Newbie 1859 (Game Over)

[skitter30]

I think that pin's hypothesis-testing method is very backwards but I actually think he's very, very probably town despite that.

Also, @pin, just going to point out for like the third time that your narrative of "scum!me pushing a mislynch on drixx but panicking when he got to l-1" does not make sense. Like I couldn't have been protecting my partner since he flipped town, and like scum don't randomly panic at mislynches happening; that's basically like the goal of the game from their POV. It doesn't make sense for scum!me to panic at a day1 mislynch on the IC handed to me on a silver platter that I was never going to be blamed for given the gamestate and how the wagon formed.

Also I hate much of what oxy has said on this page.

[Scioness Sajj]

Also I hate much of what oxy has said on this page.

So do I but I'm not sure it makes him scum. Could you give me summary of your oxy read?

[Scioness Sajj]

I wish that somebody could give me a scum motivation for skitter becuase I don't really see it

[skitter30]

Scum:

-> pushing sub-optimal gamestates (encouraging needless 1v1s; wanting to place people at L-1 to encourage them to post - yes I'm aware that there's controversy over this, yes I still think it was scum-motivated and that he was aiming to push a lynch on someone who wasn't active)

-> posts designed to appeal to people. (With math when he replaced jn; the LAMIST and town-circle posts early on; I still think he was trying to pocket pin early; in the past couple of pages he got pin to vote with him cuz pin wants oxy ro townread him)

-> I feel like he's looking for mislynches (his pin vote/unvote immediately after the first drixx wagon was atrocious; the drixx wagon; me right now - telling ruru he wants her to explore her read on you but at the same time pressuring people to end the day doesn't really match up and kinda feels like he's rushing the day)

[Scioness Sajj]

Alright, yeah.

Why has ruru juped so high, though? It feels to me like she is fencing (and will eventually get around to voting you).

[Scioness Sajj]

I mean in your lynch order

[Oxy]

Oooh I like the new avi, sajj!

[Scioness Sajj]

thanks, lol

I wanted something that reflects the gamestate

[Oxy]

oh, shit lol

[Scioness Sajj]

and yes I expect super silly scumreads from that statement coming my way

[Scioness Sajj]

maybe even a scumslip if im lucky

[skitter30]

Like there's no one else in the game whis done anything nearly as scummy to me, in both quantity and quality.

Also, I forgot to mention that he deflects away from questions he doesn't feel like answering. He's pretty smooth about it, and the game is moving fairly fast, but I'll eventually realize that he ignored something important from several pages back.

Ruru's vote on you didn't really feel fency to me though? It felt more like she actually thought this was a good idea? Given her trajectory on me scum!her could hop on my wagon easily, knowing it'll score a mislynch, but she doesn't because ...?

Also really, really don't think pin's last post comes from scum- although his understanding of the game is like ???? T
to me, it's been consistent this entire time; like the fact that he remembers exactly who he was townreading or scumreading at the time of the drixx wagon is kinda a towntell as scum!him would have had to fake those thoughts and then remember exactly what he faked two weeks later or however long it was, where as town!him could just report what he was thinking at the time.

Like the consistent detail indicates to me that he isn't faking his thoughts, even if I disagree with like all of it.

Oxy -> ofrzh/ruru -> pin -> scioness/nsg.

Kinda think scum is in the first three.

[Scioness Sajj]

Also, I forgot to mention that he deflects away from questions he doesn't feel like answering. He's pretty smooth about it, and the game is moving fairly fast, but I'll eventually realize that he ignored something important from several pages back.

oh honey tell me about it, haha
had to deal with that d1 and I'm still dealing with it now
I agree he is super difficult when somebody wants him to say things in his own words. like he either wants to stay untrackable or just things everybody should understand what he is saying.

Ruru's vote on you didn't really feel fency to me though? It felt more like she actually thought this was a good idea? Given her trajectory on me scum!her could hop on my wagon easily, knowing it'll score a mislynch, but she doesn't because ...?

Yeah I have went to reread it and it doesn't seem as fency as I remembered it.
She is stalling and wants to produce some towncred because both scum are on the wagon, perhaps? Like I have skimmed her ISO on me but it all is so flat. Busy for the sake of being busy it feels like.

[Oxy]

Skitter, assuming you're town (i know, a stretch~~~), why does ruru vote for sajj here?

[Oxy]

scum!ruru that is

[Scioness Sajj]

oxy i wanna talk to you about your thought process behind this question after skitter answers you

possible?

[Oxy]

of course

[Scioness Sajj]

okay, it's a deal

if you dodge once or assume i should understand what you are talking about

i will deathtunnel you

[ofrhz]

Ack, I no longer think skitter is scum

What motive does scum skitter have to vote for Oxy?

like assume skitter is scum. If ruru is town, then wouldn't she just go for the easy mislynch? There's definitely 4 people here who want to lynch ruru
If ruru is scum, wouldn't skitter bus ruru for the easy towncred?

....?

UNVOTE:

[Scioness Sajj]

??????????????

[ofrhz]

@pin, Oxy my conspiracy theorists - does that make sense? ^

[Oxy]

i guess what i mean is, even if scum!ruru doesn't want to get on the wagon with her partner, scum!ofrhz (or from your perspective scum!oxy) why doesn't she just allow pin and nsg, both of whom are predisposed to a skitter lynch, vote? Why does she demand that the day be extended until she can work through other angles?

p.edit I accept those conditions so long as you don't ask me to do a lot of secretarial work.

[ofrhz]

still think skitter is misreading Oxy though

[Scioness Sajj]

I mean it actually does make sense but

I don't know about those four people wanting to lynch ruru

[Scioness Sajj]

I think everybody is misreading skitter tbh

I get her

I really do