VARSOON VARIETY HOUR : GAME SCRAPPED

[Varsoon]

"Careless, like a child with fire, so was I with time."

-Teferi

VOTECOUNT 1.18

Shining Dreamers (5):

Creature, [Champion of the Parish], Purple Heart, Venmar, Bronya Zaychik

Skybird (2):

Shining Dreamers, Almost50

Micc (1):

Maid Cafe

Maid Cafe (1):

Skybird

Chara (1):

Iconeum

OnTheMark (1):

baku and munna

Iconeum (1):

Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (6):

Reasonably Rational, SnarkySnowman, Dunnstral, Micc, Chara, OnTheMark

Creatures (2):

Elemental, Mother of Runes

With 17 Alive, it takes 9 to Lynch.
Deadline

:(expired on 2018-03-27 20:30:00)

Mother of Runes has Protection from Black.
Creatures in play: (Champion of the Parish) (Elemental) (Mother of Runes)

Spoiler: List of all Spells in play

Champion of the Parish
Creature
CREATURE SPELLS MAY BE CAST DURING ANY PHASE. THIS SPELL COSTS one White mana to cast.
Creature spells have public effects and stay in effect until removed from the game. This creature gains votes equal to the number of creatures you control. This creature's total casting cost is equal to the number of creatures you control. I stand for every cobbler, tamer, and fool in this town--and they stand for me.

Elemental
Creature
Creature spells have public effects and stay in effect until removed from the game. This Creature may vote.

Mother of Runes
Creature
Creature SPELLS MAY BE CAST DURING ANY PHASE. This spell costs one White mana to cast.
Creature spells have public effects and stay in effect until removed from the game. When you cast this Spell, choose a color and target a Creature. Until the end of the next Night Phase, that Creature is immune to Spells and effects of that color. You may repeat this ability at the start of each Day phase that Mother of Runes is in play.

[Gamma Emerald]

Venmar, I don't want to be in any townblock.

@Alisae: IDK, I made a post listing peeps who I wanted to just trust unconditionally and asked if anybody thought that would lead to losing(which has nothing to do with my reads, just people I wanted to win with on a personal level, so you'd be getting added to that list. ), other people have put together their own little town groupings, but we haven't really come to a consensus.

-Cerb

If the hood was like "Oh this person gets to be in a hood" and the hood was dif from roles then yes your argument works but if the neighbor part is part of the role it doesn't.
Get what I mean
~Maki

...
role != alignment cmon guys
Now that Mathblade explain the actual math his argument makes sense, he's doing probabilities of sampling with removal

[Gamma Emerald]

first post should be there but I wanted to say something like "lol" to that

[Gamma Emerald]

Right now (EoP 21) This is where I stand:

1 Chara
2 Creature
3 OnTheMark
4 Taly
5 Bronya Zaychik (Hydra: Titus & Kiana Kaslana)
6 Maid Cafe (Hydra: Maki & Beeboy)
7 Iconeum
-8- Reasonably Rational (Hydra: Cerberus v666 & Drixx)
9 Baku and Munna (Hydra: randomidget & Shiro)
10 Venmar
11 Skybird

Would lynch anyone below the RR slot.

Tibor/Micc/SS/Dunn are unsorted (not enough content) and Shining is a slot I've decided to leave for others to sort.

Feel like you should be able to sort me with what I've posted. Was brass getting the way?

[Almost50]

Feel like you should be able to sort me with what I've posted. Was brass getting the way?

I eventually did and once again I'm leaning scum on you. You're not giving insight and seem to ask very surface level question avoiding to get in the real core. I'll admit you are posting more than your usual as scum but it's nothing productive and nothing that couldn't be easily faked. So there!

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Micc
ok give me your other reads.

Like, is Titus scum?

...
What the fresh hell, you'd better have developed this read more

[Gamma Emerald]

I have an odd feeling you guys wont let us have mana easily
Which I want to deal with sooner rather then later.

~B

Pedit: Micc

I don’t know who “you guys” is but I think the amount of antitown that happens if everyone has mana is disastrous. This game has is and always will be about voting.

I agree town having access to abilities is 100% bad.

~B

Actually the mechanics of creatures makes scum having mana dangerous

[Gamma Emerald]

Cerb you dont appear to be voting anyone

~B

And I still haven't heard from Drixx, whose agreement I need before doing something like enabling someone else's powers.

-Cerb

Doesn't Drixx normally participate more when in hydras because he tries to do more if someone's relying on him?

[Gamma Emerald]

Like I feel like that makes RR not scum because I don't think Drixx would ever do a double-letdown

[Reasonably Rational]

Cerb you dont appear to be voting anyone

~B

And I still haven't heard from Drixx, whose agreement I need before doing something like enabling someone else's powers.

-Cerb

Doesn't Drixx normally participate more when in hydras because he tries to do more if someone's relying on him?

Dunno. Sounds like something he(and I) would say, but I haven't followed him in any hydra other than with me, and I tend to participate far more than my partner in any hydra I'm in.

-Cerb

[Purple Heart]

Mastina has been posting stuff and it looks like she is scum hunting. But I have not been posting much in there due to some of the things she has said to me.

What ist his "scumhunting" you speak of and what are said "things" she said that caused you to not post in the hood.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lumia (Gamma) bad entrance is alarming. His SRs are also unfounded.

Would love to hear why. I feel like I have justification for my reads. Which ones are unfounded?

[Purple Heart]

I have an odd feeling you guys wont let us have mana easily
Which I want to deal with sooner rather then later.

