Anything uPick (Endgame)

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t want to vote you and I’m torn on Gamma and not feeling great about Galron. I still don’t know what to make of Victorine yet.

So rn, I’d probably vote one of Gamma/Galron. No one else is pinging me rn. Yeah, they’re all over the place and I don’t really like their reasoning for their votes.

Gamma what is your read on Galron? I’m just concerned if Galron could be lhf but if Gamma towntells, that’s what I’ll probably do but I still don’t like Gamma’s posting enough not to vote him.

I don’t really have a read on Galron but even if I did it prolly wouldn’t be wise to quote me on it, I’ve only read him right like once and I didn’t even stick to that read

[Gamma Emerald]

Also what’s this about “if Gamma towntells” because there was a point where you seemed pretty okay with me post-Toog’s going boom? Did I misread your intention?

[Gamma Emerald]

Ewww I have oog reasons to want want throw up at a Gamma/Galron 1v1 gamestate.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why do people immediately respond to a request to talk with their guards up, that’s the third to do it

[Gamma Emerald]

I pretty much never anti spew especially early tho
There was a cancelled game a few years back (around the time of TM2018) where I got limmed D1 as scum after a botched fakeclaim and I didn’t anti spew despite being blatantly caught scum. So like, if I was throwing shot out in such a situation, anti spew isn’t a reliable thing to look for from me.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think my voting might be the biggest thing to read me on, I’ve kinda been playing like I used to way back when I started where I make wild and frequent votes trying to throw my weight around.

[Gamma Emerald]

well not mad but ur confusion** when im the one that has the PRIVEALGE to be confused. period

Fuck off about this, there’s no rule that we can’t both be confused about each other and this sort of mindset feels like a very toxic one

[Gamma Emerald]

you're a very hard null right now and the best way for me to solve you is for you to give a full explanation.

???? You just said you were defending me earlier? Why are you defending a null read?

[Gamma Emerald]

you're either just doing this on purpose to put pressure on to me as scum or you're just confused your self and don't have anywhere to go as town.

I’d say it’s a mix of both, and I’m town here

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes true you didn’t vote Ircher or Galron but then you sr people defending you but not sheeping you on Loft? If I’m in a game with let’s say town!Noraa and hard defend her but don’t necessarily sheep her, why would that make me scum?

I think the real problem I have with what Titus did was it was trying to assign my name to the Ircher vote when that wasn’t what felt was deserving of pressure atm. It’s a weird play and I think potentially aims to shift blame onto me on an Ircher townflip.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a very wide townrange. I have a very wide scumrange as well but the point is just because I’m not playing the same was as J have in one other game doesn’t make me a different alignment.

[Gamma Emerald]

you're a very hard null right now and the best way for me to solve you is for you to give a full explanation.

???? You just said you were defending me earlier? Why are you defending a null read?

because it was meta. cheeky didnt know how you played - i explained to them..??

what question is that. ur expierenced, u should know defending someone isn't that bad lol

lmaoooooo
Cheeky has more exp with me then you do, like pls

[Gamma Emerald]

there is a lot of aggressive ppl on this thread LOL

this is probably due to the nature of the roles everyone has

Okay hang the fuck on why were you reacting like you did to me when you posted this before?????

[Gamma Emerald]

I think my voting might be the biggest thing to read me on, I’ve kinda been playing like I used to way back when I started where I make wild and frequent votes trying to throw my weight around.

Another thing I wish you wouldn’t do unless you can find quotes to back it up is continue to respond to my questions with self-meta. Ftr, I don’t have any problem with self-meta obviously or I’d be a hypocrite but you’re invoking self-meta in lieu of actually answer my question here.

See, the main problem with this is, why couldn’t scum!you be replicating old town meta? If it’s recent town meta, it’s possibly valuable but my meta has drastically changed since I first started playing in 2017 and my very earliest townplay probably more closely resembles some of my scumgames because when I first started playing, I was either constantly being wagoned or miselimbait and after one game where I made an extremely unpopular hardtunnel and got miselimed and couldn’t convince anyone I was town, I became mainly focused with surviving rather than solving, so obviously that’s changed considerably but I can still sometimes fall into those old patterns which I did in my only newbie game on this sire but it’s still extremely rare though.

That was a response to Taly not you, but it was auspiciously timed

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, why would I deliberately replicate old town meta as scum? I think recent experience is showing that the best way to fake a town playstyle is to use things from recent games, since I’ve also kinda had to lean into doing things as town after doing them as scum and lemme tell you, that’s a miserable thing to do.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are you vote hopping all over the place? It reads to me like an anyone but me type of vote. I don’t necessarily sr you for that but it reads survivalistic af irrespective of alignment.

It kinda is an anybody but me, I call it Sandra style
But I also have been trying to push my own ideas as well as seen with me voting Queen and Loftwing. And also, it’s kinda hard to push anything when it feels like either you or Cheeky are always there to get in my way. Y’all said it was like House+Yume hydra but tbh it’s starting to feel deliberate, especially with how you’ve constantly been looking at me in comparison to another slot (me and Datisi, me and Ircher, me and GLB, me and Galron)

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma might be town and that makes me a sad panda

But Toog is the Panda...

what did you do with them?

[Gamma Emerald]

Don’t tell me how to feel!

