Mini 2011: Partition Mafia (Game Over)

[Wisdom]

Pedit - I don't like dramon at all this game. He's pretty much my number 1 scumread.

Who would you swap out of d3 then? Cakez?

[Kokichi Oma]

Wisdom let's start with this. Which group do we switch in. Group 1 or 3

3. Other than realmen everyone in group3 has strong chances of being scum.

Okay fine.

[Kokichi Oma]

I dont like real men though

[BuJaber]

Yes cake would be a good choice. If he's scum we'll soon know. But I actually want both you and muffin alive that is why the order is important.

Committing to the order gives is a way of boosting our trust of both of you.

I'm trying not to let my reads influence this because otherwise I'd just be saving wisdom and koki and not giving a damn about anybody else.

[Kokichi Oma]

Muffin and wisdom you both need to come together and decide. We cant waste both right now

[zMuffinMan]

i already made it clear what i think is optimal

[zMuffinMan]

(plus the alternative i think is reasonable too)

[SirCakez]

alternate idea - lynch 1? And swap gal out.

[Kokichi Oma]

I dont see how doing both day 1 is optimal when we might need it later to win

[BuJaber]

So it would go like this:
Muffin swaps with wisdom.
Wisdom swaps muffin with dramon (or someone else from G3.. I won't go against majority I just really think it should be dramon)

Pine/riku contains 1 scum if koki is telling the truth. Koki dies if he's scum. 1 scum guaranteed.
Potential 2nd scum in piku/riku/dramon.

Muffin's agreement with this woild go along way into making him more credible with his push against group 2 all game. Also it involves him taking a leap of faith so we can take a leap of faith. Also since all of this should be agreed upon in thread lying about it later is a scumclaim in my book so a betrayal is not a total loss. And the worst case scenario 1 scum dies anyway which is what everybody who wanted group 2 lynched has been saying all game so they have no leg to stand on if they disagree.

I know it's better to lynch 4 people instead of 5 but there's no other way to save wisdom and still lynch both pine and riku.

And koki I'm sorry I wish there was a way you could live too but this might be the only way to get muffin to agree and it also guarantees the other people agreeing because they look like hypocrites if they refuse to lynch what would be 100% guaranteed scum regardless of how they read you.

[BuJaber]

Saving one of the swaps risk them getting killed at night.

[zMuffinMan]

the idea behind wisdom's swap is that he doesn't want to lynch you/koki, so even if i thought that was a good plan (i don't, really), wisdom might not (plus he wouldn't swap me out in that scenario anyway)

[Wisdom]

alternate idea - lynch 1? And swap gal out.

Nah
DV and eddie are townleans

[Wisdom]

I dont see how doing both day 1 is optimal when we might need it later to win

If we use mine we lynch the group muffin is in so muffin is forced to also use it regardless of alignment

[Kokichi Oma]

Yeah, I'm not ok with that plan. As I said you both need to not let your egos get in the way and decide on one thing together. Because muffin can just be selfish and change things up regardless

[zMuffinMan]

gonna sleep. maybe ill wake up and be reasonable. but buj, i'm not considering any scenario where i swap first so don't bother suggesting that anymore

[Kokichi Oma]

If hes town it's a good ability to have for day 2 in the event scum try weird pairing tomorrow

[Wisdom]

So it would go like this:
Muffin swaps with wisdom.
Wisdom swaps muffin with dramon (or someone else from G3.. I won't go against majority I just really think it should be dramon)

I dont think you understand the plan
The idea is to save me, Kokichi and you here
So im moving the scum from g2 ie Pine or Miku to g3 and we're lynching g3

[Eddie Cane]

we are lynching group 2 today.

i approve of swapping kok with someone, probably cakez

that's about it

[Wisdom]

I know it's better to lynch 4 people instead of 5 but there's no other way to save wisdom and still lynch both pine and riku.

There is. I swap pine to g3 and muffin swaps riku to g3
But its even better if he swaps fitz to g3

[Wisdom]

we are lynching group 2 today.

i approve of swapping kok with someone, probably cakez

that's about it

Eddie if this is what you want this is not how you get it
Again, unless im convinced otherwiss the swap is happening soon. I am holding the cards here.

[zMuffinMan]

you're wrong, eddie

#gotyourback wisdom

[Wisdom]

Yeah, I'm not ok with that plan. As I said you both need to not let your egos get in the way and decide on one thing together. Because muffin can just be selfish and change things up regardless

The worst muffin can do is kill another town in place of himself (if hes town)

[Kokichi Oma]

I'd be okay with swapping Riku for Muffin so muffin doesnt waste ability because of ego. Tomorrow muffin has to use his ability based on majority decision or we lynch him if hes self preservationist. Does this sound reasonable?

[Wisdom]

Muffin said that if I switch him hes going to reverse it so not doing that