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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:25 am

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In post 721, Centipede Syndrome wrote:for those who brought it up: yes, i'm avoiding this game. Elli isn't here right now and i don't care to put work in yet. carry on.
basically just checking in to make sure we're not being wagoned and i don't need to obvtown yet.
looks like we aren't. cool.
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You are being wagoned and you need to obvtown now. We need you. Kiana and Maria need you!

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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:26 am

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In post 724, Kuuhaku wrote:
In post 722, Mathdino wrote:you overestimate your own read accuracy significantly more than RC does, kiana

like you're slowly turning into the new him in that regard
Coming from a scumread, I'll take this comment with a bucketload of salt.
have you ever actually calculated your own read accuracy

PoE does 5 times as much work as actual scumhunting, which, for the majority of players, results in = random reads

yours included
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:28 am

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In post 726, Mathdino wrote:
In post 724, Kuuhaku wrote:
In post 722, Mathdino wrote:you overestimate your own read accuracy significantly more than RC does, kiana

like you're slowly turning into the new him in that regard
Coming from a scumread, I'll take this comment with a bucketload of salt.
have you ever actually calculated your own read accuracy

PoE does 5 times as much work as actual scumhunting, which, for the majority of players, results in = random reads

yours included
Yes, I have, it's above 80%. Don't believe me? Check my completed games where I was town. The base rate where a random number generator is used to determine reads is 33%, which is most scum:town ratios. Weaker players are worse than that.

I don't understand what your second and third sentence means.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:28 am

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In post 725, Kuuhaku wrote:You are being wagoned and you need to obvtown now. We need you. Kiana and Maria need you!

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ugh, but i don't want to. it's not even a wagon based on my play, it's some bull about Pine picking Ellibereth over every other player despite no indication Pine is even aware of our existence.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:29 am

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In post 728, Centipede Syndrome wrote:
In post 725, Kuuhaku wrote:You are being wagoned and you need to obvtown now. We need you. Kiana and Maria need you!

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ugh, but i don't want to. it's not even a wagon based on my play, it's some bull about Pine picking Ellibereth over every other player despite no indication Pine is even aware of our existence.
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:30 am

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i also haven't read half the thread. hahaha.

pedit: don't feel like it. :<
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:31 am

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I don't want Ellibereth I want Chara :[

I mean, Ellibereth is fun and nice and a friend of Chara is a friend of everyone! But! Chara! :[
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:32 am

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In post 727, Kuuhaku wrote:Yes, I have, it's above 80%. Don't believe me? Check my completed games where I was town. The base rate where a random number generator is used to determine reads is 33%, which is most scum:town ratios. Weaker players are worse than that.
i'm just gonna let everyone else deal with this

this is inaccurate on 3 different levels
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:34 am

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In post 730, Centipede Syndrome wrote:i also haven't read half the thread. hahaha.

pedit: don't feel like it. :<
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:35 am

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In post 732, Mathdino wrote:
In post 727, Kuuhaku wrote:Yes, I have, it's above 80%. Don't believe me? Check my completed games where I was town. The base rate where a random number generator is used to determine reads is 33%, which is most scum:town ratios. Weaker players are worse than that.
i'm just gonna let everyone else deal with this

this is inaccurate on 3 different levels
I doubt anybody cares, to be honest. It's like, you asked me a question, I answered you, then when I gave an answer that you don't like, you go "nope, gonna let others deal with this."

Then why ask? :shifty:
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:35 am

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you'll get me! the game just started.

just ask Maria if i'm town or not and you'll be fine.

pedit: i'll play soon! i don't like being rushed.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:39 am

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@Alisae, there is a vote count error. Good friend Timmy didn't pick up Mulch's extremely deformed vote for Ginggie here. He is no longer voting for Centipede Syndrome.

In post 574, Mulch wrote:VOTE: ggin
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:40 am

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In post 734, Kuuhaku wrote:
In post 732, Mathdino wrote:
In post 727, Kuuhaku wrote:Yes, I have, it's above 80%. Don't believe me? Check my completed games where I was town. The base rate where a random number generator is used to determine reads is 33%, which is most scum:town ratios. Weaker players are worse than that.
i'm just gonna let everyone else deal with this

this is inaccurate on 3 different levels
I doubt anybody cares, to be honest. It's like, you asked me a question, I answered you, then when I gave an answer that you don't like, you go "nope, gonna let others deal with this."

