NY214: Project Pinecone (Game over! Town wins!)

[Raskolnikov]

==> Vote Count 3.2 <==

With 13 votes in play, it's 7 to lynch!

Flavor pending.

[L-3]

MagnaofIllusion - Skygazer, profii, Ausuka, Raskolnikov

[L-6]

Ausuka - MagnaofIllusion

[L-7]

brassherald -

[L-7]

the worst -

[L-7]

Gamma Emerald -

[L-7]

Skygazer -

[L-6]

Jingle - Gamma Emerald

[L-7]

Chickadee -

[L-5]

HeWhoSwims - the worst, Chickadee

[L-7]

Raskolnikov -

[L-7]

Taly -

[L-7]

Nosferatu -

[L-7]

Profii -

Nursing their beer (Not voting)

- brassherald, Jingle, HeWhoSwims, Taly, Nosferatu

(expired on 2018-08-18 09:30:00)

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The biggest threat to town now is a scum tracker, if it does exist
Could try to hunt that here
Mmmmm

[Ausuka]

I was thinking he was quite towny actually? Like people were bringing this up a lot earlier but I'm not sure if profii is the kind of person to repeatedly say "I'll join x wagon" and never do it when x is his scumbuddy. People scumlean their buddies a lot but I'm not sure if they do it in this way to their RB? idk.

we can maybe make the assumption that mafia didn't bus their RB which would make this a lot easier? Idk I'm worried that I'm wrongly assuming that this game is solved and that someone widely townread is mafia.

Hunting scum tracker is a good idea unless that's Nosferatu in which case it becomes kinda a pointless endavour and risks outing more non-tracker PRs.

[Ausuka]

dramonic wagon was composed of:

brassherald (hops off for xyzzy later)
Hitalt -> Gamma Emerald (despite profii sring dram he opposes HA on this vote?) (hops off for xyzzy later) (returns after duckling vote)
Inferno -> Jingle
Taly
the worst
HWS (!)
Ausuka

after this claim occured and the wagon was dismantled.

rask perhaps strongest opposition but he's conftown.
Sky and Chick reacted in a meh way. Sky was talking about ha/flubber at this point.
MOI continues to push flubbernugget.

[HeWhoSwims]

I guess I feel honoured for that exclamation mark?

[Ausuka]

I just thought it was something notable in there. I suppose we need to think about if mafia would vote up their RB. Like normally I wouldn't worry about this because scum distance and bus all the time in all sorts of wacky ways but Dram's role seems integral to the setup- was Jailkeeper supposed to be a claim that would let Dram live? Then how would they explain all of the roleblocked important town PRs?

[Ausuka]

Does anyone disagree that there should be at least one scum in {Skygazer, MOI}?

[Skygazer]

I don't disagree with that unless MoI somehow flips town and then I'll wholeheartedly disagree with that :p

I think anyone who voted dram before the claim could be distancing. I think anyone who reaffirmed their vote after the claim but before the pressure disappated are likely town. I think anyone who unvoted is sus and anyone who kept their vote after the pressure disappated could be scum that felt safe distancing. Gonna go look at the votes now to figure that out.

[Ausuka]

I think anyone who voted dram before the claim could be distancing.

I mean I get what you're saying considering that mafia do that all the time but like



Why would you out your RB when it confscums them as soon as they roleblock someone who needs to be roleblocked???

[Skygazer]

That is a good point...

So far I see inferno/Jingle holding their vote after the claim

[Skygazer]

Ausuka/Taly were the early unvoters but Ausuka waited to verify the claim made sense

[Skygazer]

I think HWS's vote and unvote would fit the bill for distancing? He doesn't say anything about dram other than dram is in his lynch pool and he doesn't like any of the posts, votes dram only when it's gaining traction, then states that "the claim is too thought out to be faked" or something along those lines and immediately jumping ship for the next biggest wagon

[Skygazer]

If there was bussing on the dram wagon then I think that's it because I'm townreading Ausuka/Taly and Jingle's slot held strong with the dram vote

HitAlt also held on with the dram vote and it's already been established that TW mechanically can't be scum w dram so I think that's everyone on the wagon

[Raskolnikov]

I mean let's not forget he'd be alive if not for being shot
It's not like he got lynched

[Raskolnikov]

Everyone put together a team of 3 names of scum if moi (and therefore nos too) is town

Hws - informed
Profii - VT claim
Sky? ??? Risky
Taly? ??? Risky
Jingle eeeh follower
Gamma hitalts detect

Don't think gamma hit is scum
I can't reconcile 3 of these names being scum tbh
Hell I really don't think taly is but 3/4 of the rest being scum sounds crazy

[Raskolnikov]

Probably too lenient townreading profii for his thing tbh
Can someone meta him again I can't really via phone tbh

[Ausuka]

I feel like the most accurate way to describe profii's meta is to say he doesn't really have one.

HWS/Sky is actually possible? but I feel like they might need to be paired with a PR? idk. this is where my play becomes really weak because I am terrible at setup speculation but if anyone towny here is good at it you can walk my hand through it and I'll just sheep whatever you say

[Ausuka]

Actually the associatives for HWS/Sky are entirely one sided; that's not to say Sky's interactions with HWS can't come from scum and the bit where she called hws scum by POE and then jumped on someone for SRing him was mildly partner indicative? but otherwise she's been anti HWS pretty consistently and it leans me away from that team.

[Ausuka]

Uhhh I just ISO'd HWS and profii and their interactions are kind of awful????

Like they kinda soft defend each other the entire game and other than that Profii just doesn't talk about HWS. HWS defends profii fairly consistently.

[Skygazer]

If MoI is town then I'd be looking at profii, HWS, and then Taly/Gamma

But Taly is town af and while Gamma's role would be a good scum counter to a SK I don't think that Hit would be so cavalier about outing TW if Hit was scum. If TW is a vig then I think that Gamma has to be town because a scum detective would be such an oddly specific investigative for scum to have while a vig would be a p good counter to a town detective's usefulness.

I agree that town-MoI doesn't make much sense with the remaining playerlist unless Ausuka is scum which I would never see rn.

[Ausuka]

I lean towards HWS/profii/MOI though if HWS and profii are a scumteam. Taly is kind of hardbus territory which I'm not considering yet. So unless we have HWS/profii/Sky or scum!Brass both of which would actually be pretty funny and also unlikely I think MOI would still have to be scum there.

[Ausuka]

Raskolnikov
Gamma Emerald
Chickadee
brassherald

Jingle
Taly

Skygazer
Nosferatu

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profii
HeWhoSwims

MagnaofIllusion

This is kinda simplified but meh. Does anyone other than MOI have major problems with this?

[Nosferatu]

Zzzzzz you're supposed to no comment and potentially avoid some nk heat

unlikely tbh

[HeWhoSwims]

Does anyone else support me in wanting this modifier claim from tw or am I getting stink eye

I just think Profii was suddenly suspected for reasons I either didn't catch correctly or didnt agree with

[the worst]

@HWS duckies are not men! also since I have not said it for a bit I have one tiny reason Taly is town

[the worst]

you're getting stink eye sorry fam <3