Open 714: Tit for Tat [Game Over]

[pinturicchio]

@Pin:

But then if we followed you and voted A50 then presumably that would also draw out a claim, so...

I'm voting for the player who I now think is the most probable scum of all; if you wanna follow, that's up to you. I'm playing my game now that I'm certainly a dead man walking.

[Almost50]

@Dino: NO! We lynch Pintu in hopes we catch the RoleCop NOW! We vig mutant. Thank you.

[pinturicchio]

This is Almost's ego finally reaching critical mass. I knew he wouldn't stay silent for too long, especially after he let Dino build it up to be shot Night one by the mafia instead of him.

Pintu, you also have to realize the Vigilante DOES have a mind of their own too. They may very well shoot someone elsa.

Sure, but Vig SHOULD shoot me, as it's better to shoot a VT claim than someone who could be a PR. It's the best for the team, and I'm going to fuck up the vig if he doesn't following the best for the team and trying to be the hero. The ONLY way I survive this is if 1. The JK REALLY thinks I'm town, which I really don't know, or 2. If we get 2 more claims, one of those gets lynched and the other looks scummier than me. I don't expect neither of those happening

[pinturicchio]

@Dino: NO! We lynch Pintu in hopes we catch the RoleCop NOW! We vig mutant. Thank you.

You keep building your case from a wrong argument, you're really helpful!

[Luca Blight]

I'm thinking lynch Anen - vig Pin is probably the best course of action here.

F*ck knows what the vc is, though.

[Luca Blight]

Pin, when it looks as though you're about to die it's always good to give a final reads list - if you flip Town then it can be something useful to refer to.

[pinturicchio]

Sorry Luca, I'm tired of this bullshit, not giving my thoughts again to not be useful as it had been the entire game. People like NSG and A50 comes from nowhere, starts a wagon without arguments and now I'm 99% dead. Want some quick thoughts? You are locktown, win the game for us and keep pushing those who are playing like shit.

[Creature]

I think mutant is town, but whatever.

[Creature]

Damn, I wasn't feeling well to play the game today.

[Luca Blight]

I don't get why we're no longer lynching Anen - the plan was to get two wagons, which we've got, so why now are we pushing a third?

It's in danger of turning farcical.

[Mathdino]

ok fine
mutant doesn't have enough scum meta for me to differentiate here

VOTE: Aneninen
we can do this

[JaydragonKing]

Be sure to give us a vote count so no one accidentally hammers by the way, Dino.

[Mathdino]

do i look like the master of votecounts to you

i didn't even notice pintu voting mutant lol

[TheGoldenParadox]

Be sure to give us a vote count so no one accidentally hammers by the way, Dino.

you do realize that redflavor is the mod

[Gamma Emerald]

I voted mutant PRECISELY to see how pintu will react when the wagon built on, and I wanted you to sheep me to build it up, only you beat me to it, and I assumed you were thinking the same thing I was thinking!

I'm considering this possibility actually but I still want that countercase

[Gamma Emerald]

@Dino: NO! We lynch Pintu in hopes we catch the RoleCop NOW! We vig mutant. Thank you.

Why would Pin be the rolecop in this situation? If he's trying to redirect off of mutant would mutant be the more likely RC?

[Gamma Emerald]

ok fine
mutant doesn't have enough scum meta for me to differentiate here

VOTE: Aneninen
we can do this

Read on mutant without meta? Cmon you should think it through more man

[Luca Blight]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Anen

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I believe the vc is this:

jmo16mla

(1): Creature

Aneninen

(3): Paradox, Math, Luca Blight

mutantdevle

(2): Aneninen, Jay

Mathdino

(1): Gamma

JaydragonKing

(1): jmo16mla

pinturicchio

(3): northsidegal, mutantdevle, Almost50

Almost50

(1): Pintu

Not Voting

: no-one

[Gamma Emerald]

why am I on math
VOTE: mutantdevle

[Luca Blight]

I think I made a mistake there, I'll go back and check again.

[Luca Blight]

I believe this is correct now:

jmo16mla

(1): Creature

Aneninen

(3): Paradox, Math, Luca Blight

mutantdevle

(3): Aneninen, Gamma, Jay

JaydragonKing

(1): jmo16mla

pinturicchio

(3): northsidegal, mutantdevle, Almost50

Almost50

(1): Pintu

Not Voting

: no-one

[Aneninen]

Mobilepost.

Can someone summarize the cases behind the wagons for me, please?

By the way, I'm busy IRL. That's why I'm not too active. You can check my other games to confirm this.

[Luca Blight]

I believe Math started your wagon - something about people not pushing your wagon when they could have, meaning you must be scum. I don't particularly agree with this, but I think you're a good chance to flip scum for my own reasons which I covered in my ISO'ing, which I guess boils down to little content despite some big looking posts, and some dubious reasoning behind your reads. Add to that throwing the toys out of your pram after being wagoned - it's not something that I saw as a Townie reaction.

Pin - NSG started the wagon with little or no reasoning, from what I can remember. What generally seemed to spark it was his comment that he didn't want to vote you for fear it might risk Jay, who he's not even townreading. I've personally been very torn on Pin throughout, but now he's claimed VT he's fair game for the vig.

Mutant - Math/A50 for some reason wanted to start this wagon up, despite already having the two wagons we required. I don't remember much reasoning, other than your reaction seemed town to Math which meant either me or Mutant could be scum...I've personally been torn on Mutant but his recent posting seems townie.

[Luca Blight]

Actually, upon re-reading I no longer find Mutant's recent posts Townie: His vote on Anen really reads as though he's trying to distance himself from a mislynch.

His reasoning for suddenly being happy with his vote when initially he wasn't seems jumbled as well, for example; pointing out that Pin hasn't particularly scumread Anen yet voted him, but that's stripping away the context that people were being encouraged to sheep - which is why Mutant himself reluctantly voted Anen in the first place.

[Creature]

mutantdevle(3): Aneninen, Gamma, Jay

Looks like a scum counterwagon.