Then why ask? :shifty:
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1. i HAVE been checking your completed towngames, your scumread accuracy is not 80%. ELLIBERETH'S scumread accuracy isn't even 80%
if your townread accuracy is 80%, you are exactly average

2. random reads are 25% accurate on scumreads, 75% accurate on townreads

3. you don't seem to know what ratio means

4. you constantly act like you're some hot shit, SAY that you're some hot shit, and it's annoying as shit and i thought i'd get away from that kind of playstyle after RC got banned
like people call me egotistical but that's mostly because of confidence
i'm pretty honest about my reads accuracy and the possibility of being wrong
you're just... not

i asked because i was hoping we could talk about your self awareness for a second (something something read my article) but w/e

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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:43 am

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In post 736, Kuuhaku wrote:
@Alisae, there is a vote count error. Good friend Timmy didn't pick up Mulch's extremely deformed vote for Ginggie here. He is no longer voting for Centipede Syndrome.

In post 574, Mulch wrote:VOTE: ggin
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:50 am

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In post 737, Mathdino wrote:
In post 734, Kuuhaku wrote:
In post 732, Mathdino wrote:
In post 727, Kuuhaku wrote:Yes, I have, it's above 80%. Don't believe me? Check my completed games where I was town. The base rate where a random number generator is used to determine reads is 33%, which is most scum:town ratios. Weaker players are worse than that.
i'm just gonna let everyone else deal with this

this is inaccurate on 3 different levels
I doubt anybody cares, to be honest. It's like, you asked me a question, I answered you, then when I gave an answer that you don't like, you go "nope, gonna let others deal with this."

Then why ask? :shifty:
sigh

1. i HAVE been checking your completed towngames, your scumread accuracy is not 80%. ELLIBERETH'S scumread accuracy isn't even 80%
if your townread accuracy is 80%, you are exactly average

2. random reads are 25% accurate on scumreads, 75% accurate on townreads

3. you don't seem to know what ratio means

4. you constantly act like you're some hot shit, SAY that you're some hot shit, and it's annoying as shit and i thought i'd get away from that kind of playstyle after RC got banned
like people call me egotistical but that's mostly because of confidence
i'm pretty honest about my reads accuracy and the possibility of being wrong
you're just... not

i asked because i was hoping we could talk about your self awareness for a second (something something read my article) but w/e

you're fitting right in on this site
Again, if you don't like my answer, why ask? Who said that Ellibereth's scumread accuracy had to be a benchmark for me? I certainly didn't mention him at all.

Well, I'm so sorry that I made a mistake with regard to the ratio of scum:town in a game, where it's 25% instead of 33% (1:4 instead of 1:3). Sue me.

I haven't played any game with you besides Be Yourself Mafia, which, RC was making a mess of and so I ejected out of there ASAP, so, I don't know what your problem is. You were scum MVP #2, just behind RC who was scum MVP #1. You voted town on so many occasions and in fact was responsible for the junked Lylo where you mislynched Eddie Cane who had correctly identified Cheeky as the last scum. I wasn't the one who raised this topic in the first place, nor had any intention to act like any "hot shit", you were the one who raised this topic entirely. :roll: I seriously do not think that you are in any position to lecture me.


All of that nonsense aside, congratulations on steering discussion onto more off-topic nonsense that is completely irrelevant to the current game at hand. Of all the 30 pages of wholesome content you could comment on, here you are trying to stir a pot and attempt to create disruption with a questionable topic, which, interestingly, literally nobody raised. First policy lynching, now this. Definitely behavior that allows for scum to hide, and objectively scum-wincon advancing behavior.

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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:54 am

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VOTE COUNT 1 . 8
  • mastina
    ------------ 5 ( (19), (51), (106), (8), (5) )
    L- 4

    Ginngie
    ------------ 4 ( (45), (49), (82), :dead: (47) :dead:, (47) )
    L- 5

    BBmolla
    ------------ 2 ( (10), (59) )
    L- 7

    Lady Lamdadelta
    ---- 1 ( (8) )
    L- 8

    Mathdino
    ----------- 1 ( (89) )
    L- 8

    Centipede Syndrome
    - 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    Implosion
    ---------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    Kuuhaku
    ------------ 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    shos
    --------------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    DrippingGoofball
    --- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    xRECKONERx
    --------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    Aristophanes
    ------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    Firebringer
    -------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    Parama
    ------------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    MariaR
    ------------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    Mulch
    -------------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9

    northsidegal
    ------- 0 ( No One )
    L- 9



    Not Voting
    --------- 5 ( :good: camn(26) :good: , shos(0), Aristophanes(1), Centipede Syndrome(13), Implosion(17) )
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to Lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2018-04-21 19:20:58)
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:56 am

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- "If you don't like my answer, why ask": because i wanted to see whether you had, and if you had, how accurate your self appraisal actually is

- oh fuck off, i nailed NSG and mulch. you weren't ejected, you threw a tantrum. i voted against my reads that lylo because i sheep the dead as a matter of principle
people don't sheep the dead nearly enough on MS
i assumed that RC would have a correct read on CT given his history of correctly reading her

- you're asking me counterquestions when i respond to you yet you want me to not respond to you?

