Open 867: PYP: SEFD - Day Three

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VOTE: DANNFLOR

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BASED OFF THE DRAFT I'D SAY ONE OR BOTH OF GAMMA/DANNFLOR + PENGUIN/JOHNNY/KITTY ARE SCUM. IF THIS DRAFT SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUN BEFORE I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT NUMBERS WERE CHOSEN BY SCUM IN THE PAST.

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BASED OFF THE DRAFT I'D SAY ONE

OR BOTH

OF GAMMA/DANNFLOR + PENGUIN/JOHNNY/KITTY ARE SCUM. IF THIS DRAFT SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUN BEFORE I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT NUMBERS WERE CHOSEN BY SCUM IN THE PAST.

Wait what

Where you get this idea from, why scum would pick same number as teammates

TO MISLEAD

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I picked 1 because I thought everyone else would second guess their way out of it.

I played in a pyp a looooong time ago and the town used some big brain method to determine scum based on numbers. It was slightly different as we drafted two numbers. One of you big brains can probably figure it out although it may have required some pregaming. All I know is I felt like town had esp and got me dead just based on the number I picked.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7&start=50

THANK YOU

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And why do you not think it’s within JC/NM, or the FIVE people that picked 1?

And it better be a good reason because I can already think of one, and it’s not a great look for you Sir Bear

IDRC ABOUT THE 1 CHOICES, I RULED THAT NUMBER OUT RIGHT AWAY.

THE SHADE IN #38 IS MORE INDICATIVE OF SCUM.

VOTE: Gamma

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BASED OFF THE DRAFT I'D SAY ONE OR BOTH OF GAMMA/DANNFLOR + PENGUIN/JOHNNY/KITTY ARE SCUM. IF THIS DRAFT SYSTEM HAS BEEN RUN BEFORE I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT NUMBERS WERE CHOSEN BY SCUM IN THE PAST.

It has been run before multiple times, and I’ll think you’ll find why I chose the number I did is obvious.

IT SEEMS A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE BUT YEAH I GET IT I THINK.

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scrrdbear why did you have some assumptions about where scum might be if you haven't already looked at past runs of the setup?

THAT'S HOW I ROLL

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so I'm a bit confused, how many people can have powers in this game?

why was this confusing to you?

because im not sure if there can potentially be 1 of each of the power roles listed, let alone the pair part I'm counting them as 8 possible roles

or not.

because of theis scenario:

if I picked doctor and still became a townie, i know someone in the roster has doctor but they picked it before me, meaning I can pin point from my pov who might be a doctor and lean to believe them

does this make sense to you?

YEAH IT DOES, THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT SCUM MIGHT CHOOSE 2/2 TOGETHER, TO FISH OUT THE EARLY TPR CHOICES AND PLEAD WIFOM FOR IT LATER. I WOULD SUGGEST THIS STRAT WITH TWO 2 CHOICES IF I WERE SCUM AND HAVE THE THIRD PLAYER GO FOR A NUMBER LIKE 5 OR 6.

And why do you not think it’s within JC/NM, or the FIVE people that picked 1?

And it better be a good reason because I can already think of one, and it’s not a great look for you Sir Bear

IDRC ABOUT THE 1 CHOICES, I RULED THAT NUMBER OUT RIGHT AWAY.

THE SHADE IN #38 IS MORE INDICATIVE OF SCUM.

VOTE: Gamma

So, despite the statistical evidence supporting there being multiple scum in the 1s, you have somehow "ruled them out" already. Yeah that's bogus.
VOTE: SCRRRDBEAR

THIS IS A REAL SCUMMY OMGUS. I THINK GAMMA DID ROLL SCUM THIS GAME 4REAL.

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GETTING GOOD VIBES FROM PORKENS (I THINK.)

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Hi

I KIND OF WANT TO TOWN LEAN THIS HAHA

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I'D SAY PORKENS, ENCHANT AND JUNKO ARE TOWN. PENGUIN IS NULL CLOSER TO TOWN, DANNFLOR IS NULL CLOSER TO SCUM. GAMMA IS SCUM.

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I'D SAY PORKENS, ENCHANT AND JUNKO ARE TOWN. PENGUIN IS NULL CLOSER TO TOWN, DANNFLOR IS NULL CLOSER TO SCUM. GAMMA IS SCUM.

What's the reason for Junko town?

THEY JUST SEEM GENUINE BY TONE, THEY SEEM EARNEST.