[Gamma Emerald]

Don’t tell me how to feel!

im not doing that -

im just tryna help u bro



u seem like a very depressed town person

or ate af scum

Telling me to relax doesn’t help tho

[Gamma Emerald]

Did FB assimilate Toog
This feels like a sick joke based on Toog being scum and FB being town in The Thing Mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

Don’t tell me how to feel!

im not doing that -

im just tryna help u bro



u seem like a very depressed town person

or ate af scum

Telling me to relax doesn’t help tho

k sorry

my jokes are bad

TRANQUIL TRANQUIL

[Gamma Emerald]

someone please come help. pooky is bullying me

Good, you tricky lil identity thief

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah no I'm reading Mo's posts as town tbh
I have to go through the chains of reasoning really slowly to even barely comprehend them but the main point is that they're blurted out at such a fast pace and consistent convoluted density that I couldn't imagine being able to fake it as scum.
Can someone walk me through why the hedging on gamma is scum-ai

am i rlly that uncomprehendable? lol


and no one is saying that lol

I found you v hard to parse in 2234 which fueled my frustration w you

[Gamma Emerald]

What does bad faith actually mean because I feel like my usage of it isn’t in line with what it actually means. Be the Inigo to my Vizzini pls

[Gamma Emerald]

That was kinda @ Taly but anyone can answer

[Gamma Emerald]

Ah okay

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you mean me and GMo because idr anything from you about Deimos

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk how often Yume has done it before but she did this “y’all should be able to read me right” thing as scum in a recently “finished” game, AI UPick 2

[Gamma Emerald]

Do you mean me and GMo because idr anything from you about Deimos

Oh I see it now

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk how often Yume has done it before but she did this “y’all should be able to read me right” thing as scum in a recently “finished” game, AI UPick 2

Oh is it actually definitely Yume then

Yes
She tagged one of her posts in a game where she was hydra with House as Victorine so it’s her

[Gamma Emerald]

1st -The only reason you don't follow me here is because I was talking to gamma from a stance of meta. They know I usually act like this and I know that they act like this so I had to approach them in a way where they would understand. This isn't anything new.

I don’t know that this is the norm for you, I’ve played w you only once

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk what representative heuristic is but okay
And sure I’ll throw my log into the fire on this one
VOTE: Victorine

[Gamma Emerald]

-I have almost no respect for Yume's play even when she isn't doing literally nothing, so even if she's town we don't lose much

Okay don’t, she was actually alright in FFXIV as part of the hydra with House, she helped pull him from pushing several mislims

[Gamma Emerald]

Hmmmm

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay nah I don’t think that sort of virtue signaling is scummy
I had to take a minute to think about it

[Gamma Emerald]

I have no idea what either of you are saying.

From me, I was seeing GMO’s way of saying “I wonder what X will have to say when they see this” and I had to think back to when I myself had done that before, and the first thing that came to mind made it clear it wasn’t a scumtell

[Gamma Emerald]

lolwut
I’m always down to yeet a fool for a Wise Man’s Snare but I don’t think that’s the case here chief

[Gamma Emerald]

That was responding to 2426

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ve seen someone show real solving effort while basically trying to replicate what would be a non verbal game in irl mafia
Avoiding specifying who because the game I’m recalling for this I think a touchy subject for someone else and I don’t wish to reopen old wounds

[Gamma Emerald]

If we're going by your voting alone, you would have been dead days ago.

Suck shit. You’re just butthurt that I voted you, my other votes are all fine and I don’t feel like my vote on you was as bad as people say either. But for despite all the shit I got for it, my Queen vote was probably the towniest thing I’ve done all game.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Ircher
This is a fine vote.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I don’t know what your question is asking about

[Gamma Emerald]

He’s saying my voting was scummy, when I think it really hasn’t been and he’s only saying that because I voted him

[Gamma Emerald]

Even if it’s a joke it (as in, the post) still deserves death I think
Compare how he’s acting here to how he acted in this game, then try and tell me don’t understand why I’m being very critical of what Loft is doing.

Gamma I just think killing loft who is a claimed miller and low content slot, just doesn't help us much at this stage. If they keep it up in coming phases sure. Toog could've sorted them for us but c'est la vie.
~C

eh not rlly -- there is 17 ppl .


i rather get rid of the low content ppl and ppl who just troll around rather than get distracted with possible openwolf and warlocking

Hang on how do you know about warlocking

[Gamma Emerald]

What fucking shit reason for a vote
What’s

your

opinion on

me

, Mister Rodent?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Ircher
I don’t get how bad ratmans vote is meant to transition into voting Ircher but okay. And yeah if ratmans is sus of y’all’s read on me that should make me town? And makes GLB’s vote good there? I don’t rlly see scum agenda in it but there’s so many questions that need to be answered there

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Ircher
I don’t get how bad ratmans vote is meant to transition into voting Ircher but okay. And yeah if ratmans is sus of y’all’s read on me that should make me town? And what makes GLB’s vote good there? I don’t rlly see scum agenda in it but there’s so many questions that need to be answered there

EBWOP

[Gamma Emerald]

The questions are for ratmans, not you

[Gamma Emerald]

Although if you wanna address the first sentence that’s cool

[Gamma Emerald]

Even if it’s a joke it (as in, the post) still deserves death I think
Compare how he’s acting here to how he acted in this game, then try and tell me don’t understand why I’m being very critical of what Loft is doing.

Gamma I just think killing loft who is a claimed miller and low content slot, just doesn't help us much at this stage. If they keep it up in coming phases sure. Toog could've sorted them for us but c'est la vie.
~C

eh not rlly -- there is 17 ppl .


i rather get rid of the low content ppl and ppl who just troll around rather than get distracted with possible openwolf and warlocking

Hang on how do you know about warlocking

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s a term used like exclusively by 1 player who hasn’t been playing like anywhere for a while iirc

[Gamma Emerald]

No, Flavor Leaf
Also idgaf about shellyc, and I don’t associate with any site made as a MS competitor by someone who got banned from MS,

sorry not sorry

[Gamma Emerald]

we might be losing queen pretty soon

sad.

