Mini Normal 2012: Tropical Mafia [Endgame]

[JarJarDrinks]

Top 3 scum reads and why.

Seriously Invis, can u answer this please? Aside from shoshen, who else would u want to lynch?

[JarJarDrinks]

That is L-1

[Invisibility]

i'll answer it for you
1. shoshin
2. JJD
3. lurker pool [Havo/texcat/and i think other people]

[Invisibility]

hi should i just be at the point where i don't care anymore

[Invisibility]

i was chatting with my bois on the PT and they said no

[JarJarDrinks]

u can claim if u wanna do something.

[Invisibility]

oh yaeh vanilla town

[Invisibility]

cross my heart

[Invisibility]

actually i think BBT might be a finer spot than JJD

[Invisibility]

or replace a lurker slot

[Shoshin]

Shoshin, I'd like to have the chance to talk to you in real time whenever you're around.

Got a couple of questions.

Yeah, I'm here. I usually have time during the day, not later at night.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Alright, so first question.

Did anyone visit you last night?

[Shoshin]

@ Shoshin...wrt 643, this seems a little hypocritcal considering the insults you have been dishing out towards me. A little "what goes around" bothering you?

You're right, my wording on you was harsher than I meant it to be, I'm sorry about that. But there's a difference between what I was doing and what Gus was doing - I didn't mean to insult you, I was trying to explain my thought process on why I was lightly town reading you despite what I perceived as bad play (your top scum reads were town, after all). I assumed your play would be better since you joined the site in 2009, but after skimming some of your games, I decided to hold you to a lower standard - that's what I was trying to get across, but you're right that my wording was harsher than it needed to be, and for that, I'm sorry. Gustavo's insults pissed me off because they had nothing to do with reading me, they were personal (e.g. calling me dumb and voting me in the same post), and it was also his overall approach to our interaction of continuing to talk past me while insulting me instead of actually trying to come to an understanding.

[Shoshin]

Alright, so first question.

Did anyone visit you last night?

I have no clue. If they did, I don't know.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Shoshin

Shoshin is scum.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If Shoshin is scum I need a serious reevaluation of this game.

I'm like 95% sure that Shoshin is flipping scum here though.

[Shoshin]

BBT, if something happened at night where I was supposed to know who visited me and I don't, it's outside my control. I received no information about any visits.

[Invisibility]

if shoshin flips scum then BBT is virtually conftown i would say

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I understand that.

You played well Shoshin, I had you as one of my strongest town reads.

[Shoshin]

I'm not flipping scum. This is fucked if I get lynched today because of some night interaction that mafia fucked with.

[Shoshin]

BBT, you realize that whatever happened at night could have been fucked with by mafia? It's terrible basis for any read. You should be using night actions to corroborate what you already believe, not to completely change a read from strong town to scum. The only thing that's 100% certain and reliable is behaviors.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nah, I think if you were town you would know who visited you.

If scum have somehow played the situation and got lucky, so be it. But your answers at start of day didn't give me a good feeling that you were town and I tried to ignore it.

But it won't go away.

[texcat]

If Shoshin is scum I need a serious reevaluation of this game.

I'm like 95% sure that Shoshin is flipping scum here though.

I agree totally with your first sentence.

And I, of course, don't understand your second sentence or why you waited until Invis was at L-1 to do this.

[Shoshin]

Why would I know who visited me?

[Invisibility]

there are multiple roles that inform the person that visited them that they were visited