Mini 2018 - American Presidents Mafia (Game Over)

[Nauci]

UNVOTE:

[Nauci]

Scum NM is plausible, yeah, but soooomebody read my post <3

If we lose this game Skitter is probably the most skilled scum of all time or something

(I mostly did the vote stuff for myself so I can have an easier time reading the game and practice some software design stuff but shared it here because it might be useful to see all vote history at a glance. I'll likely be using a simplified and modified form to moderate games, but I'm sure as hell not trying this hard again regardless of alignment)

[Nauci]

Scum EP isn't ruled out because TW flipped red, btw. Check there as well if I'm wrong.

[Not_Mafia]

I’m town

[Gustavo]

VOTE: not mafia

[Errantparabola]

Normally I’d be pretty pissed that somehow Nauci still finds a reason to inexplicably throw shade on me but with this many clears I’m fine with eating a lynch

[Nauci]

I mean

We're literally talking about the line of conftown vs not conftown here, not the scummy/not scummy.

[Keyser Söze]

Yes, I can confirm I am a Vanilla Townie.

Will conduct a thorough re-read before committing to a vote.

[Keyser Söze]

Is a mass roleclaim necessary at this point?

[Keyser Söze]

I got the no result n1 (tried to check N_M there FTR) and asked mod to specify it actually was a no result and not a no-visit. This one is clearly a no-visit.

So we’re hunting a mafia roleblocker?

What other roles would give a ‘no-visit’ result for when BS investigated N_M?

[Nauci]

Oops I somehow missed that he started NM n1. That's big

I think the only "no result" ones would be roleblocker or jailer? Ninja would give "no visit"

[brassherald]

VC tomorrow, sorry to skip the first one of the day.

[Keyser Söze]

Oops I somehow missed that he started NM n1. That's big

I think the only "no result" ones would be roleblocker or jailer? Ninja would give "no visit"

So we’re dealing with a Mafia ninja then..?

I did wonder why Mafia didn’t just roleblock BS (create some WIFOM for that slot, you weren’t even 100% sold on the town tracker claim) and NK Skitters, another mass town read player / possible TPR?

[brassherald]

Abraham Lincoln was the tallest American President at 6'4".

Votecount 4.01

Not_Mafia (3)

~ BlackVoid, Errantparabola, Gustavo

BlackVoid (1)

~ Irrelephant11

Not Voting (4)

~ Not_Mafia, skitter30, Keyser Soze, Nauci

With 8 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2018-08-01 08:00:00)

[Keyser Söze]

Is Nauci in theory t/cleared here?


I.e
- scum-Nauci wouldn’t t/clear two townies
- scum-Nauci wouldn’t dare fakeclaim the investigative TPR we’ve been expecting in the setup?
- scum-Nauci wouldn’t expect town to keep her in the game if she survives subsequent night phases?

[Nauci]

Oops I somehow missed that he started NM n1. That's big

I think the only "no result" ones would be roleblocker or jailer? Ninja would give "no visit"

So we’re dealing with a Mafia ninja then..?

I did wonder why Mafia didn’t just roleblock BS (create some WIFOM for that slot, you weren’t even 100% sold on the town tracker claim) and NK Skitters, another mass town read player / possible TPR?

?

He specifically said that on night 1 he tried to track NM and got "no result." Night 2 he tracked TW and got "no visit."

Indicating there's a roleblocker or he was jailed (and I'm guessing there's no jailer).

[Keyser Söze]

Oh I understand the terms now, so mafia roleblocker.

[Keyser Söze]

Do you wanna see something funny? Remember Invisibility...? Before she replaced out she nailed two of the three scum...



Invisibility's (Not_Mafia slot) D1 posts on

Momrangal

and

GeminiTwin12

before replacing out:

"

VOTE: Momrangal

your name makes me feel unpleasant"

"i'm feeling most nervous about this

VOTE: GeminiTwin12

3/4 of her posts are rehashes/easy to make
i would like to see more from her"

"i guess i can see mom's reason for suspicion but like it still isn't a good read, especially after now because mom should have more thoughts than just me seeming tryhardy"

"i want to scumread mom but it feels wrong to scumread mom right now"

The two players she expressed the most suspicion on were the momrangel and the worst slots. Invisibility also expressed town reads on: Shoshin, stungun, Keyser, skitter...


