Mini 2284: The Thing Anonymous [Day 2]

[Clark~]

I've seen the movie a few times, but it's been awhile, so it isn't as fresh in my mind.

VOTE: Childs

[Clark~]

Ah, we're getting serious?

I like Lars' and MacReady's intros, probably for bad reasons. And I think Copper's is slightly more likely to come from a Thing.

I have a confession to make, I have never seen the thing movie. I just wanted to play an anon game.

Me too TBH.
VOTE: Bennings

This? What sticks out to you as Thing-like?

[Clark~]

Ah, we're getting serious?

I like Lars' and MacReady's intros, probably for bad reasons. And I think Copper's is slightly more likely to come from a Thing.

I have a confession to make, I have never seen the thing movie. I just wanted to play an anon game.

Me too TBH.
VOTE: Bennings

This? What sticks out to you as Thing-like?

Yeah, that. It's a vibe. The TBH seems self-conscious, the post itself is short and seems to be made for the sake of making it and fitting in, and the vote on a person that hasn't posted yet vibes like he doesn't want to start ruffling feathers yet.

I see. Something I've noticed recently is that people seem to find "tbh" as scummy, with one reason being that it comes off as soft and half-hearted agreement in order to avoid conflict. At least, that's one reason that's stuck out to me. It's interesting that you see Copper's post as a whole that way, rather than just the "tbh" part.

VOTE: Copper

I'll vote here with you for now.

PE:

Abbreviations are something of a mild verbal (textual?) tic for me.

Understandable, I suppose, I have tics of my own. What do you think of Palmer's vote and reason for voting you? Thoughts on mine are welcome as well.

[Clark~]

1) MacReady is the platonic ideal of a husband.

2) I dislike 28 because I don’t think it says much of anything for calling tbh “interesting”. I don’t get the sense Clark cared much for the question he asked.

VOTE: Clark

I very explicitly did not "call tbh interesting" in that post, not sure how that was your takeaway when I talked about Palmer's case having a basis in the site meta.

[Clark~]

1) MacReady is the platonic ideal of a husband.

2) I dislike 28 because I don’t think it says much of anything for calling tbh “interesting”. I don’t get the sense Clark cared much for the question he asked.

VOTE: Clark

I very explicitly did not "call tbh interesting" in that post, not sure how that was your takeaway when I talked about Palmer's case having a basis in the site meta.

Ah, we're getting serious?

I like Lars' and MacReady's intros, probably for bad reasons. And I think Copper's is slightly more likely to come from a Thing.

I have a confession to make, I have never seen the thing movie. I just wanted to play an anon game.

Me too TBH.
VOTE: Bennings

This? What sticks out to you as Thing-like?

Yeah, that. It's a vibe. The TBH seems self-conscious, the post itself is short and seems to be made for the sake of making it and fitting in, and the vote on a person that hasn't posted yet vibes like he doesn't want to start ruffling feathers yet.

I see. Something I've noticed recently is that people seem to find "tbh" as scummy, with one reason being that it comes off as soft and half-hearted agreement in order to avoid conflict. At least, that's one reason that's stuck out to me.

It's interesting that you see Copper's post as a whole that way, rather than just the "tbh" part.

VOTE: Copper

I'll vote here with you for now.

PE:

Abbreviations are something of a mild verbal (textual?) tic for me.

Understandable, I suppose, I have tics of my own. What do you think of Palmer's vote and reason for voting you? Thoughts on mine are welcome as well.

This is what I am referring to.

You're...bolding the part that says that I find Palmer's case having a link to site meta interesting. I specifically find it interesting that the case

wasn't

just a "tbh" tell.

[Clark~]

Is this a serious wagon or are y'all trying to get an early claim here?

[Clark~]

Do I really need to say that I think complex reads are townie...?

PE: An E-2 wagon on page 3 is usually a meme. I'm baffled that people could misinterpret my post that badly.

[Clark~]

Is this a serious wagon or are y'all trying to get an early claim here?

Translation: "why me dude?"

Typically I'd prefer if people just ask me to clarify my thoughts, some stuff is just going to seem obvious to me.

I'll have thoughts on players when they have content. Sorry but I'm not going to have five reads just like that.

[Clark~]

Don't know why 56 is there but that was in response to 59

[Clark~]

Is this a serious wagon or are y'all trying to get an early claim here?

Translation: "why me dude?"

Typically I'd prefer if people just ask me to clarify my thoughts, some stuff is just going to seem obvious to me.

I'll have thoughts on players when they have content. Sorry but I'm not going to have five reads just like that.

Can you clarify your thoughts on anyone voting you right now?

Maybe in the morning.

[Clark~]

Eh not sure I love Childs' vote either, but like the serious wagon

I do think Gary is somewhat townie

What did You find off about Blair?

Pedit:
@Clark is not like there's not content to talk about

...Which I am talking about. This isn't the gotcha you think it is.

