Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Jodaxq]

No one seems to care about my softing so I'll put it like this:

Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town? My first thought would be that, like Shaziro speculated, there's a mafia group that can obtain a religious victory. This person tried to convert brass, but was either blocked because of A50's move or less likely, brass was converted to the bad religion and is keeping his mouth shut about it. What do you all think?

[Almost50]

Can we all unvote please till WC is figured out?

By my count, the leading wagon has 4 votes out of 9 needed to lynch. There are 3 other wagons with 1 vote each.

However, I agree the leading wagon isn't a good choice for the Town, and -of anything- Gamma should be investigated tonight before we all go gung ho on him.

[brassherald]

No one seems to care about my softing so I'll put it like this:

Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town? My first thought would be that, like Shaziro speculated, there's a mafia group that can obtain a religious victory. This person tried to convert brass, but was either blocked because of A50's move or less likely, brass was converted to the bad religion and is keeping his mouth shut about it. What do you all think?

I didn't want to out what you were hinting at there, but I really have no clue what the other person would be, I am Taoist now.

[Almost50]

Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town?

Why didn't you say so? All the while I thought you were only talking about me.

OK, some protective could have tried to protect the IC, although that would probably imply they were not reading and didn't understand the resolutions. I wouldn't expect Scum to pay brass a visit last night because he was protected and thus NK immune. He had a confirmed role for anyone to try and find that out too.

I suggest you use your own best judgement as to whether the slot in question was active enough (and has shown comprehension) or not. If they were and did, you may ask them for an explanation. If not, then I'd just assume inattentive protective.

[Jodaxq]

No one seems to care about my softing so I'll put it like this:

Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town? My first thought would be that, like Shaziro speculated, there's a mafia group that can obtain a religious victory. This person tried to convert brass, but was either blocked because of A50's move or less likely, brass was converted to the bad religion and is keeping his mouth shut about it. What do you all think?

I didn't want to out what you were hinting at there, but I really have no clue what the other person would be, I am Taoist now.

This exactly. I had no idea what it could have been until the religion mechanic came to light, so I believe it is tied to that. Assuming A50 and pidgey are town religion spreaders, I think a third is very likely to be anti-town. They cannot be a hider as I tracked them.

[Venmar]

Whoever speculated that religion works like a fruit vendor and AD's post about religion based resolutions...there's a happy medium between the two.

Well you know what we can do?

@Mod can scum use a personal action and perform the night kill during the same night generally?

No.

[Jodaxq]

Someone, who is not A50, targeted Brass last night. Is this anti-town?

Why didn't you say so? All the while I thought you were only talking about me.

OK, some protective could have tried to protect the IC, although that would probably imply they were not reading and didn't understand the resolutions. I wouldn't expect Scum to pay brass a visit last night because he was protected and thus NK immune. He had a confirmed role for anyone to try and find that out too.

I suggest you use your own best judgement as to whether the slot in question was active enough (and has shown comprehension) or not. If they were and did, you may ask them for an explanation. If not, then I'd just assume inattentive protective.

@Gamma Emerald: why did you visit Brassherald last night?

[Venmar]

Votecount 2.1

[1]

Nero Cain:

BuJaber

[0] Kiana Kaslana:

[0] brassherald:

[1]

Bujaber:

Almost50

[0] Kokichi Oma:

[0] Chara:

[4]

Gamma Emerald:

Nero Cain, marshy, Chara, Titus

[0] Klazam:

[0] Titus:

[0] Shaziro:

[0] ActionDan:

[0] Joey_:

[0] pidgey:

[0] jodaxq:

[1]

almost50:

shaziro

[0] marshy:

[0] ranmaru:

Not Voting

• Kiana Kaslana, brassherald, Kokichi Koma, Klazam, ActionDan, Joey_, pidgey, Jodaxq, ranmaru, Gamma Emerald

Deadline

• In (expired on 2018-03-27 09:00:00)
  
• Tuesday, March 27th @9:00am PST

Mod Notes:

• With 17 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.
  
• Titus is V/LA until Sunday

--Will be updating the OP with content shortly, doing catchup!--
--Also, for Co-Modding consistency sake, Maestro will be doing the WC exclusively himself and I the Votecounts, so that we don't step over each other's toes. He should be in soon with an update.

