Open 728: Sharing is Caring (GAME OVER)

[Mathdino]

to be fair guys, i'm on record for asking scumpartners to plan out their claims beforehand

check my scum PTs
ctrl+F "topics" in my egosearch

i'm a big fan of claiming optimally

[ofrhz]

That would only matter if scum had pt access before game start

[Zoronos]

Oh I didn’t get it after all lol

Who if anyone do you think was likely bussing on that wagon?

I don't know yet. The massive EoD stall threw off my expectations in a major way. I didn't expect JJH to be scum after that + the claim until HWS countered. Those things suggest scum were probably digging in their heels in a no-bus scenario, since I'd *normally* expect that once scum boarded the bus they'd start advocating loudly for lynch completion with the objective of gaining false town-cred. But we didn't really see that. I had to start digging up votes / preparing to build alternative consensus before Blackstar voted JJH.

If there's a bus vote, my gut says Math or Pintu; I actually liked your pintu case because you said out loud what was percolating in my head but I wasn't ready to commit to yet.
I'm just not sure it fits the rest of the facts we're seeing.

[HitAlt]

Hitalt stonewalled the jjh lynch yesterday

Only half true.
I tried to semitruck a TW lynch yesterday.
Guess it can be interpreted as stonewalling jjh if you want to.

[HitAlt]

He was explicitly PR-reading jjh though before the claim

Same how TW is almost guaranteed scum or PR.
More likely scum, but I just know it.
Thought jjh was the other way around.
No great mystery about it.

[HitAlt]

Hitalt stonewalled the jjh lynch yesterday

How do you distinguish town-but-wrong-about-JJH from scum stonewalling in this case?
Because I can see a world where HitAlt was town-reading JJH due to bias from agreement (they were both on the_worst most of the day).

And yet again, to be more accurate here, I had a PR-read on them.
I didn't explicitly think they were town, but I thought they were just as likely to be PR as they were scum.
I made a judgement call of "town".

[the worst]

@A50 -- did scum have PT access before daystart?

for the record I agree logically speaking Math is super super unlikely to be scum (this is like the main reason I'll ever townread him)

[Mathdino]

okay, at best you've just become anti-town though

if you think TW is guaranteed scum/PR,

maybe tunneling him for 2 days straight is not the correct play

my case on hitalt is that i have the fewest reasons to townread him

a couple of you place too much burden of proof/evidence when that's just not how the game works

shit results in votes being wasted and difficulty in even getting enough votes for a lynch

today's lynchpool is {dave, HitAlt, ofrhz} and there won't be enough support for anyone else, so please figure out where your head is at re: these 3

[HitAlt]

I apologize for not posting in nearly three days.
I got demotivated by the fact that I let myself become such an easy mislynch, and because I misjudged jjhs actions.
I then reread the whole game and got even less motivated because I'm not sure how to push for the right lynches anymore.
My hypoclaim was also bad. I think MathDino might actually be scum here.
So all in all, not feeling like a Hit.

If there's a bus vote, my gut says Math or Pintu; I actually liked your pintu case because you said out loud what was percolating in my head but I wasn't ready to commit to yet.

This + his "defense" on me previously, says town!Zoro for now from my PoV.
Scum!Zoro has no reason to defend me, even by proxy (I think they were really mainly poking at MathDino for voting me)
Pinocchhio could be in my blind spot similar to how jjh apparently was, but I didn't see much scum in there even on my reread.
If they don't activate D2 it could be different though.

[Mathdino]

My hypoclaim was also bad. I think MathDino might actually be scum here.

and bullshit like this is essentially why we have to lynch either davesaz or hitalt

they're never getting NK'd and they don't seem to understand that TW and i are the ideal NKs right now (besides zoronos)

[HitAlt]

dave, HitAlt, ofrhz}

Guess I deserve my place in here, and daves defense was mainly poor AtE.
But ofrhz?
Eh at best.

