Mini Normal 2010 - Scientific Mafia [GAME OVER]

[TwoInAMillion]

Don't want to be off the wagon today:)

VOTE: Voyc

[TwoInAMillion]

I mean VOTE: Brawl

[TehBrawlGuy]

I think that puts me at L-1?

It's a pretty awful wagon without any solid basis, especially given that I was townread by most of the game D1 and was pushing Sho all of D1. I'm pretty perplexed at why I'm not obvtown and why we're letting slots with 0 content in skate by, but whatever. Screen/Byron/Bu/Gustavo is probably a townblock, and be super leery of anyone pushing Gustavo. I'd start by lynching in the inactives, but if TiaM lives to LyLo, off him. Other than that I don't have much to say, so you all can hammer away if you're not going to come to your senses.

[BuJaber]

I can't imagine garuga actually outed his team. He gave up because we caught him and sho so he salvaged the opportunity to make us question brawl, and by extension, screen because he made us think about a 2nd scum in the neighborhood.

I imagine if brawl were the last scum he would have raged at garuga for game throwing maybe even reported him to the mod.

I also don't think the last scum would point out to me that the scum PM makes it look like there are only 3 scum in the game.

Imagine you are garuga's partner. What is your likely reaction?

Ragequit or lurk.

But I understand some people might buckle down and still do their best but they wouldn't be trying to help town. Brawl is being gelpful and saying things that sound like scumhunting town. So even if you think he is capable of maintaining his cool tell me what about his posts seems scummy.

Garuga claimed scum. So you have to treat him as a conf guilty. You don't listen to anything a conf guilty says because they are trying to lead you down the WIFOM rabbit hole.

If brawl survives until lylo you may question him again but nothing he has done after garuga flipped gives me any imdication that he is scum.

[Archwing]

VC 2.01

BuJaber (0):

Voyc (2):

BuJaber, Hopkirk

Gustavo (0):

Hopkirk (1):

TehBrawlGuy

MusicBox(0):

TwoInAMillion (0):

ByronVilla (0):

Srceenplay (0):

TehBrawlGuy (4):

Gustavo, Srceenplay, ByronVilla, TwoInAMillion

Knuflanto (0):

Not Voting(3):

Voyc, MusicBox, Knuflanto

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Day 2 deadlines expires in:

(expired on 2018-05-30 19:03:37)

Mod Notes: Eureka!

Prodding voyc, Knuflanto.

[Gustavo]

That’s the issue. You don’t know if Garuga was fucking with us or not. We have a mislynch, a couple probably. I’m not comfortable leaving him alive til lylo, and he will survive if he’s town. If this wagon falls apart the only other person I’ll vote is Tim. He’s either scum or really Fucking bad town. I don’t think I’ve seen a worse player ever if he’s town.

[TehBrawlGuy]

That’s the issue. You don’t know if Garuga was fucking with us or not. We have a mislynch, a couple probably. I’m not comfortable leaving him alive til lylo, and he will survive if he’s town. If this wagon falls apart the only other person I’ll vote is Tim. He’s either scum or really Fucking bad town.

I don’t think I’ve seen a worse player ever if he’s town.

I get that the point of this sentence was to slam TiaM, but if this is the depth of your experience, I think you did a better job at highlighting just how naive you actually are.

I also find it amusing that you think you've never seen a worse player, but are on board with the idea that my scummate claimed Scum unpressured D1 and outed the entire scumteam.

[Gustavo]

Fine. If he did that, Tim is the 2nd worse player. Better?

[Gustavo]

I’m sorry. I retract the insults. I didn’t mean to cross the line. I just find his reasoning for scum reading me extremely poor and I expect better from experienced players.

[BuJaber]

TIAM is a good player.

People get things wrong. It's a reads based game. A lot is determined by gut and interpretation.

Things like your reaction seem scummy when you take it this badly that someone scumreads you.