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I GOT PRODDED. I STILL WANT GAMMA D1. I'M WILLING TO CONSIDER NSG'S TELL ON JUNKO FOR D2.

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I STILL WANT GAMMA D1

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386 COULD BE SCUMMY? I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO READ JOHNNY? I'M DOWN TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT JOHNNY AND JUNKO AFTER GAMMA GETS FLIPPED.

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Yeah gamma is scummy.

Still not seeing it.

actually I take it back I think if gamma flips scum then I want to kill this more than anything

I think Porkens is playing a little too awkwardly for a buddy

and I'm doing bad bad pre-flip associative stuff right now I need to reset

Gamma did townier after the emotional posting wore off

GAMMA LOOKS LIKE THAT AS SCUM THOUGH

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386 COULD BE SCUMMY? I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO READ JOHNNY? I'M DOWN TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT JOHNNY AND JUNKO AFTER GAMMA GETS FLIPPED.

any particular reason for gamma over junko today? you were saying a lot early in the game and i kinda expected that energy to continue but i feel like you've been a lot quieter, have you caught up fully or mostly just been skimming?

JUST SKIMMING. I CONSIDER EVERYTHING ELSE TO BE MINOR COMPARED TO GAMMA'S SCUM TELL EARLY ON. I CAN SEE IT ARGUED THAT JUNKO IS TOWN OR SCUM. I'M WILLING TO CONSIDER VOTING THEM MORE ON D2.

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can someone not even case but just give me like the bulletpoints on dann scum, i'm waiting on a lot of content from him but don't really feel as though that warrants a vote yet

78 and 79 paint dann as this like, "I've got my shit together" kinda guy when it comes to setups and approaching townreads and scumreads, but then his approach to Porkens, nk15, and his general attitude toward power role discussion makes him look.... inconsistent. Like he's discussing things as they come up but doesn't have a core thread of scumhunting, or even truly critical thinking, underneath.

So I guess basically he looks like he's coasting? Add to that the complete lack of actual scummy behavior that I can see from Gamma or Porkin', and you land at my current belief which is that Dann is scum and completely satisfied with the current gamestate.

JOHNNY MIGHT BE OKAY, ACTUALLY.

why did you think that you were my "secret scumread"? i feel like you're the type of player who feels like he's obviously playing his towngame when town (like me), but that impression could be wildly off. what's your evaluation of your play this game?

it is just not uncommon for people to say that and then have it be about me

and RC forever associating my name with deepwolf for a meme has made me somewhat sensitive to that sort of thing

was your secret scum read junko or did you just do that as a reaction test thing

I think I've been generally towny but I wouldn't say I'm out of my scum range yet

that being said I think only two of the votes on me are relatively towny votes

557 COULD BE SCUMMY BECAUSE OF THE ATE "SENSITIVE" ANGLE THING.

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You wanna back these claims up

NO I WANT YOU TO BE FLIPPED

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BEAR I think you're stuck on like a page 5 read

I HAVE A GOOD READ ON GAMMA

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SHOULDN'T GAMMA AND DANNFLOR BE VOTING EACH OTHER IF THEY AREN'T SvS?

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Dannflor [4]: Roden, JohnnyFarrar, PenguinPower, KittyTacky
Gamma Emerald [3]: SCRRRDBEAR, Yume, Not Known 15
Junkochan [3]: Enchant, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal
Not_Mafia [2]: Not_Mafia, Porkens
Porkens [1]: JunkoChan
KittyTacky [1]: Dannflor

IT JUST LOOKS LIKE DANNFLOR AND GAMMA ARE S V S AND JUNKO IS SOME AWKWARD TOWNIE THEY ARE TRYING TO GET MISLIMMED. I THINK IT'X SUS DANNFLOR AND GAMMA AREN'T VOTING EACH OTHER.

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I feel like the scummiest stuff from gamma could very easily come from him as either alignment

and the fact that he got into game solving mode rather than sticking with the bear vs. gamma dynamic for the AtE is very unlike scum!gamma

TBH THIS POST MAKES AS MUCH SENSE TO ME AS IF YOU SMASHED YOUR FACE INTO THE KEYBOARD AND USED AUTO CORRECT TO FORM RANDOM WORDS FROM THE GIBBERISH

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GAMMA CAN'T VOTE ME BECAUSE HE NEEDS THE JUNKO WAGON ALIVE BECAUSE IT'S HIS BEST CHANCE TO SAVE SCUM BUDDY DANNFLOR WITHOUT SACRIFICING HIMSELF

then you're REALLY gonna have a field day with the wall I'm typing up

WHY?

