Mini 1993 - Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse - GAME OVER

[Not_Mafia]

the shortest sufficient answer

This will still be like 3 screen lengths

[Beefster]

Also, C&S may or may not be scum, but we aren't lynching them before we lynch acryon. Notice he's letting all this other shit play out and remaining silent yeah?

I can't prove that's what he's doing as he hasn't posted anywhere else since the end of D1, but my gut tells me it's so.

Oh sure, acryon is probably scum given his self preservation move, but how about you get off that fence for C&S?

[Kthxbye]

Care to comment on mastina's claim kthnxbye? Or are you just gonna continue your discredit on everyone pushing her?

A: The claim makes perfect sense considering the flip and no counter claim
B: It also makes sense that it's a town claim as I don't see the backup JOAT being a backup to a scum role
C: If memory serves, scum!Mastin doesn't flail as hard as they have today when getting attacked

I personally buy the claim and buy it as town at this time. Nothing said to the contrary has made more sense than the above.

[Kthxbye]

I personally don’t know anyone who would put a scum messenger that looks like town in a game, only a fool would do such a thing

Messenger IS NOT CONFIRMED. Quit acting like it is

[Kthxbye]

Hey Almost50.

Did you do anything last night with w/e role you have? I don't want specifics, just curious. I'd ask the same of NM, but he's just a douche disrupter and doesn't answer questions thrown at him anyway.

[Kthxbye]

and just to clarify, don't out w/e role you might have, just a "yeah, I did something" or "no, I didn't" is all I'm looking for. That goes for anyone willing to answer. Trying to figure something out.

*que NM saying some bullshit about this being scum trying to find PR's cuz he's an idiot and sadly probably town*

[Not_Mafia]

What makes you think you have the towncred or authority to ask that?

[Kthxbye]

just cuz you're blind as shit doesn't mean everyone else is.

also, I'm trying to find scum unlike you.

[Not_Mafia]

Just check your role PM

[the worst]

Kthxbye if you're still there have you explained your decision to no lynch?

I am behind af but this is something I'd like to read during catch up

[Beefster]

VOTE: Kthxbye

[Kthxbye]

Kthxbye if you're still there have you explained your decision to no lynch?

I am behind af but this is something I'd like to read during catch up

Because I think acry is scum as fuck. This hasn't changed.

[Kthxbye]

also, I'm done interacting with NM

[Mathdino]

I ask myself: Am I so policy bloodlusted that I'm willing to policy lynch someone I'm townreading by mechanics and association...

HMMMMMM...

Nah still not down with mastina lynch sorry. Ignore her posts and lynch her partners first IMO.

[Not_Mafia]

I have cramp in my scrolling finger

[BuJaber]

Okay

@NM - how do you know acryon is town? Since it's a complete war right now I don't think it's time to hide this. I am leaning towards lynching acryon first and if he flips town I will then sheep you on subsequent days. If you can make this decision easier that'd be appreciated.

@Mom - I can't speak for anyone else but I'm pretty bad with abbreviations and I tried to look for some on wiki but didn't find answers so please for my benefit can you not use them or tell me what they mean whenever you use them for the first time. For now what is OV? What is WK?

@TW - does later mean today or on later days? Because if you have any info that tells us carrot's alignment it would be really helpful.

@kthx - I did something but my role is useless except that I can confirm one specific very conditional night action claim. Nobody has claimed such a claim.

Acryon is the only lynch that makes sense to me. Lynching carrot only has positive consequences for town if she flips scum. If she flips town it doesn't automatically mean the 3 people she is scumreading are scum. Also right now it seems like a case of she said - she said.

Compare that with acryon lynch - if he flips town I would townread the fuck out of NM. If he flips town carrot is lynched next for sure. If he flips town I'm sure we can go back and find a lot of posts indicating people knew this would happen.
If he flips scum we pretty much have found the entire scunteam. As in this gambit by A50 and mom becomes clear as day.

Those are the objective reasons for lynching acryon over mastina.

