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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:13 am

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Post Post #17 (isolation #1) » Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:49 am

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mneme wrote:but also "lost"
a
serial killer.
Interesting choice of word. Isn't it usually "the" serial killer in most games?
Not to cast aspersions, but wonder what you know that we don't...

We still have enough scum to deal with, I suppose. Surely, a vig (if around) does not kill N1?
Unless, there
are
two SKs...with one, now in the past tense.

No random vote from me.
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Post Post #29 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:17 am

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Help me out here please.
Punisher?

Disclaimer: I am not convesant with all of marvel comics. I know them more from the cartoons than the books. :oops:
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Post Post #36 (isolation #3) » Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:57 pm

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Rather interesting for a vig to be using his power on night one.
Maybe he's gone mad or something. Night 2 will decide stuff I suppose.
No clue who to vote for yte. Am thinking of bandwagongin someone to get started...
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Post Post #38 (isolation #4) » Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:29 pm

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lulu wrote:are two SKs and two mafia too much?
Do you mean two SKs and a mafia team of two? Or two SKs and two mafia teams?
The kills would indicate either two mafia and an SK, therefore making the Punisher part of one mafia team, or one mafia team and two SKs with the Punisher being SK 2.
If you are indeed thinking of two SK and two mafia teams... :shock:
If he is a vig, he got very lucky on N1, but it was dangerously poor play.
Night 2 should make things clearer. we can only hope he
was
indeed looking for Venom.
That brings me to question 2: Was there any history between the two? Are the part of the same comic? If not, it brings us back to him being SK. (I have no clue on either character, so I will probably be wrong)

Also,
vote: lulu
. It's just a feeling. I'm open to suggestion elsewhere.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #5) » Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:01 am

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Interesting.
Vote still stays though, on basis of feeling and lack of a better place to put it.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #6) » Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:29 am

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lulu wrote:like i said, just trying to cover all bases. please don't let a feeling turn into a lynch just because i'm into the theme.
You
are
covering all bases. Aceptable. And you even came up with a link with info. However I'm just keeping my vote on you on the basis of feeling and lack of a better place to put it. Toodle's was random. You still need four more. You're not being lynched. Don't worry.

Speaking of which, at two votes, Toodle unvotes lulu which was her "random" vote. Quailman has voted in between for an entirely third person and Toodle calls two votes 'the beginning' of a bandwagon. That sends bells ringing. Defensiveness and pre-emptiveness combined?

Call me paranoid. Call me wrong.
fos:toodle
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Post Post #57 (isolation #7) » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:56 am

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Just checking in. Nothing new here.
Toodle's reaction has done nothing to alleviate my FOS. I'm also happy to keep my vote as is - for now. Maybe we'll go lurker hunting soon.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #8) » Wed Jul 07, 2004 7:26 am

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My my.
That is a rather nice bandwagon that's been started.

DP's hunch, I'll respect it. I'll also respectfully say, he is off the mark here. Calling it a hunch himself, he can hardly provide more definite evidence as to my "scuminess". If any of you bandwagoners can come up with it, I will try and rebutt it. Till now, I feel like a flock of sheep is coming towards me. Lynching me is not quite in the town's interest. My intentions are quite honourable and if we are to defeat scum, you need to start thinking and stop following blindly.
KingEnigma wrote:I dont have a hunch, but if someone HAS a hunch, i feel its my civic duty to follow the only hunch I have seen.
I'm sorry,
what
?
I call that crap logic. If I say now, that I have a hunch about DP or any other player for that matter are you gonna follow along? If you get a choice, what would you choose? Would you think about it? Or just run along with the nearest bandwagon? Or not care less where your vote lies because you actually might be oppurtunistic scum?
Toodle on the 6th of July wrote:I think I will jump on the bandwagon... we've got to get things moving...
Wow!
Toodle on the 28th of June wrote:I personally don't like to be a part of a bandwagon lynch and I'm afraid that is where this is going.
:shock: - No more comment here -

Coming back to my suspicions of you.

Agreed that maybe you got panicky thinking it was 4 to lynch when Yanqush voted for you on the same day (the 28th). Simple mistake, given the explanation we recieved later. However, at that time you threw a vote on Yanqush just because he was the latest one to vote for you. It was OMGUS and you did not call it as much. You were just grasping at straws with panic? At this point, even DP is voting for you and you try and explain your earlier crap logic with an excuse which was accepted for the time being.

The first above, is not quite crap logic, no. It's double standards. Practice what you preach? Hmm?

