Newbie 1875 | D4

[Irrelephant11]

I mean I never suggest cop claiming because 2/3 cop situations include a scum roleblocker

Yes the tracker's ability is neutralized by being jailkept but there's no guarantee the tracker's results would be helpful whereas there is a guarantee that having a confirmed town player who won't die would be helpful

It's not a perfect strategy by any means

xander, what do you think of nexus?

[Irrelephant11]

wait I'm voting xander when did that happen

oh yeah I thought I had some interesting bayesian ideas

let's actually go here VOTE: nexus

[teacher]

I dont mind some pressure there. I'll even do it in few words.

VOTE: Nexus

[teacher]

P.S.: I hate the mechanics discussion, but Elephant accurately described it. The "knowntown" benefit of it is a plus, but also not a lock, because Scum know whether we are in column C, and could take the 66% chance theres only one power role to fakeclaim tracker and coast. On balance, Id really rather there not be a claim today and that we focus on sorting slots.

[teacher]

(@Plat when you do come back, I do want to hear your reaction to all that has gone on since Sunday).

[Nexus]

zzz

[Nexus]

I don't make long wall posts as town or scum. I don't see the point. I've given my thoughts, and I want to wait to see what the people who I have said are scum say.

[Irrelephant11]

I don’t need a long post I just need some more thoughts on the players. Even just some minimal explanation for why you think some players are scum or town

[Nexus]

Invisibility is active, taking an interest and making comments similar to ones I would make. So therefore I think they are as town as I am.

Xander seems like an active enthusiastic town!newbie.

I like stungun, he is backing up his points of view and has good points.

You and the other wordy guy seem town enough from activity and ideas. I may reassess this depending on how the game goes.

[Irrelephant11]

Hmmm those are good reads

I guess now I’m just nervous you’re scumreading plat and Espeonage to keep eyes off you

[Irrelephant11]

Isolato I think you’re probably town, who do you think is scum?

[Irrelephant11]

VOTE: Platfleece

[stungun0404]

Invisibility is active, taking an interest and making comments similar to ones I would make. So therefore I think they are as town as I am.

Xander seems like an active enthusiastic town!newbie.

I like stungun, he is backing up his points of view and has good points.

You and the other wordy guy seem town enough from activity and ideas. I may reassess this depending on how the game goes.

Hmm. I like that you indicated townreads/leans on several players when facing the heat. Seems good enough for a townlean on you, in essence, but the only thing that limits this is that you simultaneously don’t really stir anyone’s pot—so therefore while it’s a kind of statement that leads to a townlean, it’s not quite ‘town’ against attack.

So town: teacher, invisibility, irrelephant
townlean: nexus, xander
null: isolato
nullscum: espeonage
clear scum lean: platfleece

VOTE: platfleece

definitely comfortable with making this the lead wagon, and putting this back at L-2.

[Xander]

Why did platfleece go silent all of a sudden?

[xRECKONERx]

platfleece has been prodded.

[Espeonage]

It's a thursday, I'll be around later.

[platfleece]

Got the prod. I'm currently in the middle of packing for a Saturday flight which will leave me V/LA until Sunday, but I'll catch up in a bit. I'll need to provide my thoughts on Teacher's long wall text.

Before that though, I do wanna respond to Irrelephant's first post that I read just before Teach's long post. Note: I have not read the thread past Teacher's big post on his vote on me so if the tide has changed since then it'll be reflected later today.

@Irrelephant:
You wondered why I thought you scumread Teacher. I explained before too that your hypothetical scumpool was what lead me to believe it, but I had missed the last part of your post somehow that said you had no reads on teacher. I even mentioned it when I said "whoops" in my post to show that. Actual mistake on my part.

I'll get back to responding in a bit later.

[teacher]

This game is seriously driving me bonkers with the lurking. Isolato dropped his prod, ESP is prodging, and nexus isnt doing much more.

@Xander - I found the last sentence of 188 interesting -- that you "agree with me" that Plat is still likely town -- compared against 105, , 154, that they were your strongest suspect. What changed between those posts for you? And you missed my other questions in 191, regarding your strongest scumread and your read of ESP.

@Esp: All game youve denied having scumreads. But youre going to have to lynch someone. Who is your compromise pool and why?

@Nexus - you made your pool pretty plain. What about Xander makes him Town! as opposed to simply active -- what did you find alignment indicative?

@Elephant - same to you, you strongly towned Xander in 181. Im inclined that way, but much weaker. What makes it so good for you?

I would go back to Plat, but dont want to L-1 before the promised post. If its not up by tomorrow morning, Ill go there.

[teacher]

the empty commas in 217's Xander question were supposed to link to 140

[Irrelephant11]

I've said that I only see a scum Xander with someone else new to the game - none of my scumreads qualify to be his partner, so that's a big reason I'm townreading him for now

His scumread moments of you were also insightful

[Irrelephant11]

Xander just seems like he's sorting, too. But this is one read I'll re-evaluate for sure if we mislynch, it's not the strongest

I even mentioned it when I said "whoops" in my post to show that. Actual mistake on my part.

I don't know why but I'm scumreading this

[xRECKONERx]

isolato has failed to pick up his prod, and thus is being force replaced.

[Invisibility]

i literally didn't sleep at all last night so lol
i'll try to make more posts about more thing but its kind of hard when you are sleep deprived
anyway at @Irrelephant why would my vote be bad if it was the third vote?

[Irrelephant11]

It turns two people voting someone for their own reasons into a wagon, and you didn't give reasons. I wanted to point out that it was bad to see if you would react poorly, or simply state that it was to form a wagon. If it's just the second vote, though, it doesn't seem like an opportunistic push, just a vote.

[Invisibility]

oh ok
the vote was to create a wagon because the reasons that somebody provided i cant remember seemed legit