In post 1680, nancy wrote:Oh hey, iceman still didn't talk about what scum got revealed from his hammer. Fancy that
What has you thinking nancy is Scum again?In post 1777, IcemanCh wrote:VOTE: eragon
I have three possible scums at the moment. Eragon, FF, Nancy. I don't think Quick is Scum and I'm not really sure where my head is at with Nancy and FF. I feel fairly comfortable with a vote on Eragon.
In post 1779, Quick wrote:What has you thinking nancy is Scum again?In post 1777, IcemanCh wrote:VOTE: eragon
I have three possible scums at the moment. Eragon, FF, Nancy. I don't think Quick is Scum and I'm not really sure where my head is at with Nancy and FF. I feel fairly comfortable with a vote on Eragon.
In post 1780, nancy wrote:He thinks I'm scum because I unvoted when I thought eragon was at L-1.
Also, eragon isn't at l-1 iceman.
In post 1780, nancy wrote:He thinks I'm scum because I unvoted when I thought eragon was at L-1.
Also, eragon isn't at l-1 iceman.
Well, I guess we put that to the test with Eragon...In post 1781, IcemanCh wrote:In post 1779, Quick wrote:What has you thinking nancy is Scum again?In post 1777, IcemanCh wrote:VOTE: eragon
I have three possible scums at the moment. Eragon, FF, Nancy. I don't think Quick is Scum and I'm not really sure where my head is at with Nancy and FF. I feel fairly comfortable with a vote on Eragon.
Tin-Foil mostly.
To me what I see is that every time town starts to gain steam and go in a particular direction it is immediately derailed by Nancy. It's almost predictable that when we all start moving in one direction there's a Nancy post tearing it apart and forcing us in a different direction. Now, normally this isn't bad. We need to be right when we lynch. It just seems too coincidental every time though.
Like even right now she say Ice is town and then a few post later makes it seem like I'm 100% conf scum to her. I think it might just be joking around but, it's still there.
The entire vote thing super rubbed me wrong too. Town's greatest tool is the lynch and threat of lynch. A wagon only kind of has meaning before a threat to hammer. Most of the games I've been in so far the most valuable information comes from the intent to hammer. That's when everyone on the wagon has to either affirm their conviction or give a damn good reason to get off the wagon. It's also the point where very real pressure is being applied to the person being wagoned. It's when claims are made and mistakes are either made by scum or not. Every time we got close to getting real pressure put on someone Nancy jumped off. That's fine .... if you have a good reason. And, I'm sorry but, jumping off only because you don't want to lynch yet is just straight up wrong. Maybe, do it once... fine but, she's done it what? four times. That to me is a scum trying to get town to go bonkers and second guess everything. It's worked too. Look at our Day 1. Town was EVERYWHERE. They should be at first but, as the day wears on things should start to salitify and town should start somewhat working together.
In post 1785, Skygazer wrote:Ice, do you think scum-nancy would bus scum-eragon rather than go for a quick lynch (pardon the pun) in this game state?
(that's not a leading question, I'm genuinely curious and want to see your thought process)
The only problem with your nancy going after FF theory is that nancy has been hard Town reading FF pretty much all game.In post 1786, IcemanCh wrote:TLDR: If Nancy and Eragon are scum then it makes sense for her vote to be on him right now instead of one of the other wagons. I don't see her ever lynching Quick. The only real option would be FF. I don't see her letting Eragon get lynched just yet either unless town really picked up steam on scum reading him and getting on it.
In post 896, IcemanCh wrote:If we look at pure name recogintion and participation. Would anyone disagree that Eragon, Flicker, and WhyMafia float to the top as possible scum?
FF has been super engaged and consistent.
Trinity has been floating around but, in the mix with everyone else.
Oka has been crazy invovled even if I have a feeling he's scum.
Nancy.... I mean do we need more?
Quick.... well I don't like him for town. I think he's scum but, he's engaged a lot.
So does it seem odd that if I had to award participation awards I wouldn't give them to Eragon, Flicker, and WhyMafia?
They appear long enough to give reads and then gone.
Maybe, I'm nuts.
