Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:49 pm

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Things I'm ruling out:

BV
/
BS
/
TW
(there probably aren't 4 scum)
BV
/
BS
/
TW
(they wouldn't seppuku like this)
BV
/
BS
/
TW
(someone somewhere is lying)

Unlikely:

BV
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BS
/
TW
(BS wouldn't seppuku unless 3rd scum was unbelievably safe like Gustavo or something which seems unlikely and even then whyyyyyy)
BV
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BS
/
TW
(TW gambiting fake claimingas VT whyyyyyyy?)

Possible:

BV
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BS
/
TW
(BS trying to bus TW for maximum credit here because it's so unbelievable he'd bus both partners?)
BV
/
BS
/
TW

BV
/
BS
/
TW
(leaning towards this)

Ugh why did you guys have to make it exciting when I tried to sleep

BS, are you making the setup spec remarks based on experience or is there a resource we could all read for help deciphering this?
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:56 pm

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In post 3000, Nauci wrote:BV/BS/TW (TW gambiting fake claimingas VT whyyyyyyy?)
this is actually my read rn but I think bernie is fakeclaiming
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:57 pm

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In post 3001, the worst wrote:
In post 3000, Nauci wrote:BV/BS/TW (TW gambiting fake claimingas VT whyyyyyyy?)
this is actually my read rn but I think bernie is fakeclaiming
y tho
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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:01 pm

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In post 2995, Bernie Sanders wrote:VOTE: blackvoid

this might sound insane, but tracker alone isnt nearly enough invest power especially if there's either a roleblocker or joat for scum as well
ordinarily I wouldn't setup spec at this point but I don't really think there's a big unclaimed town investigative here but balance wise there really really should be
u fockin' wot m8
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:06 pm

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In post 3002, Nauci wrote:
In post 3001, the worst wrote:
In post 3000, Nauci wrote:BV/BS/TW (TW gambiting fake claimingas VT whyyyyyyy?)
this is actually my read rn but I think bernie is fakeclaiming
y tho
bc ik I'm not
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:02 pm

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VOTE: the worst
have to think this through tomorrow but I would feel really stupid if we lynched bv and he was town here
also tw-BV probably isn't actually a thing tbh
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:06 pm

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worst case scenario is duck flips town but then that still confirms BVscum at least
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:10 pm

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but even that would require scum have a redirect of some form and probably not the case in a vaccuum
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:14 pm

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you said tw didn't go anywhere

from your pov he can't have gotten a gunsmith guilty last night on bv

like irregardless of bv's alignment tw is lying from your pov, unless you were literally like re-directed (not normal i think) and i think that's incredibly unlikely given that you were rb'd
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:51 pm

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In post 3007, Bernie Sanders wrote:but even that would require scum have a redirect of some form and probably not the case in a vaccuum
Who did you try to target n1
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:56 pm

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Nauci what's your justification for BS/TW being possible
did another ms user do something lovely? recognize their achievements here!

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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:18 pm

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In post 3010, Errantparabola wrote:Nauci what's your justification for BS/TW being possible
I'm not sure if I see a reason to totally rule it out I guess?

It might belong in unlikely, but I don't know if there's a logical reason to rule it out
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:35 pm

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In post 2908, Bernie Sanders wrote:TW definitely did not gunsmith check anyone last night.
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:42 pm

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VOTE: TheWorst

I'm pretty sure 1-shot BP doesn't show as having a gun and besides Rask also has the result of TheWorst not visiting me.

@skitter, MathDino didn't soft directly but he was implying that he was laying low in and .
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:45 pm

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Also, Rask take a breath and stop going off the deep end. The number of times you voted me this game is giving me whiplash and it feels so ironic that after our last game where I misread you, you are intent on misreading me to the point you're creating intricate scenarios where I'm scum even after a TheWorst scumflip.

TheWorst -> Nauci wins it I'm pretty sure.
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:47 pm

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L-1 by the way and perfectly okay with hammer.
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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:11 pm

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Something I wanted to comment on right before I left, I had some misgivings about my Irrelephant read. Basically came down to feeling like there was some genuineness behind his push on me/trying to figure out my alignment. It's going to take some substantial re-evaluation of the game to actually consider a town-Irrelephant worldview considering how certain I was most of the game but I did feel like Nauci was taking advantage of the fact that me and Irrelephant were tunneling each other and tried to pocket him and push back on me since I wanted her dead anyway.

Errant's reaction was very town. That's not even counting the fact that I don't think he and TheWorst orchestrated this after all that happened.

So, here's where I'm at:

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Not_Mafia


Irrelephant11
Keyser Soze


Nauci
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First four are confident townreads. Not_Mafia not so much. I explained why in an earlier post. Irrelephant and Keyser are null for different reasons. Irrelephant because of what I just said. Keyser is someone I've decided that I want to read through at some point and just been putting it off forever because of how he formats his posts makes me really not want to do it. So, I'll give those a once over.

Nauci latching onto Rask's paranoia and claiming that me and TheWorst are BOTH scum together is pretty much exactly in line with how I'd expect scum to behave. She can't really afford to let me be widely townread with how much I'm pushing her and she can't nightkill me because she's got to do Rask first because of tracker claim.

I'll definitely look through all four of N_M, Keyser, Irrelephant, Nauci before making a final decision tomorrow but I'd be surprised if it wasn't just Nauci.
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:26 pm

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let Not_Mafia have the hammer, I'm sure he wagon hopped for this moment.
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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:27 pm

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still flipping town even night gunsmith and if you fucks don't chainsaw through BV=>skitter with extreme prejudice I'll be so shook
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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:40 pm

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In post 2991, skitter30 wrote:@brass: I dont know if this was said anywhere but is it known if scum can kill and use a role/ability on the same night?
This is not known.
I've only made one good post, and don't you dare accuse me of doing it again.
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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:42 pm

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In post 3018, the worst wrote:still flipping town
Scum-Bernie Sanders was being town read by the majority of the playerlist.
Scum-Bernie Sanders did not need to fakeclaim a highly informative PR.
Scum-Bernie Sanders did not need to fake an investigation to say you didn't move N2.
Scum-Bernie Sanders did not need to set himself up for a reflex lynch.
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:48 pm

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In post 3006, Bernie Sanders wrote:worst case scenario is duck flips town but then that still confirms BVscum at least
Woke up out of fever sleep because my brain was yelling WHY IS BS SAYING TW MIGHT BE TOWN IF HE LIED

UNVOTE:

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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:51 pm

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TIL BV was scumreading/pushing me

I must have skipped those posts?
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:55 pm

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Tw still hasn't answered why he said he was probably the nk for n1

I need BS to explain the paranoia though
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:55 pm

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Is
Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia
normal
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In post 5096, brassherald wrote:
In post 5095, brassherald wrote:/in to mod

Game Name:
American Presidents Mafia
Flavor/Mechanics:
In the distant future, a crisis of corruption in the United States Senate requires 13 senators to submit their DNA and work with an American President that most fits their personality.
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