[Kokichi Oma]

Yes, gamma will be lynched later today regardless. But WC is more important right now.

[Chara]

Joda: 0% chance brass was converted to an alignment that isn't town. i'd ask more but i'd rather Gamma just answered your question.

[Chara]

UNVOTE:

[Kiana Kaslana]

Hello everyone! That was a great ending to yesterday!

Disappointed that the scumkills last night both were my townreads, and proving my townreads were wrong. Both scum deaths were even from different scumteams, ew! That explains why I don't have good scumreads this game, but, at least, I knew I was having problems during the fact! It was a self-checking alarm. Comes in useful.

Gamma, is likely scum, yes. He is acting too differently from Be Yourself Mafia.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
HEAL: Brassherald

[BuJaber]

There could easily be a third scum team of 2

Pagan does -not- mean no religion.

considering three different flavours of religion, i don't think there's a religion based mafia. it just seems odd for flavour that three different religions would be united under one banner.

social commentary.

Bujaber: the fact that Kokichi is so scummy to you that anyone defending him must be scum is baffling to me. especially since your main argument was he was scum not for his play, but because dunker voted him for leader.

You misunderstood me. My scumread on koki is independent. It is partially connected to dunk yes, but not connected to the koki defenders (tm).

What I am saying is regardless of koki's alignment the number of koki defenders (tm) is way too high for me to think that all of them are uninformed townies. There is definitely at least one scum among them because that just makes logical sense in this game. It would really be a good idea to go back and reread and compile a list of anyone who is defending him or strongly townreading him or even more suspicious the ones changing the subject by saying "that's what koki does it's NAI" which woukd be the easiest way for scum to look like they're contributing to koki reads. That is what I plan to do this weekend.

[BuJaber]

A50 I am gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you did in fact mix me up with someone else because I take offence to that shit.

[Kiana Kaslana]

You got the moves, like buJaber; you got the moves, like buJaber, ooh~~

[Chara]

BuJaber: from what i know about Kokichi, and from how he's playing this game regardless of what i know about him, i very strongly believe he's town. it doesn't surprise me at all to see other players townreading him.

[Chara]

this argument makes even less sense in multiball.

[brassherald]

@Jo

Not that I distrust you, but since you are making a claim, can you just full claim your role? Like is it just a tracker?

[BuJaber]

BuJaber: from what i know about Kokichi, and from how he's playing this game regardless of what i know about him, i very strongly believe he's town. it doesn't surprise me at all to see other players townreading him.

I respect and value your opinion.

I accept that this game will be a sort of rite of passage. I'll learn more about you guys and you'll learn more about me.

Right now I'm not seeing your perspective and frankly I can't fully trust you mean what you say until you flip town.

[Klazam]

Venmar: i read that as the bodyguard works night 2 onward, but could Elbirn have bodyguarded someone on night 1 and died that way?

No. Elbirn's role would not have protected on Night 1, but would have Night 2 and onwards.

(Votecount on the way)

MOD- Ok, but he could have died if his target on N1 was scum, yes?

[Chara]

I respect and value your opinion.

I accept that this game will be a sort of rite of passage. I'll learn more about you guys and you'll learn more about me.

Right now I'm not seeing your perspective and frankly I can't fully trust you mean what you say until you flip town.

you're a delight to play with, you know that?

alright, i accept it. i'll towncase Kokichi if he's in danger of being lynched, but for now it's fine. i guess i should do that if i want him runner up, possibly.

[BuJaber]

There you go.

Want to tackle world hunger next?

I just remembered that our delegates aren't 'used up' when we vote for host. Was trying to be clever with it.

HEAL: Host: Brass

Shaz's whole reason for brass being runner up was a misunderstanding. I don't know why we shouldn't vote for brass again. We can change the runner up if people didn't like titus.

[Chara]

our delegates are used up, if you mean that you can't change the vote once the delegate is cast.

[BuJaber]

No for some reason I forgot we get them back again to vote for resolutions.. that's why I only used one earlier to 'save' the second.

[brassherald]

Hot take. What if Religion makes neighbors?