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WTF, midwaybear was launched already?!?! That hammer is so scummy for Dunnstral - it probably means he's town. Blair's reaction is really good and I can sense the genuine outrage - probably means she's scum since she wanted some more time to set up for tomorrow.
Here's my vote of respect for midwaybear:
VOTE: CanLaunchthePuppyHectic- Mafia Goon
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Alignment Indicative Solving Questions:
1) Are you mafia or town?
2) Are you a luncher or a launcher?
3) What is your mother's maiden name?
4) How excited are you to play this game?
5) What are your credit card details? - this one is v. important, it will help me solve
6) Do you prefer playing as town or mafia?Hectic- Mafia Goon
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midwaybear has little confidence as scum, Ydrasse enjoys chicken and rice and is also apparently my scum partner (don't know this for sure though because I still haven't checked - she could be bluffing), and Lauchy is setting themselves up to be demotivated and has battle scars. Very good, very good.
We can be friends, Launchy! Call me Mafi and I may even goonbloc you.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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Why was Dunnstral's entrance so scummy? If he's my partner, I'd really like to know.In post 74, Blair wrote:(Is that what people thought I was reacting to?)Hectic- Mafia Goon
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My questions have been ignored many times at it makes me sad. Just because I'm a goon doesn't mean you need to treat me like mafia...
Battle Mage is towny and probably not my partner :_
midwaybear may also be town but the site is dead right now and I can't open any new pages to ISO him. So, I will declare him shack for now.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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I want an actual answer for this. Why did you stop using them?In post 129, Battle Mage wrote:
If I kill some scum, I'll post some emojis.In post 111, Mafia Goon wrote:Why aren't you using any emojis, Battle Mage? I miss them. You make some good points on the bear - I know he's mislaunched frequently though so I'm gonna look at some meta first.
And yes that's fair, he was elimmed Day 1 in my only game with him. I remember him being less scummy there though.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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In post 122, innocentvillager wrote:do we know that there are exactly 3 scum? or is it merely probable
please don't read into this question from an alignment perspective I just want to know thanksIn post 123, innocentvillager wrote:^i would ask this as town or scum.
Inen is probably town for this. It takes some real perspective shifting to fabricate this line of thought. I'm disappointed, Inen; we would make good scum partners.In post 126, innocentvillager wrote:I just want to know what people's thoughts are on this, I don't have a good sense for closed game setup spec. But I've seen people ask this stuff multiple times in past games and it leads to some speculation about their alignment, so I wanted to acknowledge that I was conscious of this fact to make people read into it less. I hope me saying that doesn't make people read into it more -_-Hectic- Mafia Goon
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I wanted to vote you for this because it makes zero sense, but then I realised I should probably townread you for it for exactly that reason.In post 156, Nosferatu wrote:i think that if dunn flips red so does blair but not the other way around
Wait, actually, I thought about it more and it does make sense. It's like when someone checks someone else with the identity thing in secret hitler and claims the other person is liberal (town). The person making the check could still be fascist (scum) while the person being checked is liberal, but if the person being checked is fascist, then the checker has to be fascist.
Does that work for reads like it does for mechanics? Maybe. Elaborate if you can please.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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You doubt my gamesolving abilities, midway? It'll be your first and last mistake.
To answer your question, Launchy: Yes, I have solved the game, but it wouldn't be fair to everyone if I just spilled the beans now. I want everyone else to have some fun first before I end the game you know.
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Why is being combative scummy?
Pedit: IF you're my partner, Launchy, you can just say. No one will take you seriously and this game will become a lot easier.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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Getting so hung up over how a question like the one he asked looks means he's self-conscious about slips and how they can be read. I've made a very similar string of posts like that as town before, and I think it's weird and a hard thing to fabricate as scum, since the paranoia won't exist if you're scum since your aim with the question is to look towny for not knowing the answer in the first place, not to try and discount any way it can be read alignment-wise.In post 197, midwaybear wrote:Can you explain what you mean by perspective shift? I do townlean IV, but I don't understand how you derived it from the posts you quoted.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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No, not a traitor. Just a regular old mafia goon who hasn't looked at my partner(s).
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I like these posts from redrock. Are you misgooned often? Also, that's your one wall used from your daily wall quota. Please don't go over your limit like midway or BM.
Ydrasse's wagon hop is strange because she says she's sheeping it but then provides a point against the arguments for why redrock is scum. What points were worth sheeping, Ydrasse?
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Yep, that's what I'm doing. Not the manufacturing townreads part, but the throwing accusations/thougths around that aren't very serious part, because I don't have any good scumreads right now.In post 253, Blair wrote:
222 and 223 read forced and you've manufactured a townread out of thin air just in time to move your vote somewhere else, while shading a couple other slots without committing to actual scumreads.In post 230, Mafia Goon wrote:Tbh, that last post of mine sounds a little awkward/pockety even to me.
Why the other two, Blair?
Basically, you've managed to throw your weight in six or seven different directions without saying anything that would grant you any accountability for any of these pushes.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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Interesting. It's been a while since I saw the humble modifier in a game.In post 324, Dunnstral wrote:I'm a humble VT
All praisers on Dunnstral tonight to verify this.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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I'll look through the case(s) again.In post 328, Blair wrote:I'm well aware of that.
That's not why.
Now put him back at L-1 so Battle Mage can hammer the scum, please and thank you.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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The reasoning is reasonable. The static stance and no new reads that BM pointed out is a good reason. Your one is fine too.
(If you're my bud, Dunn, say "red alert" and I'll try and get you out of this. Otherwise, I'm taking the mislaunch here, m8)
I'll read through redrock/Nosferatu to see if I find them scummier.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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Oh, we have a day and 22 hours. Makes more sense why Dunn claimed and you're all looking for a launch right now.
I scumlean Noseferatu's play, but townread him off of meta. In his last game, he was mafia, and had plenty of reads upon entering the game. The fact he doesn't feel obliged to provide them here is probably town-indicative. Wait, that was 2 years ago actually, so doesn't count forthatmuch, but it's something.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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Uhh... I try to avoid using 1-sided meta while secret alting but I can't help it right now. I'm Zlair/Celeste. Don't out my main if you remember it pls.In post 335, Blair wrote:In post 334, Mafia Goon wrote:Blair is kinda scummy this game too btw.Have we played together before?
Pedit: Oh, really? Sounds like a fun story.Hectic- Mafia Goon
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Looking through their ISO, Launchy is surprisingly nullscum. They've taken some easy stances on calling BM and specific posts of his town. Wanting to be asked questions I want to give town points for, but there's few stances in there. I'm gonna do a quick meta check to see if they're normally like this early on.
Aaand looking through the Revelations game, I can see they're a lot more inquisitive and have more analysis in there. Oh wow, and then I actually check the OP and they were mafia in that game lol. I guess I should be townreading them for said reasons then?Hectic- Mafia Goon
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Hang on a minute here... Launchy was town in that game, and they were just "mafia" for flavour reasons or something. Also, the mod was picking the kills lul. I heard about this actually, people must've loved that when it was revealed.
For those interested: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12013841Hectic- Mafia Goon
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