Is this announcing a prod
If so it’s rlly fking weird

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh no, I'm meaning that the wagon composition feels similar for the two of them. It's not something I'm basing my read or vote much off of right now.

Could you elaborate on that at least because idgi

[Gamma Emerald]

Because hunting elsewhere feels more productive than being defensive?

[Gamma Emerald]

Something like Ircher/Vic/Gypyx/Titus/NK15
I’m serious about that last one btw.

[Gamma Emerald]

Those are 3 players I don't have a good grasp on and while I believe

Titus

-scum is possible, I've reason to think they're town.

Namely their good faith interaction with my claim and their exasperation to the thread holding them to a high standard. Unless her play is to actively pocket me, I don't want to push her D1.

I already feel like she’s trying to pockit me so her also pockiting you seems very possible

[Gamma Emerald]

The biggest problem is all the people I feel like wagoning aren't active enough to respond to pressure. :/

And who precisely would that be?

You Victorine Clemency.

Oooo spicy. Titus why do you want to pressure the inactive, do you feel you've sorted the actives? Any strong townreads?
~C

Taly Deimos GLB are strong town
Sakura and Gamma mid town
Cheeky Datisi gtmh town

initial read

I'll try to catch up tonight but it looks like Gamma is the elimination.

weird apathy to my elimination in the face of the initial read. Why is Titus okay with an uncontested D1 wagon as town when that throws off her VCA later?

VOTE: Ircher

I stand with Gamma

VOTE: Ircher

I stand with Gamma

What's the position?

Ircher scum, Gamma town

Says she stands with me to vote Ircher when I hadn’t really said much on Ircher since the beginning of the game and I was voting Loftwing. Reads as she’s trying to push an agenda with a forged signature.

[Gamma Emerald]

Says she stands with me to vote Ircher when I hadn’t really said much on Ircher since the beginning of the game and I was voting Loftwing. Reads as she’s trying to push an agenda with a forged signature.

Shouldn't that make you question voting Ircher? You can't complain about Titus both being apathetic to and against your wagon, that seems like you're not really processing the thoughts you're presenting beyond a surface level.
~C

shrug
I’m not of the belief Titus’ Ircher vote isn’t a bus as of yet

[Gamma Emerald]

Not really and it’s less the case that the wagon on me dissolved and more that something else came up
My wagon peaked at like 8 votes and is currently at 7 in the last VC

[Gamma Emerald]

wait, is NK15 even a player or an alt?

He’s in the OP but not the VCs

[Gamma Emerald]

OK, I just rose a level of consciousness in this game.

Like town doesn't just casually say "why aren't you scum" on a player with very little thread presence.

I would

This seems like archaic trivial shit but I want to know where you stand with

Rat

and why you thought their entrance was town in any degree.

Idr explicitly townreading rat early but I think rat is kinda sus

[Gamma Emerald]

hello jury, I am

Taly, the Toucan

what do you think of this one?



might tunnel if you say

"lUl already said so"

He’s felt a little better since we first started interacting but I’m not certain he’s town

[Gamma Emerald]

OK, I just rose a level of consciousness in this game.

Like town doesn't just casually say "why aren't you scum" on a player with very little thread presence.

I would

This seems like archaic trivial shit but I want to know where you stand with

Rat

and why you thought their entrance was town in any degree.

Idr explicitly townreading rat early but I think rat is kinda sus

I BITE MY THUMB AT YOU

GAMMA

no really ily uh

why tho?

His progression thru the game has been pretty weird
He started by playing nice with FireBear, then went into trying to kill FireBear and CW for being super active, then tried to vote because he didn’t like CW’s read on me while also sucking up to FireBear’s vote on me

[Gamma Emerald]

Says she stands with me to vote Ircher when I hadn’t really said much on Ircher since the beginning of the game and I was voting Loftwing. Reads as she’s trying to push an agenda with a forged signature.

Shouldn't that make you question voting Ircher? You can't complain about Titus both being apathetic to and against your wagon, that seems like you're not really processing the thoughts you're presenting beyond a surface level.
~C

shrug
I’m not of the belief Titus’ Ircher vote isn’t a bus as of yet

You really think Titus would bus Ircher on D1?

It’s possible, her MO in Situation Room was “ineffectual busser” but it never worked out

[Gamma Emerald]

Something like Ircher/Vic/Gypyx/Titus/NK15
I’m serious about that last one btw.

lol that's such an epic solve there

if you'd replace members of the solve with random deepwolves, what would it look like?

Don’t know, don’t care, your tone already indicates you’re not taking this in good faith
But I could add rat in place of someone. But NK15 stays, because my gamestate vibe is that scum aren’t doing much in a way that isn’t explained by them just being in the lurkers

[Gamma Emerald]

Fwiw, Not Known 15 is probably not allowed to post. It's not really fair to call him a lurker.

Oh I’m aware of that which is what makes him a special case

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay and?
Also, cool to see you keeping up the typing quirk ig?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay and?
Also, cool to see you keeping up the typing quirk ig?

This was @ S_S

[Gamma Emerald]

Just a vibe
I’m pretty reliable with these sorts of reads I feel, like what I perceived in Radio Buzz

[Gamma Emerald]

It's Not Just Catching Scum

It's Catching Scum Who Can't Post Based On A Read Of How Much Scum Are Influencing The Game Or Something Like That

I Don't See How You Could Possibly Determine That

As someone caught this way in a past game

(tho it was somewhat BS)

you’re dead fucking wrong

[Gamma Emerald]

Say I were to claim a day cop inno on Ircher. Who would you vote, Titus?

