A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

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If NR had rolecopped mastina, we would have confirmation/denial of the loyal modifier.

If mastina is a loyal scum gladiator, Kuroi AND Chick are also scum. Mastina is not that dumb.
If mastina is not loyal, she is fakeclaiming scum.

NR's role literally solves the mastina problem.

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Oh, also, I found the game.

NR reminds me of NR from Cheetory's UPick that I balanced. I'm not rereading that mess to see if it holds up under scrutiny.

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She was town there, though, FWIW.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: no lynch

[Creature]

My biggest fear is this being a ploy to waste town lynches.

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Yeah, she has an expiration date. That date isn't today. I'm of the opinion that date should be when she has 5 clears.

Alternatively, if NR gives us a rolecop result on her, she will either be conftownish or actually IN a 1v1.

[Lady Angel]

One particularly interesting thing is how certain NicoRobin is that Mastina is lying, when she supposedly holds a role that can determine this and did not use it to determine this, but is critical of others for being so sure she is telling the truth.



But I mean the visible panic with her interactions with me should be all you need anyway

How does NR’s role do that?

She claimed being a rolecop earlier on the page your post was on.

[Invisibility]

hmm
this pressure is very threatening to my survivalistic self
VOTE: nolynch

[Aristophanes]

Ooo we have a gladiate!

This means Chicka is conftown right?
VOTE: NL

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: No lynch
Boring

[Chickadee]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: No lynch
5 is too much though if nico comes back with no results. 3 fucks town over less if it’s elaborate scum theater.

[Vecna]

Large 214, read it

Would like to point out, having just read this, that the difference between the disloyal scum claiming loyal and mastina claiming loyal as disloyal would be that disloyal fruit vendor could potentially fake an innocent on a partner. Disloyal gladiator could not. Therefore, this comparison is inherently flawed.

Like, mastina claiming loyal as a disloyal scum gladiator would be borderline game throwing because not only would she not be able to survive to endgame, but she would in fact STILL NECESSARILY be clearing townies.

Noone is claiming any of this. The only possibility is Mastina is town, or an ordinary scum gladiator making up the loyal thing. Most likely the first, I admit. But the second shouldnt be ruled out, and Id like you to at least pressure mastina to participate tomorrow and not be above explaining reads when asked to repeatedly.

[NicoRobin]

If NR had rolecopped mastina, we would have confirmation/denial of the loyal modifier.

If mastina is a loyal scum gladiator, Kuroi AND Chick are also scum. Mastina is not that dumb.
If mastina is not loyal, she is fakeclaiming scum.

NR's role literally solves the mastina problem.

Did it not occur to you that I can do it on the next night?

[Vecna]

S'what I thought.

I can't say I expected more, but dammit man you let grudges get in the way too often.

Also, if you give me a gun and don't lynch mastina I'll shoot NR for you.

You do this to gamma emerald instead and it’s a deal.

I don’t care enough about NicoRobin to want her dead

Wait, I can save a hard townread by shooting a null read instead of a townlean?

You realize you're sweetening the pot, right?

Done and done.

You actually still think there is gonna be 12 votes to lynch Mastina here? Like, I understand everyone loves guns, but dont pretend theres any reason otherwise.

[Vecna]

Nah, you are townreading her solely because of her role. If I am wrong and you're also townreading her because of her play.......well, then it would be a different story entirely.

I'm not arguing that she's town because of her play because I shouldn't have to. The role should be more than enough.

With that said, this IS mastina's towngame, and the only real argument to the contrary I've seen is her lack of presence, which has never been an alignment indicative mastina tell.

Youre still ignoring the real arguments. Im starting to get tempted again to push for Mastina's lynch just based solely on this bullshit.

[Vecna]

Nah, you are townreading her solely because of her role. If I am wrong and you're also townreading her because of her play.......well, then it would be a different story entirely.

I'm not arguing that she's town because of her play because I shouldn't have to. The role should be more than enough.

With that said, this IS mastina's towngame, and the only real argument to the contrary I've seen is her lack of presence, which has never been an alignment indicative mastina tell.

Let me welcome you to mastina school of thought, then.

See, now, that's not enough and never will be. Role shouldn't be the sole factor in reading someone. mastina will tell you that herself when she gets here, so I will say no more on the matter.

Yes we get it, role is not indicative of alignment.

Why the fuck is Mastina scum, you silly parrot

[Vecna]

Well, I am not only a triple voter, I am also a rolecop. That's what Porkens wanted me to say, and now I have.

Oh....A tripple-voter rolecop that can talk to people at night somehow?

What was the thing that happened between you and Porkens at night?

[NicoRobin]

Nah, you are townreading her solely because of her role. If I am wrong and you're also townreading her because of her play.......well, then it would be a different story entirely.

I'm not arguing that she's town because of her play because I shouldn't have to. The role should be more than enough.

With that said, this IS mastina's towngame, and the only real argument to the contrary I've seen is her lack of presence, which has never been an alignment indicative mastina tell.

Let me welcome you to mastina school of thought, then.

See, now, that's not enough and never will be. Role shouldn't be the sole factor in reading someone. mastina will tell you that herself when she gets here, so I will say no more on the matter.

Yes we get it, role is not indicative of alignment.

Why the fuck is Mastina scum, you silly parrot

Why is she not?

[Vecna]

One particularly interesting thing is how certain NicoRobin is that Mastina is lying, when she supposedly holds a role that can determine this and did not use it to determine this, but is critical of others for being so sure she is telling the truth.



But I mean the visible panic with her interactions with me should be all you need anyway

Way more interesting question: What result could she possibly have gotten on Porkens role that makes her so sure Mastina is lying about a loyal modifier and thus scum?

Still two pages to go, but this feels a bunch like Porkens puppeteering her somehow.

[Vecna]

Nah, you are townreading her solely because of her role. If I am wrong and you're also townreading her because of her play.......well, then it would be a different story entirely.

I'm not arguing that she's town because of her play because I shouldn't have to. The role should be more than enough.

With that said, this IS mastina's towngame, and the only real argument to the contrary I've seen is her lack of presence, which has never been an alignment indicative mastina tell.

Let me welcome you to mastina school of thought, then.

See, now, that's not enough and never will be. Role shouldn't be the sole factor in reading someone. mastina will tell you that herself when she gets here, so I will say no more on the matter.

Yes we get it, role is not indicative of alignment.

Why the fuck is Mastina scum, you silly parrot

Why is she not?

History has taught me that I suck at reading Mastina and I just get agitated to hell and back by her behavior. Ill be delegating this task, but if she continues to agitate me my vote will return for sure.

[NicoRobin]

And more importantly, why should she get a free pass for lurking - the thing that's in her actual scum repertoire - when I get scumread for lurking over and over again, despite it being a town trait for me?

[Vecna]

She gets a free pass for one more day based on her ability. If I havent seen convincing arguments/play that makes her town by play, Ill be back to lynching her.

[Vecna]

VOTE: No lynch

[Gamma Emerald]

And more importantly, why should she get a free pass for lurking - the thing that's in her actual scum repertoire - when I get scumread for lurking over and over again, despite it being a town trait for me?

Maybe it’s because you also try to abuse that meta

[NicoRobin]

And more importantly, why should she get a free pass for lurking - the thing that's in her actual scum repertoire - when I get scumread for lurking over and over again, despite it being a town trait for me?

Maybe it’s because you also try to abuse that meta

If you don't want be to abuse it, then take it into account yourselves when reading me, something that you refuse to do no matter what. *glare*