[Clark~]

I'm back with upgraded pronouns, time to read the thread

[Clark~]

End of page 1 I'm liking Windows and Mac

[Clark~]

page 2 Garry seems towny

[Clark~]

I’m going to be frank

Nice to meet you Frank

[Clark~]

Frank!
Ask me some questions so I can go look for answers and get involed

[Clark~]

End of page 1 I'm liking Windows and Mac

If we do everyThing well and lim someThing correctly every day then noThing can stop us. We have to be ready for anyThing but someone seems to be suspiciously ready...

VOTE: MacReady

I haven't seen it either. I heard it's based on the hit game Among Us.

VOTE: Windows

I've not either.
I actually kinda liked Windows' opening post

Window's opening post made me happy and Mac also liked it.

[Clark~]

1) MacReady is the platonic ideal of a husband.

2) I dislike 28 because I don’t think it says much of anything for calling tbh “interesting”. I don’t get the sense Clark cared much for the question he asked.

VOTE: Clark

page 2 Garry seems towny

I thought 2) is more likely to come from town

[Clark~]

Finish reading first, and then circle back to trying to explain your townreads?

I find just reading through quite dry is all. Hence asking for questions. If you want to wait til I've read that's fine

[Clark~]

Getting nothing from page 3

[Clark~]

Page 4 I want to town Child but I'm not there yet. Frank is still town. 96/99 could have been bennings looking for an excuse to vote, has me scum swayed on the slot.

[Clark~]

Page 5 don't like Nauls' intro post. Finishing the Frank/Bennings interaction about their miscommunication I rescind the scum sway on Bennings. I agreee with 122 but couldn't tell you why. I'm liking Blair, I think posts like 115 are more likely to come from town.

[Clark~]

Nauls can have a town bump for 149

[Clark~]

I'm also not convinced a town Blair posts his code so confidently especially with giving the answer to the first code. That to me feels more likely scum trying to appear to be town.

what does this even mean

what does this even mean

[Clark~]

Hey Clark, thanks for joining.
What do you think about the prior focus on your slot?

I think the whole "TBH" debacle is entirely irrelevant and I can see why people wouldn't like 53, 58

[Clark~]

Not much, I almost always get early wagoned day 1 so it's surprisingly business as usual for replacing into a slot

[Clark~]

I've finished reading but mostly just skim read the last few pages coz I got bored
VOTE: Copper

[Clark~]

Not much, I almost always get early wagoned day 1 so it's surprisingly business as usual for replacing into a slot

Well more - do you have any reads on anyone who joined the wagon?

You, Blair, Garry are town in my mind, Child is probs town too. Not got a read on Lars yet.

[Clark~]

Also since then he seems to read me as town so clearly he is town himself.

(For clarity, that's not a reason I read him as town, but nor do I think he's going out of his way to try to pocket me.)

Why did you feel the need to strikethrough and clarify?

[Clark~]

I've finished reading but mostly just skim read the last few pages coz I got bored
VOTE: Copper

can you explain this vote?

Not vibing with them and their reads are different to mine.
I wanted to have a vote somewhere

[Clark~]

I can see "Norris" dying and replacing someone in the roster as his strategy for this behavior, I didn't vote him right after that act because wey had'nt heard from Clark

On the flip side if he's town he's a pretty easy target for scum to assimilate. Alternate between snarky posts and copying other people's posts and no one would know the difference.

On a similar flip side, if he's town and starts solving and not trolling later on someone might case that as having been assimilated

[Clark~]

which read did you disagree with and why does it make them mafia?

Garry and it doesn't. I don't have a strong scum read on anyone yet.

[Clark~]

I can see "Norris" dying and replacing someone in the roster as his strategy for this behavior, I didn't vote him right after that act because wey had'nt heard from Clark

On the flip side if he's town he's a pretty easy target for scum to assimilate. Alternate between snarky posts and copying other people's posts and no one would know the difference.

On a similar flip side, if he's town and starts solving and not trolling later on someone might case that as having been assimilated

this is tea leaf reading type of stuff

It's still antitown behavior to answer like he did to a simple explain your thought process question

oh no, I was just continuing the possibilities. It wasn't a comment on either of the previous posts just thought I'd throw another one in there

[Clark~]

I'll have a quick iso and get back to you

[Clark~]

Clark what do you think about norris overall

Without the trolling I'd put Norris on the town side of Null. With the trolling they drop to the scummier side of null.

[Clark~]

i guarantee if i make a actual good wallpost ill just be suspected anyways.

I'll bet you my vote for today and tomorrow you won't get suspected because of a good wall post if you make one

[Clark~]

Norris are you still scumming Windows and if so how has that developed since you voted there?

[Clark~]

I'm also starting to move Windows down in my reads

[Clark~]

453 is very townie
I'm waiting for the Clark slot to come back, again

You called?

[Clark~]

Decided to ISO Fuchs
I think this is more likely to come from town than scum:

Norris, why does you deciding that I am town mean that I get to decide your vote?

A lot of Fuchs' points are very nuanced which looks to me like trying to solve by thinking deeply about motives rather than the actual actions themselves. Which is what town would want to do instead of scum looking for something bad to jump onto.
To reiterate Fuchs, I don't understand the "why could scum not pretend to be tunnelled" argument. You could say that about literally anything.