[Gamma Emerald]

Victorine or Clemency if Ircher town.

Why Clemency?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Clemency
Worth a shot.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why is the last bit something that specifically points to Ircher?

[Gamma Emerald]

the only reason I said I didn't like this quote is because u seem like u felt defeated which gamma did as well but ironically, I like ur response to this since u stated it was a general trend.

...so you don't like the feelings of defeat from me then? If you're saying taly acted similar to me but you like taly then that's the obvious conclusion? So why dance around it, and why are you only null on me despite that?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma are you serious about the daycop inno on Ircher

No, I was just forcing Titus to take more stances
Honey, my vote was still on Ircher, that was never real.

[Gamma Emerald]

Galron's ISO is only 19 posts, wanna argue about it

...is it?
I must have been hallucinating or mixing games up but I saw like 10x that in activity overview

[Gamma Emerald]

Mo thinks Galron uber scummy
I think they're maybe one or two hair's breadths +scum
What say you

i dont think galron is UBER scummy. they are just the only person im looking at as possible 78% scum.

all other ppl in my mind I would have as scum lean but not as a full scumpush just like galron.

that other percent is me waiting for galron's response lol

can you put everyone at percentages like ircher does, or at least the folks you have reads on

[Gamma Emerald]

Galron's ISO is only 19 posts, wanna argue about it

...is it?
I must have been hallucinating or mixing games up but I saw like 10x that in activity overview

That was in "other games"

why does this post feel towny to me??????

fuck it I'm going with it because I TRed Galron for random shit in Radio Buzz and that was correct so WHY NOT

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh I thought "I get that" meant you agreed
Given that you are voting Ircher you sr them surely?

No. Ircher is, or at least was, the largest counter wagon. That's why I voted there.

why were you more interested in voting the counterwagon to me when you had barely read?

Well, NotKnown having not posted seems a bit odd. I would lean town there since I think scum would be putting some effort into this.

NK15 is literally unable to post via his role I presume, and NK15 is

not

high-effort scum!

And Pan Smieric I'm guessing is part of a hydra.

okay idk if galron would think to fake this but this was

the exact reason

I TR him in Radio Buzz was him prosecuting slots that weren't even really players, so him looking at Pan (who btw, was an alt slip of the now dead player DkKoba) like this is in line with that (previous instance had him looking at the backup mod of the game like this)

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't understand why it would feel townie. Not at all.

The blunt way you responded felt like you were more interested in the truth rather than any glossed-up perception of you

[Gamma Emerald]

so when he picked Death for his role.

I'm sorry what the fuck?

He LITERALLY picked that in the one of these that

I

ran, and I gave him a gravedigger strongman role
DID HE SERIOUSLY PICK DEATH IN ANOTHER ONE?

[Gamma Emerald]

Don't know what the commotion was, but it struck me that I play with gamma quite a bit but don't know much about him other than he likes some video games I've never heard of, so I wanted to know which movie he was watching.

when did we talk video games before, I forget and am genuinely curious
but ftr I was watching The Eternals in the theater

[Gamma Emerald]

Trying to think back to how that game where GMO, T3 and I were scum, and they ended up carrying me after I was zapped on Day 2 or something. I felt pretty bad, but I deserved to get killed. GMO and T3 just took over and power posted to victory. They both were talking out of their asses. GMO going after me feels similar to that game.

this + galron's 3 posts before it are kinda good imo

[Gamma Emerald]

so when he picked Death for his role.

I'm sorry what the fuck?

He LITERALLY picked that in the one of these that

I

ran, and I gave him a gravedigger strongman role
DID HE SERIOUSLY PICK DEATH IN ANOTHER ONE?

Why are you taking this remotely seriously, how would GLB know his role

I dunno, but GLB sounded so believable that I thought it was true

[Gamma Emerald]

Was I just had by a bavarian fire drill

[Gamma Emerald]

well me and firebringer and RCB got drunk yesterday night during our weekly civ5 game.

and RCB can't hold his liquor

and we asked him

yo what's up with that NK15 dude

and I kid you not this guy's face lights up like a pumpkin and he spews his drink all over his monitor

and he's telling us how he trolled NK15 with the trollest custom role ever

good times

OH MY GOD YOU ROLEFISHED THE MOD HAHAHAHAHA

[Gamma Emerald]

wrt to your cw question, it was because it was the largest cw and I think CWs with so much time left are a good thing.

this is a fair philosophy fwiw

[Gamma Emerald]

Don't know what the commotion was, but it struck me that I play with gamma quite a bit but don't know much about him other than he likes some video games I've never heard of, so I wanted to know which movie he was watching.

when did we talk video games before, I forget and am genuinely curious
but ftr I was watching The Eternals in the theater

I think you may have asked me whether I played some game that I had never heard of. And in general, you seem to post some reference to video games that I'm unfamiliar with. My video game range starts with text-based RPGs like Zork, goes through Atari 2600, Odyssey 1, Odyssey 2, Nintendo (the first one) and then stops until Skyrim. I've got this Steam account with a bunch of games but they're all old. So I like to hear about new ones I may like. But I think our tastes differ. Like with The Eternals. That doesn't sound like it would appeal to me.

