Forgotten Hourglass [Game Over]

[Sakura Hana]

Everyone that reads that post and still thinks Kats is scum they need to get their heart checked.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Seems like quite the dilemma.

isn't it just

Would Nos be this disengaged as scum?

Yes

yes

anyway i want to lynch sakura, moment, and maybe muffin.

those all seem town.

eeee matt a lil scummy

Mylo posted content? Where the Fs my head at, I missed it.

way out in the water
see it swimming

Why did you vote Wisdom?

he seems a little out of it

UNVOTE: Nos

[projectmatt]

yeah, katsuki is town

[Nosferatu]

UNVOTE: Nos

[Nosferatu]

UNVOTE: Nos

what in that post made you unvote

Everyone that reads that post and still thinks Kats is scum they need to get their heart checked.

thats a stretch. the only obvious conclusion from that ate (which i believe) is that kats doesnt like dunnstral.

[Nancy Drew 39]

he seems a little out of it

this is a little short so I guess you can't really see what I mean.

I've never played a game with Wisdom where I had more posts than wisdom.
in itself posting less than usual is easily seen as scummy but I don't really think it matters with most people unless its publicly known that they hate a certain role/alignment
so when i noticed that I didn't see wisdom spamming it up i sort of got a lil sus but then i started to think that wisdom's not an idiot and probably knows this
thus as scum would probably post some filler shit to get it so ostensibly he's posting as often as he normally might as town
but i mean that's a lot of effort for no reason and this game has been pretty slow for the most part so its possible that he's just disengaged in general
so i voted him to see what would happen, which in the end is all a vote is really for
its not so much as a reaction test as much at is to see the level of involvement in the game, as people are generally self-centered and care when there's a vote on them.
at the same time i myself aren't that interested in the game atm and probably dont care about the votes on me as much as i probably should.
and he's posted since then and made no reference to the vote.
which would indicated that he either hasn't read the thread or chose not to acknowledge it.
but since he responded to kats post on that page its pretty obvious that he read it and chose not to acknowledge it
and this decision can be interpreted many ways based on this.
either he doesn't care, doesn't feel threatened, or wants to create the illusion of either of the two.
i await more evidence to any of the the 3

outside of that this game continually fails to interest me.

I dunno based on Labrynth game, It could be NAI?

[Dunnstral]

I'm not claiming ever this day so if town want to go ahead and lynch me you guys deserve to lose.

I don't mind game throwing. Not with this punk ass bitch who wants to spend the entire game trying to put words in my mouth while calling me scum and wonder why I refuse to play mafia with him.

I tried to WOTO but FG didn't let. I've only ever destroyed most of the FG games I've played in as town but if this is the path we're going towards I'm fine with playing against my wincon. I'd sooner throw than play another game with Dunnstral.

VOTE: KATSUKI

1) I didn't do anything to you

2) I didn't put words in your mouth, I quoted your own posts and asked you to explain them. You implied that I was scum so what's the dead with that? You implied Wisdom was scum so what's the deal with that? If I'm wrong then tell me how, but that's the way I see it

3) You really need to control yourself, me voting you isn't a reason to go off on me and to threaten gamethrowing

[Sakura Hana]

thats a stretch. the only obvious conclusion from that ate (which i believe) is that kats doesnt like dunnstral.

Possibly, but those parts about "town deserving to lose" and what not, feel like town AtE.

[Nancy Drew 39]

UNVOTE: Nos

what in that post made you unvote

Everyone that reads that post and still thinks Kats is scum they need to get their heart checked.

thats a stretch. the only obvious conclusion from that ate (which i believe) is that kats doesnt like dunnstral.

I liked your reads as well as your thought process in the Wisdom post.

[Nosferatu]

I dunno based on Labrynth game, It could be NAI?

its an action that in itself could be either alignment but the motivations behind it are very one or the other. you could still say nai but thats lazy imo.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Wisdom

I'll move on

[Dunnstral]

Reason for vote is that I expect him to be more engaged/doing more as town

[Nosferatu]

I liked your reads as well as your thought process in the Wisdom post.

i know that, the question was obligatory.

thats a stretch. the only obvious conclusion from that ate (which i believe) is that kats doesnt like dunnstral.

Possibly, but those parts about "town deserving to lose" and what not, feel like town AtE.

i just disagree ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Nancy Drew 39]

So, help us find scum then. I don’t want to mislynch you but I have no idea who to vote for. But you were different in Minuet than here. Why did you Sheep Katsuki in voting me?

hard to find scum when imo people are doing predominantly nai things
i dont think i was different in minuet from here d1 other than just spitting out townreads every now and again
i didnt really sheep kats

why do you think i need a reason to vote you

I gut like this post

Who would you be ok voting Maria?

