Open 724 - Pick Your Power X/Y [Endgame]

[the worst]

That question has almost nothing to do with me

[the worst]

Is there a reason you quoted my post?

[Ausuka]

have you even been reading my posts

i'm getting vigged anyway and once I get vigged nobody will care about my reads so i'm not inclined to spend a lot of time and effort detailing them

[Mathdino]

oh i agree that it's earnest regardless of ausuka's alignment
but the fact that ausuka waited this goddamn long is incredibly +scum for ausuka
like it's a straight up pro-scum thing to do (or not do in this case)

Edit: ...
is half of the original playerlist just gamethrowing or what

[the worst]

If youre town and get vigged and have reads you were highly confident in yes we will look at them

[the worst]

Hey I'm not gamethrowing. I lack the arm strength. I am gamedropping.

[The Janitor]

VOTE: Iconeum

Does this vote bother anyone else?

Yes as does Bird's posting style in his recent posts...

Lynch Ircher
Vig Ausuka
Lynch Janitor
Lynch Iconeum
Vig Lalendra
Lynch Lovebird
Lynch Myloninja13

I think this wins even without the 6 other power roles
Assumes we have 1shot vig and n3 vig ofc but i rarely see games without them

PRs copclearing questionable slots and making good saves gives us more lynches too

Is D1 really the time to plan out the next 5 days

Why lynch Ausuka again?

GASP DOES THIS MEAN YOU'LL REVEAL WHO YOU ARE??

Perhaps at the end? I'll keep playing on this account for iso/continuity purposes

[The Janitor]

Why VIG* Ausuka again?

[the worst]

Even just the name would grant me such catharsis

[Ausuka]

except I've literally talked about how I don't have as strong a read on Ircher as usual and I haven't really been seeing him as "by far the most likely lynch" at all

you know where fighting a townbloc as someone who's lined up for death gets you? it gets you nowhere. I don't know what to say that I haven't already said. I'm not gamethrowing. And I thought you had the game solved anyway, so I don't get why you're accusing me of gamethrowing; isn't that why you were lining up all of the vigs and lynches?

[Mathdino]

vig ausuka because no risk of misvigging a town PR

like honestly i'm just wanting to vig people who lost the draft that are also somewhat suspect

my vigpool is not nearly as likely-scum as my lynchpool

but i don't feel like massclaiming the top half of the draft

Edit: then you're straight up not reading the game
i've said multiple times that the game doesn't feel solved and that i'm still working on it
you have more authority on ircher than SIMYK does

do you give a shit if he's lynched: yes/no

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Ausuka-chan you should refute my case if you think it's wrong ^_^

[Ausuka]

yes. I would rather he didn't get lynched. this is fine because as far as I can tell he was never really close to dying. we haven't even had a week yet. if he gets close to dying I would try harder to stop him from being lynched. I was uncertain on Ircher for most of the time when his wagon was still building and relevant so I don't know why you were expecting me to hard-block the wagon on him.

[The Janitor]

like honestly i'm just wanting to vig people who lost the draft that are also somewhat suspect

Ah right.

Ausuka didn't you provide a few links while saying you thought this is Irchers scumgame?

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

She said that and then she later REVISED her read to null/town in 568 (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

[Mathdino]

that post is basically just "meh this pings me but also idk and i don't really wanna lynch him when i can just sort him later"

that's a nothing post

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

I concur, which was my POINT! Before that she SCUMREAD Ircher, so her saying that he COULD plausibly be town makes SENSE with her trajectory~

[Ausuka]

@simyk; i can see why Ircher might read Math's posting in the way he did, even if he's incorrect.
i can also kinda see the logic behind where he puts Math in his readslist- he has one towny thing, one scummy thing, so he decides to put him at null.
saying you're not gonna engage with someone and then going on to engage with them isn't scummy- I've seen it done as town before and I think I've even done it as town before. you think you shouldn't do it at that moment in time but you go on to do it anyway because it's just, a natural thing to do, to engage with people? idk.
Ircher was referring to mutant's first few posts with the post about exclusively setup-speccing, not Mathdino.
I think it's not scummy for Ircher to think Mathdino was talking to the worst when tw's case was the last post before Ircher's post.

[The Janitor]

She said that and then she later REVISED her read to null/town in 568 (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

That's wacky. Don't see town motivation in that post if it came after the initial scumresd on Ircher. Scum might want to keep him alive I think?

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

@simyk; i can see why Ircher might read Math's posting in the way he did, even if he's incorrect.

i can also kinda see the logic behind where he puts Math in his readslist- he has one towny thing, one scummy thing, so he decides to put him at null.

Yes, but I would think MORE weight should be put in when Mathdino is NOT relying on SPEC as a crutch, which is what ircher believes is SCUMMY about setup spec.

saying you're not gonna engage with someone and then going on to engage with them isn't scummy- I've seen it done as town before and I think I've even done it as town before. you think you shouldn't do it at that moment in time but you go on to do it anyway because it's just, a natural thing to do, to engage with people? idk.

I SUPPOSE this is correct, but I just FEEL that someone as self-conscious as IRCHER will be more COGNIZANT of what he is doing and as a result STAY TRUE to his word.

Ircher was referring to mutant's first few posts with the post about exclusively setup-speccing, not Mathdino.

Yes, HOWEVER we can still use it as a POINT OF REFERENCE to see how Ircher thinks. I do think, however, that there is COGNITIVE DISSONANCE in IRCHER'S read trajectory here!

I think it's not scummy for Ircher to think Mathdino was talking to the worst when tw's case was the last post before Ircher's post.

That is NOT what I am saying - Ircher ARGUED that Mathdino did NOT take a side and contributed NOTHING with his post, when I think it's an INSIGHTFUL meta-read!

So YEAH I think there is some dissonance in how we are VIEWING my points so this should clear things up ^_^

She said that and then she later REVISED her read to null/town in 568 (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

That's wacky. Don't see town motivation in that post if it came after the initial scumresd on Ircher. Scum might want to keep him alive I think?

Do you THINK that means Ausuka-chan/Ircher are BOTH scum or just Ausuka-chan?

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

If Ausuka-chan were town how do you think she would have went back on her IRCHER read? Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑)

[The Janitor]

I don't necessarily think scum!Ausuka's action connects to Ircher, it's out of Ircher's control.

If Ausuka-chan were town how do you think she would have went back on her IRCHER read? Σ(-᷅_-᷄๑)

I'd think a townie motivated post would have more power behind it so to say? After going from a scumread on a semi widely scumread player to seeming to pardon him from the lynch. Right now it mostly seems meta. Dunno if I feel good about that as a reason but I'm also just a bit adverse to meta play

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

Meta is a PERFECTLY valid tool to use and I do NOT think Ausuka-chan is in the WRONG for relying on it (ﾉ^ヮ^)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧

It is VERY effective to use on players whom people MISREAD often, like how CREATURE used to be before his meta was WIDELY KNOWN!

[The Janitor]

Hmm I guess that's my bad then but I'd have liked to see more arguments than mostly or only that if you understand.

[SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis]

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I do must AGREE~