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I don't know how this post comes from town.

PORKENS IS PROBABLY TOWN

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because part of it is a gamma town case

this seems very... level 0, BEAR

ARE YOU CHAINSAWING ME TO SAVE GAMMA?

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why?

I JUST PLAYED AGAINST THEIR SCUM GAME AND I THINK THEY ARE TOWN NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTING DIFFERENT

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13538684

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Junko why is porkens scum

I don't really recall you ever elucidating reasons for that read

she just is

if you iso her and you find 1 town post I'll change my mind

I think drilling down on this one point about semantics is distracting from the first three points to which NSG has not responded. Those are the meat of the argument.

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because i feel a lot better about the two competing wagons to dann and that makes me somewhat suspicious of it

386 COULD BE SCUMMY? I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO READ JOHNNY? I'M DOWN TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT JOHNNY AND JUNKO AFTER GAMMA GETS FLIPPED.

any particular reason for gamma over junko today? you were saying a lot early in the game and i kinda expected that energy to continue but i feel like you've been a lot quieter, have you caught up fully or mostly just been skimming?

fencing.

I messed up the format on my previous post

WHY FENCING INSTEAD OF INDECISIVE TOWNIE?

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why?

I JUST PLAYED AGAINST THEIR SCUM GAME AND I THINK THEY ARE TOWN NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTING DIFFERENT

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13538684

rofl how is it different? if anything is the same, vague, short and generally meaningless posts

I DON'T THINK SO

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why?

I JUST PLAYED AGAINST THEIR SCUM GAME AND I THINK THEY ARE TOWN NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTING DIFFERENT

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13538684

rofl how is it different? if anything is the same, vague, short and generally meaningless posts

I DON'T THINK SO

well, you are wrong

UNLIKELY. LOOK AT THEIR ACTIVITY LEVELS AND THE CONVICTION THEY ARE SHOWING IN THEIR NK15 PUSH IN THIS GAME.

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I town read nk15

ME TOO. PORKENS AND NK15 LOOK TVT.

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most likely gamma porkens NSG

likely penguin katty jhonny

less likely dannfloor yume roden

I'M FEELING GAMMA FOR SCUM, DEFINITELY. I THINK I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON KITTY, TOO, I THINK THEY ARE TRUSTWORTHY (THOUGH I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY ACT LIKE THEY KNOW ME.) I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO READ NSG OR JOHNNY.

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JOHNNY MIGHT BE OKAY, ACTUALLY.

can you explain this now

IT LOOKED LIKE EFFORT (FOR JOHNNY) AND I GOT EXCITED. I'M NOT GOOD AT READING JOHNNY.

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is he traditionally no effort, I've never played with him

YEAH

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KittyTacky if you think Gamma is being so weird why aren't you voting there

or voting anywhere for that matter

1. Because I'm not sure if it's scummy.
2. Good question, doing a reread RN to determine a good vote.

HAS KITTY EVER WRITTEN A POST LIKE THIS AS SCUM?

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KITTY, TOO, I THINK THEY ARE TRUSTWORTHY

why

KittyTacky if you think Gamma is being so weird why aren't you voting there

or voting anywhere for that matter

1. Because I'm not sure if it's scummy.
2. Good question, doing a reread RN to determine a good vote.

HAS KITTY EVER WRITTEN A POST LIKE THIS AS SCUM?

I THINK KITTY ISO IS PRETTY TOWN

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KittyTacky's vote on me is one of the bad ones. I admit I have trouble reading this slot because he's seemingly the scummiest slot in the game every single game he is in. I think the defense of me by saying Roden was engaging with me in bad faith into voting me over... what? is a very ?????? progression. popping in to say "I stand by my reads" is awful after having explained like 0 reads.

I don't know this slot frustrates me and I'd happily wagon it. like I don't know what else to say about this slot other than it's scummy. I don't really know how to pull more reads out of KittyTacky that will help me town read them other than just wait and hope they start having some believable progressions. I guess the vote on Porkens was like fine. but other than that I just have a hard time believing the words typed by this cat.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS AI

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also I'm trying to answer everything I can right now, cuz I'll be busy until tuesday night.