Yeah I'm like a big fan of nintendo and indie games so there's some small level of overlap in our tastes but my steam library is just a bunch of indie titles (I've currently been hooked on Hollow Knight)

[Gamma Emerald]

ok i wasnt even trying to rolefish nk15

i was just like honestly wondering why rcb didnt prod the dude

its not my fault he was super drunk and just blabbed all about it

did you not catch the fact he was absent from VCs

[Gamma Emerald]

I think there might be a replacement now but I just straight up laughed my ass off that pooky managed to do a "loose lips sink ships" moment to RC
PEdit: I already know about deltarune, I have not bought it but I did watch a playthrough of part 2 because I wanted to be in on the memes
and I believe it because it's funny

[Gamma Emerald]

Also this looks
Legendarily contrived
To me

L e g e n d a r i l y
C o n t r i v e d

sir, contrived reads are my bread and butter, I TRed pooky for trying to vibe check me in another game

[Gamma Emerald]

If you have a preference Gamma please let me know

I'm good with either, I wouldn't use the tag if it didn't apply

[Gamma Emerald]

PEdit: I already know about deltarune, I have not bought it but I did watch a playthrough of part 2 because I wanted to be in on the memes

Well Maybe You Could Help Me Then I Have Never Actually Seen The Character I Am Supposed To Be Role Playing

If You Have Any Suggestions For More Accurately Imitating The Amazing Queen I Am All Ears

(I Do Not Actually Have Ears I Have Sound Sensors LMAO)

you're actually doing very well so far
maybe lean a bit more into her penchant for exerting her will onto others because that's a part of her character that you very much do not embody

[Gamma Emerald]

the only reason I said I didn't like this quote is because u seem like u felt defeated which gamma did as well but ironically, I like ur response to this since u stated it was a general trend.

...so you don't like the feelings of defeat from me then? If you're saying taly acted similar to me but you like taly then that's the obvious conclusion? So why dance around it, and why are you only null on me despite that?

ur a now town lean fwiw.

its different. I believe I was scum that game that's why

oh you meant in the other game, okay

[Gamma Emerald]

Shut up bro

ok deimos i'll ask him about your role next week

Lmao Gamma, Pooky is trolling you.

that's a long way to go for a troll if so?

[Gamma Emerald]

(do I want to go on a tirade about something that's bothered me for a little bit now)

[Gamma Emerald]

It seems like SS has a particular PR

Not only does every word they say have to be capitalized, but also something something computer

it seems based on the character of the original inhabitant of that slot, so they probably submitted that character as their pick

[Gamma Emerald]

so what the hell is Victorine's PR? can only post less than 10 words or over 10000?

[Gamma Emerald]

where's this coming from?

[Gamma Emerald]

okay.

[Gamma Emerald]

what's the record for longest D1 again, I think we can beat it

[Gamma Emerald]

speak to me with loads of flavor but in a way i can still tell what your alignment is

Well I Still Haven't Read Much

I Read Page 107 But It Didn't Make Sense Without Context Why Did You Ask Me To Read It

because in the 5+ games i remember you replacing in, you usually slap an almost-immediate townread on me when i show some level of frustration.

ive seen it both as town and as scum of you, but i still wanted to see how you'd react to a tonal outburst i gave in a game you otherwise have little to no impression of.

the only time you have actually not given me a townread upon replacing in AND was incorrect + mislimmed me, was when i was on an alt -

Cupcake Butterfly

in a recent game.

honestly forgot your alignment there and dont feel pressed to research atm.

but yeah im just sussing you out haha

He was scum in that one

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Ircher
yet again it seems like trying to push anywhere that isn't one or two designated slots is going nowhere

[Gamma Emerald]

Galron doesnt look like scum to me.

Same. OK I'm out for a bit glgl.
~C

Me neither

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Victorine

[Gamma Emerald]

a) why are you voting that way atp
b) weren’t you among the crowd of voices bitching at me for doing that to Queen?

[Gamma Emerald]

a) why are you voting that way atp
b) weren’t you among the crowd of voices bitching at me for doing that to Queen?

Can't tell if these are addressed to me because of how inaccurate point (b) is

I remember you and Ircher complaining about that vote, am I wrong on that?

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, your statement that your voting history is fine is objectively wrong by the fact that many of your votes have in fact been called out. And no, your Queen vote was not townie and accomplished nothing other than looking busy.

Oh right there was this
Yeah it's pretty bad
Hmmm

This was what I found in your ISO with a ctrl-f of “Queen”
So you didn’t really say it in the moment but it sounds like you agreed with Ircher about it here
Idrt S_S is scum as of yet but if he is I think this might be a rlly bad look for Deimos

[Gamma Emerald]

Sakura Hana/Titus/Ircher/Galron/~

has a nice ring to it.

The fact that

Victorine's

wagon gets more ground not long after this statement only makes me more comfortable with this PoE.

Why are you pushing a PoE you only feel confident that 2 scum are in? That’s less than half of the team.

[Gamma Emerald]

Cool. I open up to a page about me. I guess that means I'm a wagon of some sort. I can't keep up with this pace, so if you're going to kill me go ahead. Just make it quick so I don't have to worry about a prod.

What am I supposed to be responding to anyway?

Like, this should probably be NAI, but wouldnt scum him have buddies to help him get out of whatever hole he was in instead of just going "oh ok, just kill me then idc"

This expectation that scum would go crawling to the PT for aid the second they meet any struggle is kinda crazy
I feel like I’ve seen it a lot in recent memory and it’s sometimes right (maybe) but generally people probably tend to try to fight thru things themselves

[Gamma Emerald]

galron is possibly scum

Nope. If Galron flips scum I would be extremely shocked.