80% scumread accuracy is such a meme

i'm waiting to talk about my scumreads for a thing to finish in a few days or so

D1 is literally "find a lynch that isn't shit, hope ellibereth is town, and wait for him to solve the game"

so far shit lynches would be
{Mulch, NSG, Parama (why the fuck are people scumreading this), Aristophanes, Kiana} and probably {BBMolla}
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:01 am

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hilariously cluttered ISO but on review firebringer is town as well
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:03 am

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hey fuckos

1. BIRTHDAYS
Congratulations to: Ellibereth

2. I'm hungover and won't be around today either kekerino.

3. Haven't talked to them but I'm guessing the shit about me at least partially demotivated chara. Y'all are going to mainly be getting them for a few days and you're going to happy with it. Y'all are not going to bother them to ask me to run anything on anyone. Y'all aren't going to bother them for my reads because I'm not telling them things until they try first unless they *really* want me to *pending review tomorrow*. I will be doing my thing today in my pace and sharing what I want when I feel like it and this game will be broken today so we can celebrate a lovely victory before any children are born. Good talk.

4. For old time's sake - Parama and DGB are town.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:04 am

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In post 741, Mathdino wrote:- "If you don't like my answer, why ask": because i wanted to see whether you had, and if you had, how accurate your self appraisal actually is

- oh fuck off, i nailed NSG and mulch. you weren't ejected, you threw a tantrum. i voted against my reads that lylo because i sheep the dead as a matter of principle
people don't sheep the dead nearly enough on MS
i assumed that RC would have a correct read on CT given his history of correctly reading her

- you're asking me counterquestions when i respond to you yet you want me to not respond to you?

80% scumread accuracy is such a meme

i'm waiting to talk about my scumreads for a thing to finish in a few days or so

D1 is literally "find a lynch that isn't shit, hope ellibereth is town, and wait for him to solve the game"

so far shit lynches would be
{Mulch, NSG, Parama (why the fuck are people scumreading this), Aristophanes, Kiana} and probably {BBMolla}
And what exactly would the point of knowing about my self appraisal achieve? How does
your opinion
of my opinion of my read accuracy affect your reads and the way you play in this game?

I'm not going to shame you here and have no intention of doing so, but your statements regarding BYM are false. Anybody who wants to scrutinize that game can do so for themselves, and it's clear as day who contributed how much to a town / scum success in that game. You clearly have zero idea why I replaced out of all my games with RC. In any case, I don't see how this discussion is game relevant.

I, however, see your persistence in continuing game-irrelevant discussions for the entirety of your posts up till this point.

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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:08 am

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if you don't want me to continue the discussion stop fucking asking me questions then

i follow your games onsite, i know exactly why you replaced out of all your games (welcome back to an alisae large theme btw), and my statements of having nailed NSG from the first 5 pages are entirely correct

you literally started a discussion with "HEY MATHDINO YOURE GOING TO ASK WHY IM SCUMREADING YOU AND HERES WHY"

to which my response is, i don't really give a fuck, you townslipped and you have a way higher opinion of yourself than what is in any way realistic, and it's like i'm playing with another 2018 RC

all i wanted to talk to you about in the first place was the alignment choice meta thing
i suspect that alisae might have balanced the game in response to the skill level of the scumteam
but i really don't think alisae is "playing to town wincon" like camn is
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:10 am

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i'm reading what was posted since i went to sleep and boy is there way too much nothing about trying to outsmart the setup
i'm playing this game like a standard game in that there are town and there are mafia and nothing else is even remotely as important as lynching the mafia
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:11 am

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IS THIS JUST FANTASY?
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:16 am

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i get the distinct impression i'm going to hate playing with mathdino but i dunno how it will affect my ability to read him. hopefully he gets vigged or nked before i have to sort him, that'd be best for us both
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:17 am

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hate to say it but centipede slot is actually very likely scum, still keeping on ginseng for now though
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