I have an fos on you Toodle, I'll
unvote lulu and vote toodle
.
At first, I thought you and lulu were working together. You threw your first "random" vote on her - a common scummy practice - and then were the first to jump off the "bandwagon". Toodle's later vote for you and a couple subsequent posts will lead me to downgrade my vote to an
fos: lulu
because of the original gut feeling and also because you, Toodle, are setting off my scumbells more than lulu at the mo.
As always, there are two sides to each story and you might still be scum mates. However, I think one of you is SK and the other, scum.
Toodle wrote:If it is the Punisher, I believe we have a vigilante, not another SK.
Another?

Also, a vig who kills on day one? Makes me think you are SK.
Quailman wrote:No reaction from Phoebus to three votes? I wonder if he'll react to four. He suggested we go lurker hunting
Guilty as charged on the "suggestion for lurker hunting part". However, in the other part of the sentence, I beg to differ.
Lurking - An informal definition would be not posting in a particular game while posting in others. Therefore, lying low to avoid detection adn blending in to the crowd.
Admittedly, my "lurker hunt" post was on the 30th. DP voted me on his 'hunch' on the 5th. I did not post in the meanwhile. Please indicate high posting frequency in any game during that period. School keeps me from posting loads and loads. Especially with not much happening in the game that needs commenting at that particular moment. I just updated my modded games and then usually logged off those few days. There were
seven
posts in that period from my post to DP's voting me. Wouldn't that make almost everyone qualify as lurking? With next to no content in any of those posts, I would be inclined to say so.
Also, the three votes were piled up in the last 36-48 hours. There will have been no posting from me in that period,
anywhere
for the fact that I had to sleep over at a relative's and then I was away all day today at a country club, with subsequently, no access to the internet. You can cross check this with my Asterix game.

I don't think I'm missing anything of what I wanted to say. However, it's bed time, so it will have to wait another 12 hours, if I have. I also do not role claim unless it is absolutely necessary. I consider it bad play and useless for us if we give scum an idea of what might be easy claims. So at four vote, I don't think you'll get one.
While it
is
two votes away, I am hoping what I have said here makes sense to you all and it won't come to role claiming time. However, if in the next 24 hours, you still are not convinced, you shall have it.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:35 am

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KingEnigma...
Did you not read post 71?

Does that not offer you a new point to look at?

Either you did not read it (bad play) or do not want to read it (*ding ding ding ding*)
I wonder which and I wonder why.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #10) » Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:59 pm

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'tis interesting to note that Yanqush seemed to be online before and while lulu posted.
He's up to three votes already and was around atleast 20 mins.
Maybe he needs encouragement.

unvote toodle ; vote: yanqush
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Post Post #93 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:19 am

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request a mod prod?
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Post Post #102 (isolation #12) » Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:44 am

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What explanation? :?
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Post Post #111 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:07 am

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Toodle wrote:Caveman and Phoebus
almost
seem to be working as a team to get rid of Yanqush.
Hah!
Toodle wrote:They both pointed out that Yanqush was online but didn't post. I think we've all done that, right?
And have you done that when you've had 3 votes on you? The 'out of town' excuse is acceptable especially since he
did
post in LA thread but if I came back from vacation to find a bandwagon on me, I'd atleast pop in to ask everyone to hang on to their socks till I got my things in order at home. Wouldn't you?
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Post Post #126 (isolation #14) » Mon Jul 26, 2004 6:44 am

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For lack of night kills and given the fact that we were told Spidey seems to have trussed mneme up and while I'm wondering if the Vig was lucky after all...I'll
vote: mneme
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Post Post #149 (isolation #15) » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:40 pm

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Allrighty then1 Talk about convenience... :roll:

N1 - DP - dead
N2 - me - "evil"
N3 - ? - blocked

I refer you to the last two lynches. Tell me what kind of mafia member would willingly put his buddies on the chopping block with such earnestness?

Yanqush - I was the one who noticed him being online and not posting. He came back to say that he was away. While a fact, I think this would have been a really good time for me to jump off his lynching train. Did I? No.

mneme - I was first to vote - was then alleged to be playing a cat and mouse game. Um...if I were scum and playing a cat and mouse game...one mate ...yeah...probably mafia would sacrifice one mate to appear pro town or whatever. But two? Um? No.
Especially given the fact that mini games usually consist of a complement of three scum. Two mates lynched on consecutive days with me voting for both would hardly be ideal play. Think of the time when y'all were scum. Would you have done that? I doubt it and I have not done it here either.

I was going to let you off Toodle but now with this "investigation" of yours, I think we have a case of Celebrity X - especially since no one cross claimed Dare Devil. I believe you...yes...but I also think you are evil.

