Mini 2004 - Birth of the Necromancer - [DERP! - MOD LOSES]

[Ankamius]

What post(s) are you scumreading Tywin for?

249/250 feel pretty fake

What post(s) are you scumreading Zito for?

[Wisdom]

all of them
nothing he's posted has felt town

[Wisdom]

but ive never played with him so maybe im disliking his playstyle

[Ankamius]

mm

I know Zito (kind of... well enough to have a basic idea of how he thinks) outside the game to believe that snarkiness is probably NAI. The hiding-reasons thing doesn't ping for me either since I operate similarly. Is there another link I'm missing regarding him, and what do you think about him pointing out the same posts from Tywin?

[Wisdom]

idk
i want to say it makes it less likely theyre both scum, but it's not impossible scum-zito thinks scum-tywin was too obvious there and points it out before anyone else does for the cred

[Ankamius]

I'm assuming there isn't a whole lot more in the game so far to base things off of for right now. If there's anything else in particular that's worth looking at then I'll go look, but I think this is enough to determine that reading through day 1 isn't going to be too insightful.

I'll be back tomorrow to give more thoughts.

[Beefster]

Official Vote Count 2-1

Tywin Lannister

(2): Wisdom, the worst

Papa Zito

(1): Kokichi Oma

Not Voting

(10): HarmlessZombie, Ankamius, Papa Zito, ActionDan, Tywin Lannister, brassherald, Eddie Cane, Nancy Drew 39, Sugar Cain, Srceenplay

With 13 voters, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-05-09 18:15:00)

Previous Vote Count

[Srceenplay]

Did anyone block someone?

My guess.

Guardian Angel wrote:
Hello, EeveeLution Army, you are Angela Nightingale, Town Guardian Angel

You have the following abilities:
Protection: Each night, you may choose a living player to save from being killed.

Eternal Calling: You continue to have protection abilities even after you have died.

You win when there are no living mafia members.

Please confirm that you have received this role PM by replying with your role and alignment.

The main game thread is here.

Angela's whole existence was in saving lives. It didn't matter what it costed or if it was even possible; she put everything she had into her patients.

Maybe check their iso for town reads?

[Eddie Cane]

someone will be able to communicate with the dead, mod meta. we will find out.

[Srceenplay]

Nice

[Srceenplay]

A doc that doesn’t go away is pretty sweet.

[Kokichi Oma]

She didnt out a TR so hopefully

[Srceenplay]

She didn’t talk much end of day iirc

[Tywin Lannister]

VOTE: Papa Zito

Going back to my original vote. Also, I don't really care if anyone thought my post about disliking Screen being allowed to hammer was fake, because it wasnt. Him hammering on page 10, prior to a claim or even multiple players posting yet, while he's given nothing in terms of content, is a joke. The fact that everyone ignores him even now is a ping. I don't know his meta, but that's not obv town play, so idk why he's being ignored. I'd like to see him actually give content, but nobody else seems to care. I wonder why?

Anyway, Evee obviously blocked the NK, barring scum all being MIA. They'd have been replaced if so though. What follows is pure WIFOM, but I haven't seen anything from Evee saying they TR anyone. Knowing that, I look at what I would do in their shoes. I can say for certain I'd not block for anyone who lynched me under the D1 circumstances, so I'd block elsewhere. I'd also probably not block for a lurker, so that leaves only a few choices. I'm almost positive someone on the Evee train is scum, but not everyone, so that leaves a few options. With that said, it's possible Zito was one of the choices Evee would protect though, but I assume not, considering I SR them.

Wisdom, is your sole SR on me for assuming my end of D1 post was fake? What happens if/when you realize it wasnt? Who do you SR then? Papa Zito? Who else?

[Tywin Lannister]

EeveeLution Army (7): Eddie Cane, Wisdom, the worst, Kokichi Oma, Nancy Drew 39, Sugar Cain, Srceenplay

I don't SR kokichi or Eddie. ND is still up in the air, but unless Evee was a scum- driven counter wagon to theirs, I also don't think theyre scum based on how fast that wagon formed. For me, that leaves Wisdom, the worst, Nero Cain, and Srcreenplay as possible scum. Obv not all though.

That leaves: me, brassherald, ActionDan, Papa Zito, MechaGoomba voting/Not voting elsewhere. Who did Ankarius replace in for? At least one scum are probably in this group.