Nauls's arguments with Fuchs look like Nauls is actively searching for things to argue about and ways to make Fuchs look bad rather than reading something and thinking it's bad. Then when the clash didn't go anywhere he just dropped it in 433.

[Clark~]

and is there a reason I should townread you (and therefore not try to lim you today)?

Short of claiming is there any way to answer this question?

[Clark~]

I don't really understand why people are town reading you anymore

[Clark~]

I'm a jailkeeper

[Clark~]

Mac - The vast majority of posts have been about my slot and pushing it as scum. There are a few other reads here and there but honestly not a lot. 311 is like the only post that actually tries to look at analysing someone then it's straight back to pushing me. I think Mac's play has been very safe so far which comes from the set-up. I don't think this sort of play would hold up in a normal game later than day 2 at which point it would be picked at for not being solving. But picking an easy to push slot and just keeping on the pressure day one then assimilating away when it flips town.

Copper - Copper just hasn't really said much all game (not that I'm one to talk to be fair). Some tonal/gut reads at the beginning of the game which is all well and good but they haven't developed into anything. The there was the pointless discussion about fake tunnelling as scum and then pushing the troll slot which I think is town

Spoiler:

Bit of an aside, but theses two posts make me want to consider a Mac/Copper team. Playing both sides of a slot and and trying to get traction of an entirely irrelevant question by a partner.

This might seem sort of off-topic but I'm still curious and would be interested how people answer - are you calling scum 'scum' this game, or 'Thing' ?

"Scum"

I don't think Clark is scum. Off-the-hip gut read.

Fuchs - already talked about

those are my three biggest scum reads. Windows and palmer are floating in the lower half of my reads as well but not to the extent of those three

My strongest townread is still Garry, then probably Childs.

[Clark~]

Clark, are you an ungated Jailkeeper?

As in, can act N1?

Yes, I can act N1

[Clark~]

Mac - The vast majority of posts have been about my slot and pushing it as scum. There are a few other reads here and there but honestly not a lot. 311 is like the only post that actually tries to look at analysing someone then it's straight back to pushing me. I think Mac's play has been very safe so far which comes from the set-up. I don't think this sort of play would hold up in a normal game later than day 2 at which point it would be picked at for not being solving. But picking an easy to push slot and just keeping on the pressure day one then assimilating away when it flips town.

I strongly think your slot is scum, yes. I see no reason to drop the push

That like, isn't an answer to half of my point on you

Fuchs - already talked about

those are my three biggest scum reads. Windows and palmer are floating in the lower half of my reads as well but not to the extent of those three

So, uh...

Did you forget what read you had on me lmao

Decided to ISO Fuchs
I think this is more likely to come from town than scum:

Norris, why does you deciding that I am town mean that I get to decide your vote?

A lot of Fuchs' points are very nuanced which looks to me like trying to solve by thinking deeply about motives rather than the actual actions themselves. Which is what town would want to do instead of scum looking for something bad to jump onto.
To reiterate Fuchs, I don't understand the "why could scum not pretend to be tunnelled" argument. You could say that about literally anything.

Nauls's arguments with Fuchs look like Nauls is actively searching for things to argue about and ways to make Fuchs look bad rather than reading something and thinking it's bad. Then when the clash didn't go anywhere he just dropped it in 433.

Nauls not Fuchs. Everyone looks the same this game.

Not much, I almost always get early wagoned day 1 so it's surprisingly business as usual for replacing into a slot

Well more - do you have any reads on anyone who joined the wagon?

You, Blair, Garry are town in my mind, Child is probs town too. Not got a read on Lars yet.

Mac - The vast majority of posts have been about my slot and pushing it as scum. There are a few other reads here and there but honestly not a lot. 311 is like the only post that actually tries to look at analysing someone then it's straight back to pushing me. I think Mac's play has been very safe so far which comes from the set-up. I don't think this sort of play would hold up in a normal game later than day 2 at which point it would be picked at for not being solving. But picking an easy to push slot and just keeping on the pressure day one then assimilating away when it flips town.

Copper - Copper just hasn't really said much all game (not that I'm one to talk to be fair). Some tonal/gut reads at the beginning of the game which is all well and good but they haven't developed into anything. The there was the pointless discussion about fake tunnelling as scum and then pushing the troll slot which I think is town

Spoiler:

Bit of an aside, but theses two posts make me want to consider a Mac/Copper team. Playing both sides of a slot and and trying to get traction of an entirely irrelevant question by a partner.

This might seem sort of off-topic but I'm still curious and would be interested how people answer - are you calling scum 'scum' this game, or 'Thing' ?

"Scum"

I don't think Clark is scum. Off-the-hip gut read.

Fuchs - already talked about

those are my three biggest scum reads. Windows and palmer are floating in the lower half of my reads as well but not to the extent of those three

My strongest townread is still Garry, then probably Childs.

flip flopped on mac as well

my read changed in 10 pages? wow, shocker

[Clark~]

Because I town read them more than you...