

yume, roden, nsg, N_M, johnny, kitty, porkens

yume is a low-info lurker who can be yeeted
roden is town
nsg is scum
n_m, is a low-info lurker who can be yeeted...doesn't feel like he has in any of the games i've played with him since my return so i don't know what that means
johnny is lower confidence town than roden but town nonetheless
kitty is scummy - what this means for his alignment i don't know
porkens claim seems unlikely given his draft positioning but it should be self resolving so i don't want to yeet there today especially if he shoots yume/n_m

why don't you care about my thoughts on any of the other players?

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Open 855, 860, and 862 I believe

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Hey Roden if you was PRESUMING ascetic cop

Who you would target n1

I'll answer this in a bit, I want to give the game state some time to develop first.

How long are you going to wait?

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yeah - i wanna yeet the star

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Well if she’s going to be as worthwhile to the conversation as a sack of potatoes, then there’s really not much else to do than just kill her off

correct - which is why she is a vig candidate

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I'll see the light as you make your way out the door

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the general contentment with how things are right now gives me the creeps

who is content with the way things are?

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and porkens/dann are pushing for an nsg vote

where is porkens pushing for nsg?

[PenguinPower]

gamma wants people to answer questions and then not do anything with is

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VOTE: star power why do I even try

idk

tysm

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kitty or nm is probably correct as neither is likely to get more readable at this point in the game

why no yume?

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spoiler alert, porkens is going to shoot me

mmm...if he shoots someone other than the leashed target he dies

that's why we're leashing.

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i would prefer yume or nm tbh. neither slot is going to be readable and I don't want to waste a yeet on them

[PenguinPower]

Star seems pretty townie so far

How so?

[PenguinPower]

Thanks for your help. Yume, since my predecessor is currently voting you and nothing in your ISO stood out to me as particularly townie, can you give me some reads?

Well, sure. *clears throat* In a land far, far away, a farm boy fell in love with a goldfish that lived in the pond next to his house. This goldfish had a secret of her own, however. At night, she could turn into a human, but at noon, she would turn back into a goldfish. So the two spent the time they could spend together in each other's company. But then a sorceress came and told them she would lift the curse, but in exchange, they would have to give their third-born to her. Well, they fulfilled their end of the bargain, and she promptly cooked and ate the child while they watched.

Are we sure that somehow jester isn't a possible role in this setup?

This is in my limpool now, jokes aside.

Star seems pretty townie so far

How so?

Getting a solvy vibe from their posts.

I guess we’ll keep doing this…

Can you point to what gave you a “solvy vibe” from what they have posted?

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I feel so good about this junko/rodan/porkens townnlock I’m going to do a reads list

can't wait to see it

[PenguinPower]

It’s a work in progress but:

VigPig
PenguinPower
Junkochan
Rodan
Dann

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NM
Enchant

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green but like slimy green
Johnny
Freddy
New kitty

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Star/NSG

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PenguinPower
Dann
Kitty?
Yume?

I was wrong...I could have waited to see it...

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star power has done nothing redeeming so yeah...let's just yeet and move on

[PenguinPower]

yume is the vig shot for tonight

[PenguinPower]

That makes….no sense.

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Urge to yeet porkens is rising.

[PenguinPower]

Considering how this day has gone….no.

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Alright, Yume voters. Either get off that wagon because you think porkens will vig there or vote porkens.

Vanity voters actually do something worthwhile.

2 days left. Consolidate pls.

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Jesus….when have I ever had to be the driver.

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Is that E-1?

Can’t y’all put anyone to E-1?

Is anyone at E-1?

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How much trouble would I be in if I shot kitten around instead of yume?

a yeet's worth of trouble

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can we pls just yeet star and shoot yume?

like - that's where we are going to end up at eod so I don't know why we're waiting around

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@mod: v/la until Tuesday