With this supposed "guilty" result and corresponding evidence of DP's actions...we have it nailed with you methinx. I personally know how DP plays as role blocker because of a discussion with him some time ago and if I'm not mistaken, he mentioned some things in a thread somewhere around here as well. DP
will not
use his blocking abilities till he is almost certain about the guilt of someone (and let's face it...DP is good at discerning these things) and he
never
uses a block on N1 as some others might - hence the lack of spidey glue on D1. N2 - he got mneme, who as we consequently found out was guilty and I will
vote: Toodle
on the strength of him targetting you on night 3,
especially
given the fact that he would not have the ability to try again due to the need to reload.

You've been guilty of bandwagonning on Day 1 based on pure unadulterated crap logic and when people started voting - you conveniently came up with a claim of Dare Devil even though it was not demanded from you. As I said, it's been taken at face value and so, I conclude it's a case of Celebrity X. Tell me...you claimed day one - you are a "confirmed innocent" - why are you still alive? In two nights, even with the concession that doc *might* protect the "innocent" the day they were revealed, surely, you would've been taken out last night?

I call you an extremely clever serial killer who has decided not to use her kills and lie low due to the luxury of CelebrityX and chance her luck of not being night killed due to the claim (quite successfully, I must say) and then lynch/kill her way to victory in end game.

You cannot be working with scum, for your being tied up last night would've gotten us no kill again and ofcourse - it's Dr. Doom who killed - not Dare Devil (heh...look at the initials :P coincidence? :?) You are some piece of goods I must say.

As long as we are on the subject of Dr. Doom -
fos: King Enigma
who has been flying under radar. He came in to lynch Yanqush at the very end when no respite for his mate seemed possible and even at the time, admitted that he would "sem very scummy" - especially for the fact that he
is
scum. I have found myself several times putting in little titbits like these when I play scum so that I don't feel guilty of totally lying and can then say to myself, that "heh. they did not spot me doing/saying it. yay!" I'm sure you'll say...well, he was the third vote on mneme. Um...granted. But look at his vote and the timing of the other two. While he did "refute" mneme's claim, there was a large period of time between his vote and the last two, which came in very close succession. He had no time to unvote and I do not know what transpired between the two but the GF discrediting his goon's claim seems to have led to mneme voting for himself. That's all the conclusion I can draw from that.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #16) » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:49 pm

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Grr @ 'submit'. I wanted to preview.

Addendum:
I'm sure I'm not going to be let off without a role claim.
I'm Shadowcat - a commuter/self protected townie type.
I have the ability to "phase through" things i.e. pass through stuff like walls and let smaller objects pass through me as I become whatever translucent mass, Shadowcat becomes. As a result, I can survive a certain number of night kills via lazer/bullets etc. However, on a night after I need to use my ability (it's not a choice. duh! it's a necessity) I am exhausted and cannot phase again for one night. So, I am vulnerable that night. I got a PM telling me I'd been targetted on night 2 when day 2 commenced and now - here we have Toodle telling us herself that she targetted me and now that I saved myself, she's telling you that I'm "evil" when she could not kill me. I'm sure she took that chance thinking I must be the GF or some such thing with night kill immunity. Clever ploy, but it cuts no ice with me.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #17) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:23 am

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OK. With seven players left, one SK (Toodle) and one scum (KingEnigma), you are ready to hand me, an innocent, in to the gallows. They both kill this night and regardless of which one of them you lynch tomorrow with 2 town and two independant scum, you are basically dooming the town to nothingness? I doubt the Punisher would be too effective if he himself were targetted.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #18) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:30 am

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Well. Yes. Some similar discussion took place on Day one. Lulu mentioned two SKs and I picked up on it. She seemed to have cleared herself of most suspicion (though she is lurking now) and Toodle was open to the idea of more SKs earlier but *quickly* dismissed it once the Punisher came up.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #19) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:26 am

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us = the town, Sparky!
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Post Post #163 (isolation #20) » Fri Aug 06, 2004 6:40 am

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Right....buddy one
and
two on consecutive days. Brilliant!
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Post Post #171 (isolation #21) » Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:43 am

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This is amusing to say the least.
If I were townie, (and most anyone else, I dare say) I would fight tooth and nail until I got lynched. Voting for myself, especially when I have only one vote and someone else has more...it defies logic. :?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #22) » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:09 am

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You did well. My personal thoughts are that maybe the Punisher is too powerful. In a worst case scenario where he gets lucky and targets killers on successive nights plus some poor play on scum's part like I must admit happened here, would make this a very short game indeed.

Bah! I knew I should've gone after Toodle. Coulda woulda shoulda... :|

Well played town. Apologies to scum mates for voting them off. But hey! It's a game...
Hunt y'all some other time. ;)

I must say, holding off lynch for this while, despite the inactivity was gratifying to some extent. See how sad a person I am? :(

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