I have like an hour or so more

so if you got anything else to ask about 598 or 608 ask now or wait til then

CAN YOU GO THROUGH YOUR TOWN READS REAL NICE AND SLOW?

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I don't feel like I have to make a case for any of those tbh, they are not even being voted

NOT MAFIA TOWNREAD?

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KITTY, TOO, I THINK THEY ARE TRUSTWORTHY

I have a guess as to who you are

Any hints? Cos Sir Bear is giving me nothing

FEEL FREE TO SHRRR YOUR THRRRY JOHNNY

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I CAN'T REALLY TELL IF JUNKO IS A SILLY TOWNIE OR SCUM.

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Junko constantly self-voting and deploying is AtE is uh not great. Feels more scum manipulative than town manipulative since I don't think the frustration seems natural from a townie perspective. I'm fine voting there unless people want to wait before we the end the day.

I DON'T THINK SO. FIRST SCUM TELL FOR RODEN IMO.

I’m leaning townchan.

you KNOW I'm town lol

I DON'T THINK SCUM ARE LIKELY TO ISOLATE THEMSELVES THIS WAY

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@Roden

what are your thoughts on the current gamestate

Initial thoughts were that it feels stale, but votes have actually been moving around a lot and I think there's been a fair bit of aggression in trying to get certain players eliminated. I think the wagons getting pushed are town lead for the most part.

SCUM POST

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HAS GAMMA REALLY BEEN TOWNIE OR ARE YOU DEFENDERS BEING SAPPY?

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I've pointed out the post I liked from Roden like 5 times y'all

LET ME SEE

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2) made an honest and frankly brilliant observation about NM that I'm still appreciating several days later.

what was this, may I ask?

NM making exactly one post and then fucking off means he probably isn't having fun. Which could mean he can't troll anyone in a scum PT, so slight +town.

I THINK THESE KINDS OF OBSERVATIONS ARE EASIER TO MAKE AS TOWN THAN AS MAFIA, FOR A REASON YOU YOURSELF BROUGHT UP LATER:

In your experience do scum have trouble townreading people? This seems like a silly question/ layup if you actually think I'm scum. Scum Johnny would have 8 townreads right now, just cuz I would know I'm right.

THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T WANT TO TALK YOU OUT OF YOUR TOWNREAD ON RODEN, BECAUSE YOU COULD BE ON THE RIGHT TRACK FOR ALL I KNOW. FWIW I GUESS RODEN IS KIND OF PLAYING IN THEIR TOWN RANGE.

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NOT MAFIA

CAN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT JOHNNY'S ISO AND TELL US IF YOU SEE ANYTHING AI IN EITHER DIRECTION? I SAW A QUOTE ONCE WHERE YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE
"IN MY HEART, JOHNNY WILL ALWAYS BE SCUM" SO I THINK YOU MIGHT BE MORE FAMILIAR WITH HIS SCUM GAME THAN ANYONE ELSE HERE.

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And why do you not think it’s within JC/NM, or the FIVE people that picked 1?

And it better be a good reason because I can already think of one, and it’s not a great look for you Sir Bear

IDRC ABOUT THE 1 CHOICES, I RULED THAT NUMBER OUT RIGHT AWAY.

THE SHADE IN #38 IS MORE INDICATIVE OF SCUM.

VOTE: Gamma

So, despite the statistical evidence supporting there being multiple scum in the 1s, you have somehow "ruled them out" already. Yeah that's bogus.
VOTE: SCRRRDBEAR

Clearly critical thinking is something Sir Bear is lacking in rn

Gamma just pushed Bear with a vote for the above. Yet, only a few posts later, Gamma attributes what Bear says with "a lack of critical thinking" instead.

Nah.

VOTE: PenguinPower
If you insist...

BUS VOTE MAYBE?

I'M PRETTY SURE GAMMA IS A SCUM FLIP BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND ANY SCUM IN THE ACTIVE POSTERS UNLESS JUNKO HAS ME BAMBOOZLED.

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BUS VOTE MAYBE?

I'M PRETTY SURE GAMMA IS A SCUM FLIP BECAUSE I'M STRUGGLING TO FIND ANY SCUM IN THE ACTIVE POSTERS UNLESS JUNKO HAS ME BAMBOOZLED.

SORRY, I MEANT THAT NK'S PUSH ON GAMMA WAS BUS/DISTANCING, AND THEN THE FIGHT WITH PENGUIN WAS THE TRANSITION OFF OF GAMMA, BUT WHO KNOWS.