In post 1557, IcemanCh wrote:In post 1554, Eragon wrote:and why is having a long day bad?
The long day isn't so bad but, we're on page 63 with (what I feel is) very little actual information. Maybe, I'm just a bit frustrated but, I'll get over it.
In post 1561, IcemanCh wrote:Here are my horriable reads at the moment.
Oka - Town. Blew my mind too but yea. I'm feeling oka as town right now. I don't know why but, the post about Eragon just made sense to me and things like that tend to make me think town.
Eragon - Scum. It's pretty scummy IMO to not vote until everyone else does. Get in there and get messy. Stop sitting on the sidelines. Scum sits on sidelines.
FF - Scum. I always get suspicious of people defending me. Sorry, I tried not to feel scummy about it but now I do. Plus while I get what you're saying about your play from previous games you have to understand that it's all I have to go on.
Nancy - Scum. Leading town around even subconsciously is pretty scummy. I will say this. Anyone who uses my entire spiel about the IC being suspicious had better drop it. I don't care what read I have on Nancy. If scum takes me to LyLo I'm going to be sheeping her 100%. No questions. Whatever she votes I vote. So don't you dare take me to LyLo.
WhyMafia - Town. This one is harder to explain. Call it gut. I hate calling it gut though cause as a townie I should be able to logically explain where I'm at. I can't though.....
Quick - Town. I want to say scum but I can't. I think Quick's approach is so different from my own that I want to call him scum for it but he's been 100% consistent with it and I have to sit back and say that there isn't actually anything scummy there.
In post 1777, IcemanCh wrote:VOTE: eragon
I have three possible scums at the moment. Eragon, FF, Nancy. I don't think Quick is Scum and I'm not really sure where my head is at with Nancy and FF. I feel fairly comfortable with a vote on Eragon.
In post 1786, IcemanCh wrote:In post 1785, Skygazer wrote:Ice, do you think scum-nancy would bus scum-eragon rather than go for a quick lynch (pardon the pun) in this game state?
(that's not a leading question, I'm genuinely curious and want to see your thought process)
I'm not really sure how to answer that to be honest. I struggle sometimes with understanding how those types of reads are made. The only thing that I could even attempt to do is tell what I would do.
The answer is no. If I was Nancy and Eragon was my scum buddy I wouldn't at this point bus him. By bus I mean go through with a lynch and get everyone else on board. I also wouldn't' push Quick. It's too obvious. Let town simmer and stew of awhile. If they land on Eragon then I'm already on Eragon and it wouldn't be an obvious bus but I would get towncred for it. If the wagon stays on Quick for a while maybe I could jump on it but, it would be really difficult because I (Nancy) have been steady town reading him through out the game. So I would have to come up with a good reason for it. Also, worth noting is that most everyone has a scum read on Eragon right now. So it makes sense for her vote to be there in case town get's tired of playing with other and decides to finish a lynch on Eragon.
I think the better lynch (if I was Nancy and scum and Eragon was my partner) would be FF.
Does that make sense?
TLDR: If Nancy and Eragon are scum then it makes sense for her vote to be on him right now instead of one of the other wagons. I don't see her ever lynching Quick. The only real option would be FF. I don't see her letting Eragon get lynched just yet either unless town really picked up steam on scum reading him and getting on it.
Lol.In post 1787, Quick wrote:The only problem with your nancy going after FF theory is that nancy has been hard Town reading FF pretty much all game.In post 1786, IcemanCh wrote:TLDR: If Nancy and Eragon are scum then it makes sense for her vote to be on him right now instead of one of the other wagons. I don't see her ever lynching Quick. The only real option would be FF. I don't see her letting Eragon get lynched just yet either unless town really picked up steam on scum reading him and getting on it.
this was what Nancy put out.In post 1587, nancy wrote:I forgot to comment on Eragon. Was gonna wait and make it a big proper post. He may have spewed Iceman town by saying Iceman was in his PoE then calling him newbtown then saying he was scumreading him. They probably maybe aren't together. All of his posts that I read so far seem really agenda-y and his NKA feels like he has an informed PoV. Would be flabbergasted if he ever flipped town atm, and I only bust that word out for really special occasions.