Until Srceen give a actual content to prove otherwise, they land firmly in my scum pool for the B.S. hammer, plus the fact that nobody cares. I mostly TR wisdom and the worst D1 for the most part, so i leave them there for now. Actiondan didn't strike me as scum, but he's also been ignored. Mechagoomba and brassharald were MIA, and I don't remember seeing either of them all game. Idk which one was replaced, but I'm going to assume they replaced due to the usual: they rolled scum, freaked out about it, and then lurked until replaced. It happens almost every game, so Ankarius is a scum-lean for now.

For me, that leaves Papa Zito, Srceen, Ankarius, and whoever between Mecha/brass as possible scum. The issue with this is only Srceen (of this group) was involved with lynching Evee, so unless scum stayed off it almost entirely (possible with how fast the wagon formed), it's probably not correct. I don't like screen's play though, and being ignored by everyone pings me way too much. Since I don't have meta to look at, I see it at pure scum play for the opportune hammer, knowing nobody would care. Any scum would do that, assuming they knew nobody would SR them for it.

Question now is who would Evee protect? Zito is a distinct possibility, although he just ignored Evee while letting the wagon happen uncontested. If he TR Evee, why didn't he say something? He stuck with ND, then added kokichi as their partner. If ND IS scum, that's possible, but it seems a stretch imo. The question would be who created the Evee counter-wagon in that case, since any scum mates of ND would be looking to do that if possible. Kokichi was 4th on the wagon, while Eddie, Wisdom, and the worst were the first three. ND/kokichi were 4th and 5th, so it's a possibility due to being usual scum slots, but I dont SR either one to really go with it. Kokichi hasn't been svummy at all imo, and ND seemed far too much the new-player VI to consider their AtE full-on scum play for me.

The reason I got pissed about the Evee wagon being hammered so fast is because we are effectively back at D1, with no real info yet. Evee didn't even post reads. Screen didn't let them. That's inexcusable imo, because Srceen never posted reads either. At no point did Srceen say why they SR evee. He didn't care about being wrong, or if he was hammering a PR that gives no good info for doing so. Even if Evee was scum, forcing last reads at least makes them try to give fakes to analyze. Srceen didn't care, but why? Nobody else is even looking at Srceen for their constant prod dodging or the early hammer, but why? If Screen is town, then why wouldn't scum capitalize on throwing shade on him for the hammer? You could assume I'm scum and doing so, yet if/when I flip town, what's that leave? It would mean no scum even care about Srceen, and that's a ping for me. Hell, they've even been defended by others after I called him out at the end of D1, which now has gotten me votes.

Papa Zito/Srceen are effectively my top 2 reads, with a scum lean on Ankarius largely for their predecessors play (so not really important yet). Wisdom is added too, but mostly for omgus reasons at this point, so no real reason to talk about it yet. I will say that the lack of analysis of the D1 wagon or the blocked NK/who Evee would protect pings me for them too. Looks like they're going for whatever seems easy, rather than legitimate scum hunting at any point this game. Since I don't have anything more to it, I'll leave it there for now. Safe to say though that they aren't a firm TR.

[Sugar Cain]

ANKAMIUS!!!!!!! now my next post in "describe the playstyle above you" will actually be my own thoughts. c:

Are you town?

actually

VOTE: tywin

Resume operation crossbow
VOTE: Tywin

Dont do this, assuming wisdom is town here, this is a terrible sheep.

As far as yesterday goes, Tywin is my strongest TR though I'm not entirely sure I agree on him with Zito. Gonna go back and touch bases with Nero but like... I know the duck can do better than this

[Sugar Cain]

with a scum lean on Ankarius largely for their predecessors play

What play?

[Kokichi Oma]

Sugar are you saying you Townread Zito? How?

[the worst]

ANKAMIUS!!!!!!! now my next post in "describe the playstyle above you" will actually be my own thoughts. c:

Are you town?

actually

VOTE: tywin

Resume operation crossbow
VOTE: Tywin

Dont do this, assuming wisdom is town here, this is a terrible sheep.

As far as yesterday goes, Tywin is my strongest TR though I'm not entirely sure I agree on him with Zito. Gonna go back and touch bases with Nero but like... I know the duck can do better than this

I maintain this was an excellent pressurewagon I would have joined at any point in the day.

Also.....I am phenomenally weak d1, pretty consistently.

Having said that TLani volunteered a lot of info and I see it coming from a town mindset so

UNVOTE:

Wisdom where u at with him

[the worst]

D1 = early game...i.e. still now but sometimes not technically all of D1...sorry for bad terminology.

[Kokichi Oma]

Where are you at with papa?

[the worst]

Me? General discomfort wbu?

[the worst]

Opinion just changed a bit. Where are you at with Zito?

[Kokichi Oma]

I'm voting him. So.....

[the worst]

Tru haha

Whos played with him before