[Gamma Emerald]

It would be better if you used funny memes as your buffer posts

This
That’s one thing I can laud about Isekai UPick’s moderation

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus == literally no content.

wut

[Gamma Emerald]

Do I make the joke alt like I did with datsi before

[Gamma Emerald]

i scumread diemos27 but townread deimos27

And?

If Deimos27 owns the failsafe, I get nuked in response.

The whole fucking town celebrates in response.

The problem with this is...what, exactly?

wth

[Gamma Emerald]

r u okay GMo

[Gamma Emerald]

Believe in Pacman and Pacman believes in you.

I respect people I respect. None of you are them.

- m

Yeah this can die.

[Gamma Emerald]

2) This game has veered further into bastard territory than past games, but still isn't a bastard game in the sense of mod lies or jesters.

I missed that and am VERY WORRIED because the worst there’s been in the past was

a super-janitor that deleted the target’s posting history

.

[Gamma Emerald]

That's a nice copypasta.

Finally holy shit.


Someone fucking got it.


Firebringer was in this game.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=28641

Everything I said was copied from this game.

It was actually hilarious for like 5 seconds.

Were you in that??? Why you posting memes from old-ass games

[Gamma Emerald]

So yeah GMo is a liar then.

At Least

Possibly A Traitor But Certainly A Troll

I don't think it's very town to cause confusion for no reason.

Pro Town And Towny Are Unfortunately Not Highly Correlated

Somehow I understand

SS'

read progression and thought process with

Queen's

post restriction far more candidly than any other game I've played with him.

Mood.

[Gamma Emerald]

2) This game has veered further into bastard territory than past games, but still isn't a bastard game in the sense of mod lies or jesters.

I missed that and am VERY WORRIED because the worst there’s been in the past was

a super-janitor that deleted the target’s posting history

.

I think the worst role died with DonkeykongKoba

Nah that role was probably pretty tame
There was one like it in my first mafia game

ever

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay we know you are there now Yume

Don't run away from us again

I haven't forgotten your me-catching skills, by the way.

Cool- are you willing to state any reads

Not at this time. I am here but I am not capable of making actual effort yet.

I am trying to tryhard, really hard.

- m

ahhhh

[Gamma Emerald]

are you scared because you are scum...

or are you scared because you are town...

talk to me my love

This might be a town thing? I need to double-check a thing

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly I thought SS was just really committed to replacing Queen and didn't think for a second it was actually a post restriction

What did you think of

GrandpaMo’s

post just before this one?

[Gamma Emerald]

That would be the dopest and coolest highlight of the game of me fucking with firebringer just to coincidently be Vic's role lol

I know you aren’t mastina because you were in a normal game
She doesn’t play them because she figure being part of the NRG gives her an advantage

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly I thought SS was just really committed to replacing Queen and didn't think for a second it was actually a post restriction

What did you think of

GrandpaMo’s

post just before this one?

I think this is an exercise in theatre by scum!GrandpaMo to make scum!Victorine's post restriction more believable

Wrong answer imo. There was a thread I wanted you to take a hold of and you missed it completely.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think this is an exercise in theatre by scum!GrandpaMo to make scum!Victorine's post restriction more believable

That Would Be Extremely Heavy Handed

Have You Played With Traitor GMo Before

Your terminology is kinda glitchy because traitor is a role not an alignment for me and expressing it as an alignment breaks my brain

[Gamma Emerald]

actually

VOTE: loft

i wanna see where this leads

I forget why I backed off of him exactly but I am still kinda not interested in pushing him rn

[Gamma Emerald]

actually

VOTE: loft

i wanna see where this leads

It leads me into reclaiming miller.

Miller claim means nothing in this situation

[Gamma Emerald]

Take hold of it yourself

I am pretty sure I'm right

You might be
I remember that sort of posting from both Kate hydra and Cabd towards marci, so you might have a point but it might also be genuine urge to help

[Gamma Emerald]

-Why did Yume suddenly start signing every post with M having done that on exactly one other post, along with also having signed as "Big bad wold" and "Red" previously, at a time when GrandpaMo decided to push the agenda that Yume's post restriction was to imitate Mastina?

I know this one!
Mastina was working on a comic a WHILE back about a character called “little red rider” iirc

[Gamma Emerald]

Guys wanna wagon jjh after all

Maybe
He hopped on me real fast for the Rem Galleu gif but was completely blind to the parallels I saw in how GMo interacted with Vic and how Kate/Cabd interacted with marci in isekai

[Gamma Emerald]

Does Yume know that?

Why would she not? Mastina is like her fave person on site

[Gamma Emerald]

Or to put it this way: if I guess a player's flavor correctly, I get a reward. Just like in those old 'prize catching games' at carnivals.

...

[Gamma Emerald]

Or to put it this way: if I guess a player's flavor correctly, I get a reward. Just like in those old 'prize catching games' at carnivals.

Is the prize Death?

[Gamma Emerald]

I wonder if I'm LHF this game, hmmmm.

Maybe a little LHF, as a treat

[Gamma Emerald]

Or to put it this way: if I guess a player's flavor correctly, I get a reward. Just like in those old 'prize catching games' at carnivals.

Is the prize Death?

Blank Space
are you scumreading Loftwing for that?

not rlly
I said I wasn’t gonna claim but I think I should state I’m pretty sure Yume just made the same mistake Taroumaru did in a previous game of claiming something awfully similar to my role
Also, I don’t know whether I actually said it but I very much had the thought earlier that people were being too open with flavor claims

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m sorta counterclaiming Vic if I wasn’t clear
I basically have 2 abilities that have to do with flavor, one of which involves figuring someone else’s flavor out

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m not claiming flavor but my ability is honestly

really fitting

to it

[Gamma Emerald]

You probably do a cop check on yourself based on how you read people’s interactions with you
Also your statement that anyone with the ability to redirect your ability should do so

[Gamma Emerald]

Does this game start back up tomorrow, or is there a secondary game or smth

???

