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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:33 pm

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VC 1.16Eragon (3): northsidegal, Wh4t,
Dunnstral (2): schadd_, Eragon
Performer (1): Dunnstral
Skygazer (1): Skygazer
Carcalilly (1): Performer

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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:37 pm

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ok actually time for someone else to do the work

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@NSG/Wh4t who say that Eragon is scum by meta: can you explain the difference and provide examples for why that's the case?
@schadd can you show me the meta that you've claimed exists on dunn so I can review it
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:37 pm

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I'll sheep whichever of you guys provides the more compelling case that your scumread is scum.

I would prefer that Performer/Skygazer not go to endgame if our early scumreads don't pan out
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:43 pm

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I'll admit that I haven't, like, deeply metaed Eragon and truth is that reading his ISO I'm like this is probably strongly indicative one way or the other but that way doesn't necessarily have to be scum so I'm kinda blase about it

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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:57 pm

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In post 601, RadiantCowbells wrote:ok actually time for someone else to do the work

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@NSG/Wh4t who say that Eragon is scum by meta: can you explain the difference and provide examples for why that's the case?
@schadd can you show me the meta that you've claimed exists on dunn so I can review it
recent town
half year old scum, reads kinda similar, also similar dearth of posts
recent large theme where he does the obvtown dunn thing but i think u might be familiar with that and also doesn't really necessarily apply

don't remember him in a micro more recently than like a year+ ago
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:58 pm

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actually wow september is like most of a year after november huh
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:59 pm

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on like a basic level the towngame has like nuance and general comments and stuff whereas the scum is like "here is a reason for a thing" "here is a reason for a thing" "person is scummy" and the latter is more close 2 this game
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:00 pm

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truthfully can't put it higher than like a 50% read or anything he might just like not care abt this game
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:01 pm

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I can grok your feelings about it.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:05 pm

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uggh i've been grokked :)......
In post 117, Dunnstral wrote:Kokichi isn't "baiting scum" he's just his normal self

The whole post assumes mafia are primates basically

The reasoning she gave for voting me i "writing posts with zero content" and then fabricating a reason that's scummy (it's not by the way, and this is in the first 2 pages anyway)
this just feels way different and townier than any of the few things he's said this game

Spoiler: nongame @rc
we were doing gen2 random and there were two times where i blindly exploded turn 1 which was really fun

i think it killed something the first time and it almost killed her dewgong or something the second time
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:06 pm

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im doing my northsidegal impression :)

i guess it depends on whether im right
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:13 pm

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i would agree that's townier than anything he's said this game

VOTE: Dunnstral

yeah you can do better if you're town.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:47 pm

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He also posted in like mafia games in general like right before I made this post but skipped this one.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:09 pm

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I guess wh4t doesn't want me to sheep her!
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:47 pm

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Sorry metaing takes effort hold on I'll see if I can find it.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:51 pm

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Skim this and tell me this is his town game.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:30 am

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In post 595, schadd_ wrote:
In post 591, Eragon wrote:meh, im really not sure, i started off slow with a lot of shit being forced out by everyone early and me racing to catchup but never really being fully, caught-up, if you know what i mean?
so im feeling kinda detached here just cause i realyl havent had the time to go through and do much more than surface-level catchup
from what you've seen does it seem like we are close to a gamesolve? are u excited for the flip we end up doing 2day?
1. Meh, I’m not really sure about the gamesolve-y aspect, I feel how I am right now I have at least one scum, if I’m lucky there’s two, but that’s not that big of a feat in 3 out of the other 8 people that I SR.
I’m not doing he math but it’s like 44% that I have at least one scum, notwithstanding reads making t better
2. I’m excited for a flip becuase it gives me a break, does that count?
I do think it will hep solve, and hopefully hit scum, but y’know
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:32 am

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In post 596, Wh4t wrote:
In post 590, Eragon wrote:looking through your ISO i havent seen your "initial suspicion" your talking about, opther than one post where you grouped me with 2-3 other people in "viable lynches" which isnt really a great "suspicion" if you know what i mean.
I have a false memory of discussing how I feel that your meta is quite different from a game where we were both town. You had a strong active presence that I'm not vibing here instead you feel stiff and I want to say LAMISTy?

Could you please give some updated reads?
Depends on how I’m giving the game

That town game, Open 731, was a slower paced game(at least compared to thi) and I was able to go deeper and more thoightful.
It was also a while ago so I’m not sure how exactly it’s relating to this rn

On top of that I personally feel that I’ve kinda ‘outgrown’ a meta and it’s more based on how active I am
731 was duri summer when I had plenty of time, and this is the school year, where literally the only time I can make contentful posts is on the bus
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:33 am

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In post 608, RadiantCowbells wrote:I can grok your feelings about it.
What’s grok?
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:35 am

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I finally have a bit of time on the bus(which needs to be split up between everything I have), but if I just can’t really vibe/get caught up I probably will just replace it so that someone that really has the time to play can hop in
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:48 am

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hey all, returning from v/a over the weekend. Phone posting so unable to go in depth on things at the moment.
haven't gotten the chance to catch up on things yet but for emphasis, my sr of dunn, carca, & sky are still there. Will be following up today
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:31 am

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Sky sry for bullying u early but if you're town we need content from u
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:33 am

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In post 280, Skygazer wrote:if i can be scum with everyone then my flip provides little information either way

checkmate
kinda think this post is more likely to come from town rn
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:50 am

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So Carcalilly, if you're town and trust my reads (and that I'm town obv) the odds of different scum are

Performer 0.46
Skygazer 0.48
Dunnstral 0.54
Eragon 0.52

Much more interestingly, Skygazer, if you accept that I'm somewhat good at the game:

Carcalilly: 0.2972972973
Performer: 0.7027027027
Dunnstral: 0.5405405405
Eragon: 0.4594594595
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:55 am

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I think Dunn is the healthiest place for my vote right now.
Readslist:

{RC}
{NSG}
{Wh4t}
{Schadd}
{Skygazer, Carcalilly}
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{Eragon}
{Performer}
{Dunnstral}
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