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fight with penguin was very bad vibes

WHY?

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Post 85: Votes for SCRRRDBEAR due to "ruling them out is bogus"
Post 91: Bear lacks critical thinking
If Gamma'd think that Bear lacks critical thinking then where's that scumread coming from? Opportunism, from scum.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

BUS VOTE

Nah.

VOTE: PenguinPower
If you insist...

HOP OFF THE WAGON ONTO TOWNIE

I am pretty disconnected with this game right now. I can't get much. Sure, Junko is probably not town, and Gamma is probably not town, and NSG and Penguin might not be town...
but I don't feel

sure

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SCUM BURN OUT

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VOTE: NK15

I STILL FOS GAMMA

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Stealth hi bye
I got the role I wanted

MAFIA GOON?

FOS YUME TOO I GUESS FOR PRETTY MUCH THE SAME REASON AS NK15 LOL:

VOTE: Gamma

Seriously, go fuck yourself

Why, thank you for complimenting my relationship!

It’s not really a reaction to your vote, but I think out of all the people to vote just to stay in the game, I’m one of the lousiest you could have chosen
Either you made a bad vote without knowing, which is a sign that you’re not paying proper attention, or you knew the stakes that were in play, which is actively suspicious

Are you going to actually engage this Yume
I’m gonna be clear: if you get me voted out because you parked a vote on me for no reason than to “stay in the game” there’s gonna be some major beef

Well, I too have a beef with someone who isn't you, so... *shrugs*

how does that affect this game???

As I said, I am beyond caring about anything at this point.

could you at least make it not a burden on me?

Well, considering how you and some others usually treat me, I don't think so.

DISTANCING

VOTE: Junko

HOP OFF ONTO TOWNIE

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I think NK15 is town
His reads seem shite in a way that tends to come from town!him
Plus he tends to just not give any fucks about his scumplay from my exp

OKAY THANKS VOTE: GAMMA

FOS YUME

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I think NK15 is town
His reads seem shite in a way that tends to come from town!him
Plus he tends to just not give any fucks about his scumplay from my exp

OKAY THANKS VOTE: GAMMA

FOS YUME

I MEAN I GUESS I STILL FOS GAMMA/NK/YUME

I THINK I FOUND A COUPLE DECENT LEADS

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I'M KIND OF LEANING GAMMA/YUME/? RIGHT NOW BUT I'D VOTE NK15 OVER JUNKO

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I think NK15 is town
His reads seem shite in a way that tends to come from town!him
Plus he tends to just not give any fucks about his scumplay from my exp

I would have self-voted very early this game if my partners were NK15 and Yume ftr

WHY DO YOU JUMP TO NK15 DEFENSE AND IGNORE YUME WHEN I POSTED DETAILS OF HOW BOTH ARE DISTANCING FROM YOU?

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Pretty sure Gamma is too burnt out as scum from Lost to put in this much effort but I don't think I can really convince anyone of that

Porkens and Bear chainsawing me is interesting

WHO AM I CHAINSAWING YOU FOR, AGAIN?

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"why me"

VOTE: Dann

HAHAHAHAHA

I'M YOUR DEFENSE LAWYER NOW, DANNFLOR, HOW SAFE DO YOU FEEL?

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FIRE MEANS NO JOB TOMORROW, SO ALWAYS REMEMBER SAFETY FIRST!

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RODEN WHY IS MY INTUITION TELLING ME TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT YOUR ISO? IS IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T USUALLY ACCUSE PLAYERS OF CHAINSAWING D1 WHEN YOU'RE TOWN?

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RODEN WHY IS MY INTUITION TELLING ME TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT YOUR ISO? IS IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T USUALLY ACCUSE PLAYERS OF CHAINSAWING D1 WHEN YOU'RE TOWN?

BECAUSE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR EARLY READS IS NOT TOWN AI FOR YOU AT ALL. SO SAYING THAT I'M CHAINSAWING YOU PINGS ME QUITE A BIT.

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600, RODEN?

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VOTE: RODEN

DOESN'T SEEM LIKE TOWN RANGE

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I'M GRATEFUL I STOPPED SLACKING IN THIS GAME

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Doesn't really answer anything, so I guess you're admitting you lied about your meta read?

I DIDN'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS

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Bear it's kind of annoying that you're trying to meta read me here while hiding behind an alt, because you're kinda just wrong here. But I don't know if you're wrong because you didn't play in those games where I have had confidence in my early reads or if you're just lying.