[Gamma Emerald]

My comprehension of this game is rapidly decreasing
Can we kill Victorine so my sanity can remain intact (at least, as intact as it is rn)

[Gamma Emerald]

Cool, we’ll vote you out after Vic flips scum then

[Gamma Emerald]

It's not that I'm

that

confident. It's that the reverse order is better from a mechanical standpoint.

how

[Gamma Emerald]

You think by being vague you’ll draw votes huh
Everybody on Victorine, NOW.

[Gamma Emerald]

Probably

[Gamma Emerald]

There’s a whole load of possible reasons for this, I’m just tuning Ircher out atp

[Gamma Emerald]

Probably

By probably, do you mean that there are other factors as well? If not, what do you mean by probably?

well, yeah
confident reads feel at a premuim rn, especially SRs, so I'm sticking to my guns and trying to see where that gets me

[Gamma Emerald]

We can kill Galron as well.

We're not doing that.

[Gamma Emerald]

ghost associatives compared to ghost individual tells

I lent out my BoM. Can you explain ghost associates and ghost tells?

what is this book of mafia in actuality

[Gamma Emerald]

doesnt mafia have way more liability to bus vic now?

fwiw -- its way better just to take the equity of bussing vic rn since vic is in a shitty spot and there is atleast one person in the mafia scum pt that has approached the idea of bussing/...

lets not concern ourselves with bussing/whiteknighting or anything else until i get a GOD DAMN FLIP

There's 2 flips right there, we're clearly on day 2 after limming toog and scum NK'd koba.

best post this game

[Gamma Emerald]

I Am Not Lurking That Is Rude

You Don't Want To Insult Me Or You'll Face The Wrath Of My Final Attack It's Gonna Be Good

who said you were lurking

[Gamma Emerald]

The overall impression I am getting from Taly is he is struggling to get actually in the game. This is evidenced by each of his constant backtracking on reads. To be clear, one or two read reversals are fine, but it seems he tries to start a wagon, it gains some momentum, and then suddenly he is no longer interested in it. This just seems really strange. This combined with the higher level of aggression equates a scum read.

I feel like outside of the aggression this describes my play as well :/

[Gamma Emerald]

I was going to ask GMo if their shot was still in the outbox. But then I realized that unlike toog they had posted the shot in-thread, which means they cant edit/cancel it. So I figured if toog's shot operated via mod PM, then any other day abilities including vigs should do the same, then I figured it was fake and reaction testing.

smort

[Gamma Emerald]

If Ircher is town then I would lock in Vic assuming Irchers role is somewhat informed about Vics role.

I will be clear here: I do not have a mechanical reason to believe Victorine is town.

@Mo Did you try working out the logic?

OK.. but say you're limmed, do you still want Vic as lock town?
~C

what's the point of this question

[Gamma Emerald]

Well that's that give up your banner jj

???

[Gamma Emerald]

You know, chat mafia exists.

why is this important

[Gamma Emerald]

why am i waking up to 30 new pages

someone tell me if there's anything worth reading there because lol no

maybe? gmo did a reaction test on ircher

[Gamma Emerald]

Get off Rat.

- Uzi

that explains some things

[Gamma Emerald]

I need to stop repeating the same word multiple times in my texts.

why do you think that happens for you

[Gamma Emerald]

why am i waking up to 30 new pages

someone tell me if there's anything worth reading there because lol no

maybe? gmo did a reaction test on ircher

cool, you can tell me what happened?

fake dayvig, the usual, people didn't like ircher's response time

[Gamma Emerald]

I know votes have moved since then (particularly ircher's) though that haven't moved before so that's not rlly a good question
but I think ydrasse, glb, and S_S have still yet to move at all, ydrasse and S_S probably should or at least should explain why not, glb I don't rlly expect to move their vote

also do you mean scummiest slots on my wagon or scummiest slots in general?

[Gamma Emerald]

was there a way for gmo to be aware of this? because i didn't know that. so the tmi idea might actually hold more weight than i first thought

u might be onto something

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma Emerald (2): Ydrasse, Something_Smart

yeah why are y’all still voting me outside of laziness

[Gamma Emerald]

Ydrasse why was your vote on me for so long

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah why are y’all still voting me outside of laziness

I Am Not

I Am Disappointed By Your Lack Of Reading Ability How Am I Supposed To Give You Orders If You Can't Even Read Them

I didn’t see your vote from later on, I don’t have fucking future vision

[Gamma Emerald]

I know but still, have a little understanding and also recognize I’m rlly bad at amending myself when my questions get answered before they’re asked

[Gamma Emerald]

Ydrasse why was your vote on me for so long

i quite thoroughly do not care about this game and just want someone to die

you were a big wagon at some point and now you aren’t so it moved

If the wagon shifted onto you would you mind that?

[Gamma Emerald]

yes lol i would throw a fit because i’m waiting until d2

Then it’s not that you don’t care about the game lol

[Gamma Emerald]

We are going to set the record for largest D1 and largest game.

I’d be kinda proud if we did because that record has sat untouched since like 2017

[Gamma Emerald]

I can’t wait for NK15’s heroic entry just like GiF in isekai

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah can we pls not be dicks to each other just because we can or we think it's funny

[Gamma Emerald]

Victorine is closer to lim, so if you want to end the day Victorine is the best vote
the disconnect is potentially that fire assumes you want to end the day rn

[Gamma Emerald]

this is an interesting turnaround from how CW was treating firebear before, where they were calling them obvtown but specifically predicating that w me being scum, imo firebear has been towny w/out needing that consideration which made the insistence on reading them thru me kinda distressing for how I viewed CW
but ig what reads as interesting also completely checks out when I put it that way?

