NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Nosferatu]

i dont get it ngl

[Almost50]

I see zero value in speculating on multiball until we get concrete, explicit evidence that something like that is going on

I have concrete explicit evidence that this either multiball, single ball, single ball with 3P , or a troll game. (The latter is only theoretical though because this is the thread for normal games).

[Almost50]

NOT IF I NK YOU FIRST

We're right behind you, boss.

[Almost50]

[L-4]

xyzzy - Raskolnikov, the worst, Almost50, Taly

VOTE: xyzzy

VOTE: Xyzzy

VOTE: xyzzy

That's L-3

WHAT???

VOTE: xyzzy

Interesting!

VOTE: xyzzy

L-1

claim and stuff

Even more interesting!

Oh, and I forgot to mention

meh

VOTE: profii

This was after the hammer!

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: almost50

[profii]

What. I went off Chickodees l-3

[profii]

Which slot is nos?

[Almost50]

VOTE: almost50

Yeah, let's turn this game around.

VOTE: Rask

[Ausuka]

Ugh

[Ausuka]

OK so I might be a bit spammy this twilight because I don't want to put effort into writing a post and then lose it all.

The most important thing to remember is that MOI is scum not just on role but on play too. His recent ISO is pretty scummy I think, and I've given my thoughts sorry about him.

[MagnaofIllusion]

OK so I might be a bit spammy this twilight because I don't want to put effort into writing a post and then lose it all.

The most important thing to remember is that MOI is scum not just on role but on play too. His recent ISO is pretty scummy I think, and I've given my thoughts sorry about him.

As a reminder in twilight when I flip Town hang this double time because it is scum.

Double points for “speculating” on multiball but then posting the “ugh” post showing 100% confidence in a Town Xyzzy flip.

Multiball spec is scum smoke screening.

[Ausuka]

OK so I might be a bit spammy this twilight because I don't want to put effort into writing a post and then lose it all.

The most important thing to remember is that MOI is scum not just on role but on play too. His recent ISO is pretty scummy I think, and I've given my thoughts about him.

Phoneposting is awful.

Anyway Andy slot is towny under Andrius. Nosferatu has been bad so far and I think it's pretty easy to see why. If he doesn't turn it around he's a decent lynch later assuming MOI doesn't flip scum.

Taly's town in a surface level way but please be wary of him. He is capable of being surface level obvtown as scum. If it's multiball the 3 scum thing is damning and the fact he refuses to talk about claimed players and thinks all the unclaimed players are scum is also fairly damning.

Profii and Chickadee are very likely just unmotivated town. A50 feels genuine and I don't think scum is there. If you want scum in unclaimed players probably vote in {HWS, Sky}

I'm going to look foolish if I survive after this I realise but the chances of that happening seem fairly low.

MOI the "ugh" comment was at the surprise hammer not the xyzzy lynch. Even if that wasn't the case saying that an "ugh" somehow means 100% confidence is laughable. Similar to the implication that an understanding of Normal rules is scum indicative, actually.

Oh and also, are you going to be voting Jingle too? And also Rask because he called the speculation good analysis? We must be very committed to this 'smokescreen' that doesn't really provide scum any benefit.

When I flip town kill MOI with prejudice. Don't WIFOM yourselves out of it. Please.

[Nosferatu]

i dont understand why scum would spec that multiball exists

it seems anti-wincon to introduce the idea that scum are scumhunting too

[Ausuka]

Duckling sorts himself probably.

Gamma slot still town too I think.

Oh yeah and btw Sky slot is probably only scum if it's multiball actually or somehow MOI is green. Otherwise HWS scum is much more likely.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Phoneposting is awful ...

Just want to point out in Ausuka’s first paragraph she was “Nos is a good lynch later assuming MoI doesn’t flip scum”.

Let that logic sink in. I’m a Loyal Vendor. Nos via Andy is 100% confirmed when I am flippped Town. The only way you EVER lynch Nos even with terrible posting is if I flipped scum.

Ausuka isn’t approaching the game from a Town perspective but from a “What can I post that looks Town” perspective.

[Ausuka]

How is that anything but a typing error LMFAO??? Why do I as scum say "You only lynch X if the person claiming an inno on X flips town." Why would anyone post that to look town? Everything you post is full of holes.

[Nosferatu]

so how do fruit vendors work again? only give stuff to town or?

[Ausuka]

so how do fruit vendors work again? only give stuff to town or?

Town loyal fruit Vendor works like that, yes.

[MagnaofIllusion]

i dont understand why scum would spec that multiball exists

it seems anti-wincon to introduce the idea that scum are scumhunting too

It is a by product of having too much knowledge. The most likely reason to way to be parsing Multiball given how N1 went down is to know that your scum team is undersized and be looking for the other scum.

It is a slip but happens often enough to be noted. Kinda like how Brass who as claimed BP makes total sense as a possible Multiball scum suspect but is nowhere to be seen in Ausuka’s last minute “thoughts”

[MagnaofIllusion]

How is that anything but a typing error LMFAO??? Why do I as scum say "You only lynch X if the person claiming an inno on X flips town." Why would anyone post that to look town? Everything you post is full of holes.

Yup total typo. Scum and Town are sooooo close on keyboard and often autocorrect to each other.



I don’t know why you think what you are doing in twilight looks Town. Only you can explain that in the Dead thread or postgame.

[Ausuka]

How is that anything but a typing error LMFAO??? Why do I as scum say "You only lynch X if the person claiming an inno on X flips town." Why would anyone post that to look town? Everything you post is full of holes.

Yup total typo. Scum and Town are sooooo close on keyboard and often autocorrect to each other.



I don’t know why you think what you are doing in twilight looks Town. Only you can explain that in the Dead thread or postgame.

What? I've already said I'm typing from phone. I meant to type does, not doesn't. Doesn't is on the top bar of my phone keyboard. I was typing quickly so didn't notice I clicked on the top bar. You're just making crap up at this point actually I probably shouldn't even talk to you.

[Raskolnikov]

if there's scum in the fruit vendors its probably MoI

[Almost50]

@MoI/@Ausuka: Could you two please take a break from taking bout at each other and concentrate on how that lynch went? Chickadee made a counting "mistake" that I don't think was done "inadvertently". This paved the way for the premature hammer (well, it's not "premature" per se as it is a deadline lynch, but I mean "for someone else to place the hammer not knowing it's a hammer".)

Then Nos votes "after the fact" pretending it's to get xy to L-1 for a claim.

IMHO, Chicka >> Nos >> Profii, so Chicka is now VERY LIKELY SCUM (and I don't care if the Vengful claim is true or false, because Vengeful Scum is a thing).

@MoI: Ausuka is not that convoluted as Scum, I don't think.

[Ausuka]

Vengeful scum isn't normal.

Are people writing this off as TvT just because it's an argument? Please don't do that.

[Raskolnikov]

is it bad that im optimistic xyzzy flips scum