BROKEN SETUP! GAME OVER! 651

[Porkens]

/confirm

this should be sweet

[Porkens]

It's gunna be madness, for sure.

My instincts tell me that a mass claim would be extremely confusing and ultimatly unhelpful. Although, I would consider otherwise if someone could explain why it would be useful. I think claiming "not godfather" is just about the most suspicious thing someone could do at this point; especially since none of us know what side we are on. Therefore;

vote: Crazy

[Porkens]

WTF no Quotes?!

You need "x" around the name of the person you're quoting.

[Porkens]

Oh well what the hell.

I'm one of the people Crazy mentioned in his post. I wont 'out' our third personally, but I don't think it's a bad idea to come forward.

1. Last night I sensed <censored>. Result: Same Team.
2. <censored> sensed Crazy. Result: Same Team.
3. Crazy sensed Skitzer. Result: Not the same team.

My kill-order was on Verbal, I don't know about my team-mates.

The three of us ~might~ be lying to each other, but it doesn't feel like it to me.

So, now that I am holding hands with him...

unvote

Do the rest of you want to claim so we can see what our spider-web looks like?

[Porkens]

whoops.

vote: Skitzer

[Porkens]

Hitogorshi:

As far as Jshark being "outed," I missed his "reason to believe" post when I replied with my chain claim.

I was hesitant to claim our connections at first for two reasons:

1. I hadn't quite wrapped my head around the game setup, and didn't know if a claim would be the best thing to do.

2. I didn't know if we were mafia or town, I would

certainly

rather loose one of us instead of outing ourselves as the only 3 scum. Hence my vote on Crazy when he started spouting "omfg not godfather."

Now, however, I've thought about the situation, and I've come to the conclusions that A) we must be town. And B) it's good to claim it.

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First of all, for the reasoning behind A.

Let's look again at our chain:
1. Last night I sensed Jshark. Result: Same Team.
2. Jshark sensed Crazy. Result: Same Team.
3. Crazy sensed Skitzer. Result: Not the same team.


I know Jshark is on my team.


Jshark tied himself to Crazy by defending him in public. That tells me he isn't lying about his own sense.


Which means Crazy is also on my team. Crazy could be making up his sense, but that would be pretty schizophrenic.


Now, none of the three of us targeted someone who died last night; so none of us can be GF.


So; three townies*.
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*(Now, this all falls apart if, for some reason, Crazy is making up his sense OR (and this is more probable)

I

am lying to Jshark.)


Now, I will be awfully angry if either Jshark or Crazy's target DID die, and we've just outed ourselves as the only three scum in the game, but I don't think that's likely.

My proposed course of action for the town is to lynch Skitzer, and everyone talk to your known connections to coordinate a sense on either Jshark, myself, or Crazy tonight. By sheer numbers, we should be able to determine if we are three valiant town, or three dead dead scum.

[Porkens]

doublepost:

That's what I get for not reading the preview. I'm glad we're on board with this.

[Porkens]

with 12 alive, don't we need 7 to lynch?

[Porkens]

Oya, you're right!

[Porkens]

Why didn't you claim earlier?

iLord, why haven't YOU claimed your connections yet?

[Porkens]

There's no point to claim it when you can just PM the player.

Reall? I think there is value to setting down the connections in public record here in the main thread. What if you get NK'd and that information dies with you? It seems to me that only those who think they could be scum would want to keep their connections a secret.

Could you explain to me why it's pointless?

[Porkens]

Reall? I think there is value to setting down the connections in public record here in the main thread. What if you get NK'd and that information dies with you? It seems to me that only those who think they could be scum would want to keep their connections a secret.

Could you explain to me why it's pointless?

Because the information will not be lost - the other person whom I targeted will know my information.

But unless you post your connections, how can we verify the results? If you tell us now, one of us in the confirmed chain can SM you or your partner, and it's all good in the hood. Otherwise; someone we haven't sensed might pop up in two days and say "oh hey no guys I'm cool, iLord cleared me days ago."

Now, I'm not pretending like I don't know your connection, because you PM'd me, and I've relayed that to my associates, but I'm still confused about why you wouldn't want it out in the open.

[Porkens]

O wonderful and great mod; we need a night!

[Porkens]

Good morning!

We should tell our reports.

iLord is not on the same team as I.

vote: iLord

[Porkens]

I think that's a hammer, no?

[Porkens]

I really like the idea behind this setup and I think with some revamping it could work.

How would it change if;

1. The sense was a one-shot ability?
2. Only one "town" was really a cop (and maybe, like the night kill, everyone could see the result?)
3. There were more scum/godfathers?
4. There were no PMs allowed?

[Porkens]

Well thanks for the game guys, I hope this setup can return someday with a revised ruleset.