[Gamma Emerald]

this is an interesting turnaround from how CW was treating firebear before, where they were calling them obvtown but specifically predicating that w me being scum, imo firebear has been towny w/out needing that consideration which made the insistence on reading them thru me kinda distressing for how I viewed CW
but ig what reads as interesting also completely checks out when I put it that way?

that was when pooky was main poster.
when i became main poster it was different

with pooky wanting SRs this is hysterically funny

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is

Vic

? Can I get a hint?

Vic = Victorine = Yume (idk if you know who that is tho)

[Gamma Emerald]

this is an interesting turnaround from how CW was treating firebear before, where they were calling them obvtown but specifically predicating that w me being scum, imo firebear has been towny w/out needing that consideration which made the insistence on reading them thru me kinda distressing for how I viewed CW
but ig what reads as interesting also completely checks out when I put it that way?

My read on Pooky had 0 connection to my read on you. I don’t understand why you would even think otherwise?

because you (or cheeky, one of you) brought it up a lot how my scumflip would "spew GLB as town"

[Gamma Emerald]

up!

[Gamma Emerald]

this is an interesting turnaround from how CW was treating firebear before, where they were calling them obvtown but specifically predicating that w me being scum, imo firebear has been towny w/out needing that consideration which made the insistence on reading them thru me kinda distressing for how I viewed CW
but ig what reads as interesting also completely checks out when I put it that way?

My read on Pooky had 0 connection to my read on you. I don’t understand why you would even think otherwise?

because you (or cheeky, one of you) brought it up a lot how my scumflip would "spew GLB as town"

OIC but that has nothing to do with you specifically, rather because your hypothetical scumflip would spew him town due to Pooky having a no bussing meta. So it could be pretty much any slot that would have caused me to reach that particular conclusion.

oh yeah that's technically true, but I was just scum with pooky and he also has a mutual retaliation rule where if you attack him he turns off his no-bussing rule

[Gamma Emerald]

waow

[Gamma Emerald]

what are we counting

[Gamma Emerald]

whaaaaat

also I've been playing thru The Henry Stickmin Collection after getting it on sale and I've been doing the routes of the last chapter in order of what routes the bios come from, and I just reached

that one route

. Time for SADNESS.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: gypyx
I’m not rlly confident about this but his post responding to me having him in my rando solve was just, bad. Definitely don’t like him trying to sow paranoia with me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Is sleeping in way too late with no clear cause a sign of depression? I feel like that’s been happening to me

[Gamma Emerald]

Boop.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gypyx also lurks as scum because he doesn’t know how to play it

[Gamma Emerald]

And I am ever the answerer
VOTE: Gypyx

VOTE: gypyx
I’m not rlly confident about this but his post responding to me having him in my rando solve was just, bad. Definitely don’t like him trying to sow paranoia with me.

He’s not even ellitelling last time I checked.

What games is he even in, is the question

[Gamma Emerald]

As a player? Couldn’t find any.

Okay so why does this matter? It’s like when you said AA9 was ellitelling while she was moderating a game. Not saying you bringing it up makes you suspicious, but you need to fact-check whether ellitell even rlly should be brought up.

[Gamma Emerald]

My point is you brought up something that basically doesn’t matter because he’s not playing other games. I don’t think anything of it but by bringing it up out-of-turn you make yourself an easier target for anyone looking to bring you down.

[Gamma Emerald]

My point is you brought up something that basically doesn’t matter because he’s not playing other games. I don’t think anything of it but by bringing it up out-of-turn you make yourself an easier target for anyone looking to bring you down.

How?

It might be painted as you shading Gypyx, iunno
I’ve said what feel I need to say on this matter and pressing me further I think will just make me uncomfortable. I’m pretty sure you’re town because my one seed of doubt kinda shriveled and died

[Gamma Emerald]

wut

[Gamma Emerald]

I miss Tammy, I know she played recently but I had to abstain from that game for personal reasons

[Gamma Emerald]

for not hammering someone like 3k posts ago

That prolly would’ve been me so uhhhh, pass on that?

[Gamma Emerald]

OMG FINALLY holy shit this took a long ass time.

im really anticipating this flip.

this will give us a lot of info imo.

ircher not being here at hammer >> usually implies being scum (from my expierence)

-- now ircher can u rr

What does rr mean

[Gamma Emerald]

Supersaint kills the hammerer. Otherwise, I would have just self-hammered.

My interpretation is they pick.

That’s vengeful, not supersaint

[Gamma Emerald]

Same for you GLB and GE.

Hell anyone can chime in.

“Active nullreads” is kinda a hard thing to come up with because I feel like I can actually provide feelings on a good number of slots atp
Maybe someone like ratmans or Clemency might be good to look into tho?

[Gamma Emerald]

Guess what folks?
WE’VE HAD THE RECORD FOR LONGEST D1 BEATEN BY 10 PAGES!!!
Let’s fucking goooo!!!

[Gamma Emerald]

My solve is currently something like Taly/Deimos27/ratmans/Gypyx/T3.

For townreads: Cheeky, Sakura, Good Luck, Victorine, jjh927, Smart

pedit: Supersaint kills the hammerer. Otherwise, I would have just self-hammered.

lmao this solve sucks

What's your solve?
~C

v good question actually