Open 719: Stack The Deck! (D4)

[Wisdom]

theres no downside to it, we know everyone's opinion before we do it

[Mathdino]

regardless of our opinions theres a non zero chance anyone could be scum and thus the kill is information

doesn't matter

the question is whether that chance that whichever of me/brass gets NK'd is scum

outweighs the extra percentage points of likelihood that a combined me/brass makes the correct decision in lylo

i believe brass and i are strong enough players (and i believe i'm personally extraverted enough) that having us both alive increases the chance that we make the right call

i'm making this call for the sake of dayplay

[Mathdino]

like you're basically advocating for a decision that FMPOV kills someone who's conftown

i believe my read on brass is good enough that he's essentially conftown

and if i die tonight, he's absolutely never getting lynched tomorrow anyway

you're speaking for a general POV when i'm speaking very specifically for this game

[Wisdom]

I'm talking about this specific game

we dont know for sure brass and you are town so no

both you and brass get to share your opinions today

[Mathdino]

neither of us are ever advocating for lynching the other

so our opinions are going to be on wisdom vs maria

then scum will get to NK whoever they think is more likely to make the wrong decision

no lynching benefits scum in this specific game.

[Wisdom]

brass said hes considering you

and even if he hadnt i dont care, you could still be scum pocketing him and advocating for this to secure your win

[Mathdino]

as either alignment, lynching me loses the game

me saying "i want brass alive because i think his reads are good" is not scum-indicative

you're correct though that removing brass is strictly disadvantageous for me

if you're scum, then that puts me in a lylo with maria who seems very likely to make the wrong decision here

[Wisdom]

dude we dont care about your pov

think about everyone, we dont know you or brass is town so we are not lynching when theres still information available

[Mathdino]

what you and maria know or don't know is irrelevant

brass should know i'm conftown and my read on brass is good here

[Wisdom]

he doesnt though and you arent

[Mathdino]

VOTE: Wisdom

not into this

no lynching is strictly suboptimal when there's conftown

i'm telling you brass is equivalent to conftown and none of the 3 of us are ever lynching him tomorrow

the only way he doesn't die tonight is if scum are sure he's going to make the wrong decision

me+brass making the call >>> the designated one of us making the call

[Wisdom]

well other than brass voting me and most likely losing the game theres no way to get a lynch today anyway so its useless to discuss it

[Mathdino]

Then why aren't you just taking control and no lynching
You don't fucking no lynch after everyone has given reads

[Wisdom]

i am no lynching

[Mathdino]

i mean why have you not done it already

the entire point of no lynching is to have scum remove someone from the lynchpool

HOW IS THERE ANY UNIVERSE WHERE BRASSHERALD IS IN THE LYNCHPOOL

[Wisdom]

there is no conftown in the game

brass is very likely town but not conftown

[Mathdino]

like fuck man if we were gonna no lynch after all this time of discussing our reads i would've lied about everything to try to fake out the kill

at this point we're too far gone

Edit: you're being purposefully obstinate and not addressing the actual point

is brassherald in the lynchpool, yes or no

[Wisdom]

yes everyone is in the lynchpool

i dont care about discussinf our reads

one more person dead is one more person who cant be scum

[MariaR]

I still think no lynching is the best because as said before no one here is clear and it's best to see what the kill is going to be

[MariaR]

For me it's not that brass is in the lynch pool or not it's would he die. That's the info I want

[Wisdom]

so math either maria quickhammers me or we nolynch

choose

[MariaR]

quickhammers you?

[MariaR]

I rather we not do anything at least until tomorrow so I can show brass my math stuff

[Mathdino]

wisdom i'm only wanting to lynch you because you insist on a plan that i know kills either myself or brass

[MariaR]

wisdom i'm only wanting to lynch you because you insist on a plan that i know kills either myself or brass

I'm doing the same thing so why aren't you voting me?