[HitAlt]

they're never getting NK'd and they don't seem to understand that TW and i are the ideal NKs right now (besides zoronos)

Well I doubt neither of you will ever get killed here.
You two are paired so tightly now, that I'd say the scum in you two has a field day with this game.
You saying "kill TW if he makes it to LyLo" is either a poor attempt at trying to direct scums actions, or just scum posing.

[HitAlt]

Also, not getting NK'd is good for my wincon, so at least I'm doing part of it right..?

[Almost50]

@A50 -- did scum have PT access before daystart?

*Cough cough cough* Come again?

Yes, the scum team had a their PT open in the pregame.

Also, as someone pointed out, the scum team does not have daytalk in this game.

P.S. It is my understanding that

Normal games

on MS cannot have daytalk

unless explicitly mentioned

in the OP/game rules. I hope I'm not biting more than I can chew here though, so ask someone old. WAIT! I mean... you know what I mean.

[Almost50]

Sharing is Caring D2 VC #4

HitAlt (3): ruru, the worst, Mathdino,
Mathdino (2): davesaz, pinturicchio,
the worst (1): BlackStar,
pinturicchio (1): ofrhz,

Not Voting: HeWhoSwims, HitAlt, Zoronos,

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

(expired on 2018-06-21 21:15:00)

I tried my best to make any mistakes this time. I hope my efforts are fruitful.

[HitAlt]

HitAlt (3): ruru, the worst, Mathdino,

At least one scum in these three should be obvious to everyone.
If not before, then at the very least after I flip town.
Scum have an easy agenda with me here, and thats my own fault tbh, but no way these are all town.
TW and Math would want to jump on the wagon as soon as possible, and ruru enabled that with their vote.

[pinturicchio]

UNVOTE: Mathdino

[Mathdino]

i love this song and dance
happens every day 2

1. Mathdino powerwagons Person A with first post off gut
2. Person A votes/scumreads Mathdino
3. Mathdino rereads, powerwagons Person B off logic
4. Person B votes/scumreads Mathdino
5. Mathdino settles on Person C as final lynch
6. Person C votes/scumreads Mathdino
7. Meanwhile pretty much everyone else null/townreads Mathdino

every time, man
every time.
it's actually exceedingly rare that someone DOESN'T go through this song and dance with me
(i.e. decides "hey mathdino is probably wrong about me")
and when they don't, those are usually the townies

i'm not saying i'm some kind of victim, but i am saying that 0/3 people i pushed today responded coolly and detachedly
scumreads here are either irrational or scum

it's not obvious to me at all that the hitalt wagon has scum on it.
hell, wagoning him is

anti-scum

right now because he's effectively claimed VT with his hypoclaim fuckup and the obviousness of who he would've vigshot last night
scum would rather out PRs or get more claims i think
or, yknow, push someone who isn't going to deathtunnel you to his deathbed

so this idea that "oh there must be scum on my wagon" is again either irrational or fake

i'm satisfied with this as the final lynch

[the worst]

@A50 -- did scum have PT access before daystart?

*Cough cough cough* Come again?

ok i'm blonde irl...............before GAMESTART*

[the worst]

this might sound ironic coming from me but
the omgus is real and I'm actually thinking that's probs 3 town on your wagon Hit? why the fuck do you think opportunistic scum are jumping on and how does this line up to your reads post-re-read?

[the worst]

might be re-reconsidering Hit
maybe
just maybe

[davesaz]

@MOD please update the alive/dead lists in the OP.

[ruru]

Hey guys I had a sudden revelation last night

Since I'm not the cop, and one of our peeks is legit, blackstar is actually >rand scum

Let's lynch him today

[Mathdino]

first of all, why are you claiming not cop

second of all, i have an inno on blackstar, and that's legit

third, even if you don't believe i'm the cop, blackstar was next to you as NSG's top townread, and NSG specifically requested that we not turn around and start lynching her top townreads

[ruru]

My post was extremely sarcastic