[BuJaber]

If it makes you feel better I'll do my best to keep you alive.. though to be fair I tried to brawl also and he lools like he'll die so meh

[Gustavo]

tim may be a good player but you have to admit his reasons for scum reading me are terrible. I'm scum because I wasn't around day 1 and I want to test the list from scum. neither of those are reasons for somebody being scum.

I don't need you to keep me alive. If people think I am not helping find scum (I disagree) and they think I am scum (i'm not) then lynch me and learn from it. Make the people who voted me learn from their mistakes especially tiam. make sure he gets lynched tomorrow because him trying to spearhead my mislynch for those terrible reasons must be scum motivated.

[Gustavo]

looking through garuga's posts byron he town read and his reactions to tiam seem weird.

[Gustavo]

knuflanto could be scum also

so my lynch pool is brawl/tiam/knuflanto (I don't see he has been replaced despite not having a post since last saturday.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm not taking it personally. Gustavo could easily be scum trying to generaty ate sympathy with the town.

[BuJaber]

One of you might be right about the other but I disagree ..my scum pool is {voyc, knuflanto, saudade ...and hop if the first 3 are town somehow}.

[TwoInAMillion]

That sounds like a reasonable scumpool I would throw gustavo in there but I digress.

[Hopkirk]

Light townread from pushing Bu then stopping in the way he did.

Huh.. I scumread her for the same thing.
She stopped because the neighborhood was outed. She'd look really bad pursuing it. That's NAI.
But I feel the combo of her scumread on me for noticing the unnatural interaction and then going back on it like that is scummy. Seemed too sudden like she was looking for an excuse to back away from me when it looked like nobody would join her wagon on me.
And it pings me that she didn't offer a clear opinion on screen/sho/brawl.

@TIAM - It's not a strong read but I townread gustavo

Thinking in terms of tactics it's pointless to bring it up then drop it. Best case is he stays in the POE pool.
It's not a strong townread, it's a lets not lynch today.

Nobody was voting him.

This is a lie

Look at when posts happened. Nobody was voting him when you said I was. Bu changed a bit before then

[Hopkirk]

One of you might be right about the other but I disagree ..my scum pool is {voyc, knuflanto, saudade ...and hop if the first 3 are town somehow}.

That sounds like a reasonable scumpool I would throw gustavo in there but I digress.

Legit pool. Voyc or Saudade (music) today and vig the other imo.

[Hopkirk]

@Gus: if you're forming a POE pool then can you understand TiM doing the same thing and having you in it? You say you didn't do much d1

[Gustavo]

@Gus: if you're forming a POE pool then can you understand TiM doing the same thing and having you in it? You say you didn't do much d1

Forming a poe pool is one thing. Voting me for things nobody should be voted for is another. I can’t speak for other players but my personal belief is if you see somebody voting for bad reasons to say something.

[TwoInAMillion]

@Gus: if you're forming a POE pool then can you understand TiM doing the same thing and having you in it? You say you didn't do much d1

Forming a poe pool is one thing. Voting me for things nobody should be voted for is another. I can’t speak for other players but my personal belief is if you see somebody voting for bad reasons to say something.

It's not bad reasons. Everyone in my townpool is much more active and engaged that you and scumhunting better. Not only are you not active but you are very reactive and selfaware more like scum than town.

[Gustavo]

Defending myself is scum like? Dude you can’t really be this bad at mafia.

[TwoInAMillion]

Defending myself is scum like? Dude you can’t really be this bad at mafia.

Focusing on one person scum reading you is scum like. You can call me names all you want but it doesn't make me wrong.

[Gustavo]

Look. This game is weird. I was legitimately busy last weekend and when I came back both scum were caught with a potential lead on the 3rd. You can disagree with me all you want but there is no way I’m ever going to put brawl as confirmed town and I’m not comfortable leaving him til lylo. Clearly we don’t have an investigative or else they would have investigated brawl.

You can say I’m not scum hunting all you want but based on day 1, brawl is my desired lynch.