~B

Pedit: Micc

I don’t know who “you guys” is but I think the amount of antitown that happens if everyone has mana is disastrous. This game has is and always will be about voting.

I agree town having access to abilities is 100% bad.

~B

Actually the mechanics of creatures makes scum having mana dangerous

GEE WIS WHAT A WONDERFUL CONTRIBUTION

--

Cerb you dont appear to be voting anyone

~B

And I still haven't heard from Drixx, whose agreement I need before doing something like enabling someone else's powers.

-Cerb

Doesn't Drixx normally participate more when in hydras because he tries to do more if someone's relying on him?

Drixx's lack of participation isn't AI lol.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thats not what makes me concerned.
What does make me concerned is that during the day, Micc can steal mana from people.
Say he makes me lose all of the mana I gain during the day and I had 3 mana.
He then gains 3 mana.

I probably fucked up in the first place by claiming I copied Micc but oh well.
If he's scum, now he's forced to target a scummy person and we can leash that.

Also if anyone wants to know why I targetted Micc, I targetted Micc because when I ISO'd him, his push on my predecessor looked really scummy to me. He was basicly pushing a lot of "facts" and it didn't really come across as a read. It felt like something that was really easy to justify a push off of.

Not to mention I feel like the strength of the read given how far the day has progressed is unnaturally strong.
Like, I read it and I am concerned about how he was able to form a read of that strength so early. It makes me feel like he already has all of the answers already.

Plus, 703 is actually bad imo. I disagree with claiming to spur discussion, but that IS a town motivated thought of wanting people to talk. And it completely feels like he's not even attempting to analyze Taly's motivation. Like, what does scum!Taly have from claiming that besides towncred? Why would scum!Taly claim it in the first place? Like, it doesn't make sense for him to claim that as scum at all imo.

The whole read to me feels unnatural and agenda based so...

Mhm, this actually seems reasonable to me, I think I was townreading Micc because I wanted to engage with him in a friendly manner but I think he never did talk with me.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey Alisae
Commenting on my content every time I make a post saying "oh wow look at how much this contributes //////sss" doesn't contribute anything either, it's just spamming
And Alisae you were in RFB Rematch where I learned about Drixx's habits so I really think it's pretty derpy and/or scummy of you to deny that

[Purple Heart]

Not a bad response actually...

[Purple Heart]

And Alisae you were in RFB Rematch where I learned about Drixx's habits so I really think it's pretty derpy and/or scummy of you to deny that

Though I regret to inform you that I don't really know/care about what you learned.
Like, its straight up not alignment indicative because life does indeed get in the way.

[Purple Heart]

Okay Gamma.
You can be town.
You do you.

[Almost50]

Lumia (Gamma) bad entrance is alarming. His SRs are also unfounded.

Would love to hear why. I feel like I have justification for my reads. Which ones are unfounded?

Check the ones you made upon your entrance. I did the catching up posts specifically so as I don't have to go back and reread and/or ISO someone, so please be a pal and ISO yourself.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma: re 651, wouldn't you knowing that nullufy it? I mean I don't usually read you based on activity myself, but rather on content and behaviour. Never realized you have a Creature'isque meta before.

Kinda? But I guess it used to be the case.

OK, this could be nothing. Nut Sky waited for mthe longest time to vote MC, but not until OTM had voted her already. I recall MC saying they wanted to be voted by someone who had zero votes on them?

What are you trying to say here?

Tibor is being interesting! I guess time will tell who else will fall for this. (or should I say "have told" but I just haven't got there yet)

How? And fall for what?

Is it bad I town read Dunnstral for the timing of his "hi" post?
Because I do and according to Maki that's really stupid

No, that's perfectly fine. Don't forget he used small letter too, so that means he

must be

town, actually.

Actually thanks for pointing me this way: wtf Maki when did you change your mind on that being stupid logic?

[Gamma Emerald]

Lumia (Gamma) bad entrance is alarming. His SRs are also unfounded.

Would love to hear why. I feel like I have justification for my reads. Which ones are unfounded?

Check the ones you made upon your entrance. I did the catching up posts specifically so as I don't have to go back and reread and/or ISO someone, so please be a pal and ISO yourself.

Okay sure thanks for pointing me to the location at least.

[Purple Heart]

OnTheMark
Chara
Maid Cafe (Hydra: Maki & Beeboy)
Creature
Almost50
Reasonably Rational (Hydra: Cerberus v666 & Drixx)
SnarkySnowman
Gamma Emerald
Purple Heart (Hydra: Alisae & Taly)
Skybird
Venmar

Iconeum
Shining Dreamers (Hydra: Yume & Mastina)
Baku and Munna (Hydra: Randomidget & Shiro)
Bronya Zaychik (Hydra: Titus & Kiana Kaslana)
Micc
Dunnstral

[Purple Heart]

VOTE: Micc
ok give me your other reads.

Like, is Titus scum?

...
What the fresh hell, you'd better have developed this read more

There is also 1440

These questions still stand.

Gamma

[...] What are your reads, and where is your vote if you think

baku and munna

is worth a wagon?

~ Taly

P-Edit
((Also, as the corresponding head to Alisae; I agree with the readslist in 2221))

[Purple Heart]

>_> Messed up quote there.

Gamma

[...] What are your reads, and where is your vote if you think

baku and munna

is worth a wagon?

~ Taly

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait which ones still? I didn't give scumreads until I found something scummy. Are you talking about the early OTM suspicion, Iconeum suspicion, something else, or some combination?