Now for the subjective:
-For mastina to be town she would have had to plan that whole episode she did in town 1. That would suggest to me that she wouldn't be flailing now. When you have planned out exactly how you will get townread to that level of detail you don't just suddenly flail and make mistakes and say inconsistent things (do you have a protective or an investigative? Because you said investigative at some point I'm pretty sure). We ALL KNOW FOR A FACT that no lynch was the worst option for scum. She really doesn't need to be so aggressively scumreading acryon and pushing for no lynch just to be townread (WHILE GAMBLING ON THE FACT THAT TOWN WOULD NOT INVESTIGATE HER IN A ROLE MADNESS GAME). There is no version of this game where mastina is scum and I am willing to not only lose the game defending her but I am willing to quit mafia scum for a whole year if she is scum. It would mean I don't know how to play.

Mastina - Strong as fuck townread right now
Beef - strongish townread
MD - nothing changed since Day 1. Townread

Kthx, TW - townlean
NM - scumlean


Acryon - scum

Mom, A50 - strongish scumread



NM's answer to my question above MIGHT change things but I highly doubt it. Anyone not voting for acryon is scum.

VOTE: acryon

Good luck town. Scum would not have exposed themsleves if they aren't confident they can win. So town have to fight tooth and nail to win.



In my mind I can't understand anything that scum is doing this game. Regardless of who they are they are playing so out in the open JUST to be scumread? Like the only thing I can think of is too scummy to be scum as the defence. (This applies to anyone that flips scum between A50, mom, NM, Math, Mastina).

Seriously Mastina don't be scum. I would hate to quit this game. But fuck it if after several years of playing I can't make basic mafia analysis I don't deserve to play. I mean it I'll quit if you flip scum.

[BuJaber]

I forgot IB. Honestly I can't read that hydra so nullread with a slight townlean by PoE.

[Not_Mafia]

I can't say until after he flips

Also pls don't quit

[BuJaber]

My last question should read "JUST to be townread"

[BuJaber]

I can't say until after he flips

Also pls don't quit

I really want to believe you. Like for some reason for the first time ever I actually have a gut read on you but the facts are contradicting it. My scumlean isn't based on your posts; it's based only on the fact that I can't believe acryon is town anymore.

[BuJaber]

Anyway easy solution.. vote acryon.

[Mathdino]

have you noticed that basically no one has given credence to A50 scumread for the past 2 days

it looks like A50 is going through the motions of being good-at-scumhunting-A50 tbh

but he's not actually doing much, or making waves, he's kinda just along for the ride

[Mathdino]

i think a50's defence of marangal against mastina is alignment informed, as is his push to get her lynched

But I think I know what you're doing! You're rolefishing, aren't you? You pushed Dino until he claimed and then found the BG unworthy of the lynch/NK. You probably caught Icon crumbing (you did admit you knew he was a backup JOAT) so you shot him. You probably are pushing me to get a claim and evaluate whether my role is worthy of being the N2 NK. Well, guess what? I'm not going to give you a claim even of I was run to L-1.

i also believe a50 knows better than this

there are many cases as to why mastina is scum

but not_fucking_mafia has a better case than "oh yeah mastina is rolefishing by pressuring people hard enough that they claim"

[BuJaber]

I previously explained my thoughts on lurkers this game.

So by PoE:
Kthx - townlean after they started posting
NM - I'm having an inner conflict with could be anything
Paradox was a lurker who flipped town.
LUV was a lurker who when he posted pinged me for a reason I can't explain. Just didn't feel right about him. So that slot for me is almost guaranteed scum.


Pedit - well obviously I disagree about reasons to scumread mastina (except if she did lie about the JOAT) but yeah that bit about her pushing people to claim is bs. The part he bolded from her quote does not read like a push and even if it did it's a very weak push .. no where near to "pressuring"

[Not_Mafia]

i think a50's defence of marangal against mastina is alignment informed, as is his push to get her lynched

But I think I know what you're doing! You're rolefishing, aren't you? You pushed Dino until he claimed and then found the BG unworthy of the lynch/NK. You probably caught Icon crumbing (you did admit you knew he was a backup JOAT) so you shot him. You probably are pushing me to get a claim and evaluate whether my role is worthy of being the N2 NK. Well, guess what? I'm not going to give you a claim even of I was run to L-1.

i also believe a50 knows better than this

there are many cases as to why mastina is scum

but not_fucking_mafia has a better case than "oh yeah mastina is rolefishing by pressuring people hard enough that they claim"

Wanna help me lynch her?