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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:50 pm

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So sorry for everyone who genuinely scumread me for how I've played.
All I can say is that this hasn't been anything like my usual playstyle.
I am Alt. Hope it's a hit.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:12 pm

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In post 1194, Chickadee wrote:
In post 1193, the worst wrote:I'm yet to experience a situation where confidence has let me down. let's sheep Andrius.

BTW you seem very considered and careful this game chickadee
I'm really ok with sheeping Andrius



And I'm not sure what you mean with that comment.
just a general comment, you're coming across as very reflective this game (more so than usual) :>
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:19 pm

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Yea, Chick has been surfing this whole game.
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:28 pm

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In post 1200, HitAlt wrote:So sorry for everyone who genuinely scumread me for how I've played.
All I can say is that this hasn't been anything like my usual playstyle.
you're either not who I think you are, or it's not that different :p

I wasn't lynching HitAlt anyway, but I still won't today.

Let's go flubber let's go
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:33 pm

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In post 1202, HitAlt wrote:Yea, Chick has been surfing this whole game.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:36 pm

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In post 1204, the worst wrote:
In post 1202, HitAlt wrote:Yea, Chick has been surfing this whole game.
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Myloninja's not in this game.
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:36 pm

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In post 1203, profii wrote:you're either not who I think you are, or it's not that different :p
You don't know Jack.
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:37 pm

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myloninja is also terrible at surfing
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:37 pm

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In post 1206, HitAlt wrote:
In post 1203, profii wrote:you're either not who I think you are, or it's not that different :p
You don't know Jack.
sure? :D
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:02 am

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Is role madness normal?
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:28 am

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normal CAN be role madness and this was advertised as like.. ~mechanically interesting~ and basically lite role madness
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:28 am

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iirc normal only needs at least 1 vt lel
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:29 am

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So what claims do we even believe
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:29 am

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believe all claims

lynch scummy players regardless of claims or town loses
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:41 am

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Yeah, if this is role madness, I've got to withdraw my statement from several games about not lynching an un-CCed PR claim day 1, it's unrealistic.
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:41 am

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VOTE: dramonic
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:57 am

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what's your take on andrius' hard town metaread on dram?
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:21 am

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For comprehension, all the people that feel strongly on their lynch, can they make a short assessment or not-too-lengthy case of their thoughts?


I can't work with the whole
"vote here and yay it's going to flip scum"
reply....

-_-*... Especially in light with people telling me my votes and pushes so far have sucked without much reasoning beyond
"
Taly
is overreacting!"
but w/e.

There's at least 4-5 different wagons right now and that is very unhelpful given the lack of time we have.

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I strongly feel that there's a huge lack of scum motivation in
Hit
once you read him in depth - he has literally nothing to benefit as scum from most of any of his posts this dayphase.
Short Answer:
I'm probably not voting here at all.

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I don't like that
Flubb
only posts when he's being suspected and that warrants MY revote because he's the least present person with a wagon that several people are tip-toeing saying they'd jump on but aren't doing jackshit atm.
Short Answer:
I'll likely revote this.

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I'm not lynching a
Dram
who made protective claim in a Normal on D1 - like seriously, wtf guys? Unless someone has this elaborate scum theory that revolves around
Dram's
fakeclaim, or discusses how his play deserves a lynch regardless, I don't think lynching a potential Town PR is optimal at all for D1.
Short Answer:
Very unlikely that I'll vote here.

Also
Chickadee
is getting by with nothing, and while I don't think
HeWhoSwims
and
Brass
are scum at the moment, their posts are essentially
"I'll lynch to lynch if I don't have a strong argument leading me to something when we have to lynch!"
But what are they doing right now?

I can understand why anyone would want to lynch for info but even if that was 2nd priority to scum;
NO WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. NOT IN THIS GAMESTATE.


I'm going to look into
xyzzy
tonight, or early tomorrow morning in depth.
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:23 am

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In post 1217, Taly wrote:***I don't like that Flubb only posts when he's being suspected and that warrants MY revote because he's the least present person with a wagon that several people are tip-toeing saying they'd jump on but aren't doing jackshit atm.
Short Answer: I'll likely revote this.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:23 am

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oh wait
Brass
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Dram


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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:27 am

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taly my man we're gonna have PRs coming outta our ass this game
if i eat the NK please don't be chicken shit about lynching claimed PRs going forward

i'm valuing andrius' hard meta read a lot more than a roleclaim there
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:33 am

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the worst wrote:
In post 1217, Taly wrote:***I don't like that Flubb only posts when he's being suspected and that warrants MY revote because he's the least present person with a wagon that several people are tip-toeing saying they'd jump on but aren't doing jackshit atm.
Short Answer: I'll likely revote this.
*fist bump*
Actually...

I just stated a very valid reason for the
Flub
lynch, given my scumread on him never really dissipated.

VOTE: Flubbernugget

This may change when I look at
xyzzy
, but I'm fine with my vote here for EoD1.

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the worst wrote:taly my man we're gonna have PRs coming outta our ass this game
if i eat the NK please don't be chicken shit about lynching claimed PRs going forward

i'm valuing andrius' hard meta read a lot more than a roleclaim there
What's keeping you from changing your vote or unvoting then? If I read correctly,
Andrius
townreads
Dram
?

I'm not afraid to lynch PRs...

If it's any dayphase that's
NOT
D1.

In my experience, town more often flourishes when they take claims at face value, at least until they can be disproved, scumtainted or countered later in the game.

Also, nobody should ever look for a CC in good conscience, at least this early in the game.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:39 am

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@Hit:
Would you please fullclaim and link crumbs. Because that soft claim reads a whole lot like scum.
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:39 am

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But, I have towned scum-PRs...

I'm not good at weeding what's a good fakeclaim or what a scum-PR claim would be in most situations, and how that changes with the circumstances.

I just don't want to lynch
Dram
and be like
"FUCK he could've been useful for town"
when I had the gut instinct/principle to
NOT
lynch him.

And then if he IS a Town-PR that whole argument becomes WIFOM against me and other townies on his hypothetical wagon.

The risk outweighs the benefit, depending on the game narrative.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:41 am

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Oh well fuck, just saw
Hit
claimed too...
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