There's a pretty implicit question here.

IT'S NOT REALLY AMBIGUOUS, YOU ARE PLAYING IN YOUR SCUM META AND YOU KNOW IT. MY IDENTITY IS IRRELEVANT. I'M NOT OFFENDED THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACT COY OR WHATEVER BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS IN THIS SITUATION. YOUR ISO LOOKS TERRIBLE ANYWAY EVEN WITHOUT CRUTCHING META. THE ONLY REASON YOU AREN'T GETTING WAGONED YET IS BECAUSE YOU WERE TOP OF THE DRAFT, BUT I THINK THAT'S A BAD REASON NOT TO VOTE YOU BECAUSE THAT ALSO MEANS YOU HAVE A PR ROLE FOR THE SCUM TEAM.

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Here's a game where I had confident early reads as town: CultD3

Here's another: Mini 2276

A game where I explicitly comment about how I'm too often too confident in my reads before then making confident early reads: GnG Upick

I explicitly avoided linking games where I just tunneled because I don't think that's the same as me having a confident read, but these games are recent enough to be relevant for my meta. Either way Bear I think you're just full of shit here.

I'M READING

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Here's a game where I had confident early reads as town: CultD3

Here's another: Mini 2276

A game where I explicitly comment about how I'm too often too confident in my reads before then making confident early reads: GnG Upick

I explicitly avoided linking games where I just tunneled because I don't think that's the same as me having a confident read, but these games are recent enough to be relevant for my meta. Either way Bear I think you're just full of shit here.

MY FIRST THOUGHT IS THAT YOU PLAY A BUNCH OF WEIRD THEME GAMES (WHERE THE THEME MAY ALTER YOUR PLAYSTYLE) AND YOU CHERRY PICKED THREE GAMES TO "DISPROVE" ME.

I LOOKED AT THE OTHER UPICK GAME AND I DON'T SEE A LOT OF SIMILARITY IN YOUR D1 PLAY.

I WILL GET SOME SLEEP AND LOOK MORE AT THE FIRST TWO LINKS THOUGH.

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Why are you shouting?

I'M SCARED

Why are you shouting?

This is gimmick on gimmick violence

LOL. RODEN MAY BE TOWN AFTER ALL.

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WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT FOR PENGUIN?

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I don't scumread Penguin but this wagon is hilarious

WHY?

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I don't scumread Penguin but this wagon is hilarious

YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT JOHNNY'S SCUM GAME.

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less than 48 hours people, compromise time

Tell us who you're realistically gonna vote for or enjoy a lim free day

GAMMA OR NSG

VOTE: GAMMA

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BAH

VOTE: NSG

I DON'T THINK THIS IS TOWN

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Really would prefer nk15 at this point bearfriend.

I WILL COMP THERE I GUESS

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386 COULD BE SCUMMY? I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO READ JOHNNY? I'M DOWN TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT JOHNNY AND JUNKO AFTER GAMMA GETS FLIPPED.

any particular reason for gamma over junko today? you were saying a lot early in the game and i kinda expected that energy to continue but i feel like you've been a lot quieter, have you caught up fully or mostly just been skimming?

"A QUESTION A DAY KEEPS THE TRACKER AWAY" FOR THE RECORD

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It at least has the letter “n” in the username!

YEAH IT'S LIKE THE SAME VOTE ALMOST

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Here's a game where I had confident early reads as town: CultD3

Here's another: Mini 2276

A game where I explicitly comment about how I'm too often too confident in my reads before then making confident early reads: GnG Upick

I explicitly avoided linking games where I just tunneled because I don't think that's the same as me having a confident read, but these games are recent enough to be relevant for my meta. Either way Bear I think you're just full of shit here.

I DID RECONSIDER ON MY RODEN READ FTR. I HAVE THEM AT NULL NOW.

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VOTE: NK15

I WILL PUSH NSG TOMORROW, THEIR D1 PLAY WAS SCUMMY

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VOTE: NSG

Seems like she's trying to wait out the elim. NK15 feels pretty clearly town.

YES

VOTE: NSG

HIGH TOWN EV MOVE.

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VOTE: nk15

Ok ok

THE TWO TOP DRAFTERS ARE BOTH VOTING NSG. IT'S A SIGN.

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QUICK CHANGE YOUR VOTES TO NSG, MAYBE NO ONE WILL NOTICE.