Brain>You>Kat>Sakura>Muffin

Why? And why do you keep misspelling Brian’s name?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I dunno based on Labrynth game, It could be NAI?

its an action that in itself could be either alignment but the motivations behind it are very one or the other. you could still say nai but thats lazy imo.

He posted a lot as scum in that game.

[Nosferatu]

I dunno based on Labrynth game, It could be NAI?

its an action that in itself could be either alignment but the motivations behind it are very one or the other. you could still say nai but thats lazy imo.

He posted a lot as scum in that game.

i acknowledge that in my whole reasoning thing that you thought was town.

[Sakura Hana]

I dont even know what I wanna do anymore.
This game just feels like a big ball of mist.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I liked your reads as well as your thought process in the Wisdom post.

i know that, the question was obligatory.

thats a stretch. the only obvious conclusion from that ate (which i believe) is that kats doesnt like dunnstral.

Possibly, but those parts about "town deserving to lose" and what not, feel like town AtE.

i just disagree ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Town deserving to.lose sounds anti-town anyway.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I dunno based on Labrynth game, It could be NAI?

its an action that in itself could be either alignment but the motivations behind it are very one or the other. you could still say nai but thats lazy imo.

He posted a lot as scum in that game.

i acknowledge that in my whole reasoning thing that you thought was town.

Well he could be scum, I suppose. I’ve only played that one game with him where he was scum.

[Brian Skies]

I dont even know what I wanna do anymore.
This game just feels like a big ball of mist.

We could go back to lynching Mylo, but I want Maria to apologize to that wagon and tell it that it's beautiful.

[Sakura Hana]

Happy bday Brian!
As a present, Maria's forced to spell your name correctly for the next 24 hours!

Anyway, yeah sure i could swing back to MyLo, im really having a slow progress getting reads this game.

[Brian Skies]

Thank you!

[Dunnstral]

The first thing to look at is Spiffeh, their ISO and their wagon. Let's do this!

My first (Kinda easy) impression is that this a bit more of a 'trolly' kind of player so I'll have to be careful with that.

Posts like 54 and 70 seem suspicious but that's likely just the trolly nature and for now I'll treat them as NAI

157 is a solid post, and VOTE: 466 pings me as town.

475 is an interesting post, not sure if I should believe it but if the logic is true than I would also add a townread to it.

508 annoys me a bit because it just doesn't explain reasons which is a pet peeve of mine.

659 is also a post I see coming from town, admitting to not having many scumreads but also explaining reasoning for his suspicions. Most of their language use also seems genuine here too.

707 is a post that doesn't look good at all, the "I'm too good at scum." thinking isn't one I feel is a town one, at least not a sensible town mindset.


And that's it for their ISO. My conclusion is they seem a bit trolly in their game style, but honestly I'm actually town reading them here. Now to check up on the wagon next!

Okay, first thing to note is Dunn is a double voter, which from experience is generally more town, but I actually have to analyse and can't get away with just assuming that.

Wisdom seems to have started the wagon in 273 (Despite already voting them from 114 ) And... they gave no reason why. They just voted them and said "Everyone looks like scum" without reasonings, which is again a pet peeve of mine. I've also played with Wisdom before, but the confusing part is that from what I've seen they put in more effort as both alignments anyway? So I have zero idea meta wise what they are, but from play there certainly isn't anything to indicate town here.

Ank is next with yet another unexplained vote on Spiffeh 301 and also trying the whole "Let's not post reasoning" trick later in their ISO. I also understand Spffeh's point on Ank clearer now, so I'll even add more town points to them. Ank themself has changed their meta since I last played with them, so I'm kinda empty there.

Dunn votes with *Drum rolls* Actual Reasoning! In 653 Dunn actually explains his evidence for his vote. The only minor issue is I kinda don't really agree with him? Like, Spiffeh's case on Dunn isn't very good imo, but at the same time I don't think that really makes him scummy? But I give him points for actually explaining his vote, and honestly he's getting a bit of a townread from me.


Got to go, will get back to this. But this is a nice start for now!

What do you guys think about this?

[Sakura Hana]

Didn't like.
Looks like busywork.

[Brian Skies]

I was mostly confused why you were wagoning ninja if you had legit scumreads

To answer your question, I'm a big picture reader (although I can and do tunnel if I feel really strongly about something).

So if someone is literally just not providing me content, then I will go after them until I get something I can try and read them off of. I have no issue lynching lurkers, and I'd rather mislynch a practically nonexistent slot than lose to someone that is doing literally nothing.

This is different than players like Wisdom or Kokichi who do post and I'm just not sure how to read them.

Yes, I have (had) scumreads, but I didn't feel strongly about any of them, and wanted to go after someone that I thought could be scum and was possibly obfuscating my ability to draw alignments and connections.