Now was this town-Invisibility having an excellent game, solving the game in under 10 posts...?
Or was this scum-Invisibility making an uncomfortable/awkward/timid start to the game, and throwing shade/suspicion on her two scum teammates? Momrangal's early D1 infatuation/tunnel of the invisibility slot makes this series of interactions that even more so suspicious

[Nauci]

Is Nauci in theory t/cleared here?


I.e
- scum-Nauci wouldn’t t/clear two townies
- scum-Nauci wouldn’t dare fakeclaim the investigative TPR we’ve been expecting in the setup?
- scum-Nauci wouldn’t expect town to keep her in the game if she survives subsequent night phases?

-I don't expect to be alive tomorrow; that would just be silly
-do you think I've been crumbing BV in my vote counts since there middle of day 2 and Irrelephant+bv day 3 because.....?
-seriously if you think there's even a slight possibility I'm lying here I'm going to ragecry buckets and never come back

Irrelephant/Keyser/I are conftown (ffs if bv isn't scum I'll be dead tomorrow)
Skitter is Towny af
Errant is almost definitely town, or deserves a daytime Emmy at the least
Gustavo is almost definitely town, or deserves a night time Emmy for outstanding Gambitting

We have 3 tries and a pool of 2 potential scum

Don't fuck this up

Someone read my post and interact with it ffs

I'm never putting this much effort in a game again

Anyone who said I don't explain my reads but didn't read my very large posts should tell me so I can

be salty at you forever

learn which parts of my efforts were worth the repetitive stress injuries kthxbai

[Nauci]

Do you wanna see something funny? Remember Invisibility...? Before she replaced out she nailed two of the three scum...



Invisibility's (Not_Mafia slot) D1 posts on

Momrangal

and

GeminiTwin12

before replacing out:

"

VOTE: Momrangal

your name makes me feel unpleasant"

"i'm feeling most nervous about this

VOTE: GeminiTwin12

3/4 of her posts are rehashes/easy to make
i would like to see more from her"

"i guess i can see mom's reason for suspicion but like it still isn't a good read, especially after now because mom should have more thoughts than just me seeming tryhardy"

"i want to scumread mom but it feels wrong to scumread mom right now"

The two players she expressed the most suspicion on were the momrangel and the worst slots. Invisibility also expressed town reads on: Shoshin, stungun, Keyser, skitter...


Now was this town-Invisibility having an excellent game, solving the game in under 10 posts...?
Or was this scum-Invisibility making an uncomfortable/awkward/timid start to the game, and throwing shade/suspicion on her two scum teammates? Momrangal's early D1 infatuation/tunnel of the invisibility slot makes this series of interactions that even more so suspicious

Well bussing is still a fad here and it was not one of nm's obvtown games by a very long shot

[Nauci]

Invis's pronoun is listed as he btw

[Keyser Söze]

I was asking if you were in theory town cleared here (as in, does everyone agree with me).

I wasn't calling you scum.

Calm down.

[Keyser Söze]

I wanted BV to address all your points in his own words before I shared my own opinion.

[Keyser Söze]

@Nauci
- you ever seen any setups with a (weakened?) doctor and a 1-shot bulletproof townie?

I.e does it make sense balance wise?

[Gustavo]

Do you wanna see something funny? Remember Invisibility...? Before she replaced out she nailed two of the three scum...



Invisibility's (Not_Mafia slot) D1 posts on

Momrangal

and

GeminiTwin12

before replacing out:

"

VOTE: Momrangal

your name makes me feel unpleasant"

"i'm feeling most nervous about this

VOTE: GeminiTwin12

3/4 of her posts are rehashes/easy to make
i would like to see more from her"

"i guess i can see mom's reason for suspicion but like it still isn't a good read, especially after now because mom should have more thoughts than just me seeming tryhardy"

"i want to scumread mom but it feels wrong to scumread mom right now"

The two players she expressed the most suspicion on were the momrangel and the worst slots. Invisibility also expressed town reads on: Shoshin, stungun, Keyser, skitter...


Now was this town-Invisibility having an excellent game, solving the game in under 10 posts...?
Or was this scum-Invisibility making an uncomfortable/awkward/timid start to the game, and throwing shade/suspicion on her two scum teammates? Momrangal's early D1 infatuation/tunnel of the invisibility slot makes this series of interactions that even more so suspicious

Interesting