A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[jjh927]

The real power is in the bit that is almost certainly gone after the night with no kill when I was hard baiting scum!Nico

[Jingle]

Not the issue at all. I’m serious about wanting to know what percentage of the player list has claimed.

[jjh927]

Oh okay that wasn't a jab mb

[Jingle]

I’ll do an fos votecount when I can computer, not gonna bother on phone.

[NicoRobin]

Yo NicoRobin, is Mastina faking the trigger condition for her gladiate ability

No, she was just lying about being loyal.

Then again, why even ask? You will scumread me no matter what, because that's the only way you can save mastina, and you will ignore any and all posts which don't fit into your narrative.

Get ready to burn when I flip town.

kthxbai

[jjh927]

Hooray she answered

[NicoRobin]

(stop voting Mastina)

Don't do as he says. He is only trying to protect her. Remember that she lied about being loyal. Liars=scum.

[jjh927]

There you go, Jingle. You're sane enough to understand why this solves that problem

[Jingle]

For the record, you’re claiming that you were explicitly told that mastina’s role is triggered by claiming a guilty in the thread?

[jjh927]

She'll have got the whole role PM because that's how well designed rolecops in theme games work

[Lady Angel]

Yo NicoRobin, is Mastina faking the trigger condition for her gladiate ability

Then again, why even ask? You will scumread me no matter what, because that's the only way you can save mastina, and you will ignore any and all posts which don't fit into your narrative.

Get ready to burn when I flip town.

kthxbai

If you're really serious about getting a guilty on Mastina, you may want to stop saying stuff like this.

[jjh927]

She literally wouldn't be lynched as town lmao

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina shouldn’t gladiator nico unless we’re already going to lynch nico. If we choose to have her gladiate while she is the lynch target, she targets not nico so we still get a conftown if nico is faking the guilty. Additionally, if mastina flips disloyal, nico is p town based on use of role and thus a bad cop target anyway. If we’re lynching nico, sure, mastina gladiators there.

Again: what motivation does mastina have to give any more clears as scum? With Ari it was clearly an oversight, but yours looks like misleading.
And btw this is a to everyone that you should probably be eyeing Jingle after mastina flips scum.

[jjh927]

I've taken to ignoring most of what she says now because it's strawman levels of easy to argue against it and then her counterarguments are the same and it just goes on and on and on

[NicoRobin]

No. If she’s scum, a successful disloyal gladiate is still a townclear.

If she’s scum, we don’t have a guaranteed way of lynching scum because she could easily be faking the trigger condition for her gladiate ability to setup a fake guilty.

The only solid way we can be sure of their alignments is if the gladiate is successful, in which case nico is town and mastina is scum. If we decide that that is the likely case anyway, then hell yes I want to have an insurance policy in case we chose wrong.

More excuses not to lynch her ever.......

You are suggesting leaving a possible scum alive till endgame just because she could clear people.......

Scumteam of jjh+Jingle+mastina solidifies.....

[jjh927]

Mastina shouldn’t gladiator nico unless we’re already going to lynch nico. If we choose to have her gladiate while she is the lynch target, she targets not nico so we still get a conftown if nico is faking the guilty. Additionally, if mastina flips disloyal, nico is p town based on use of role and thus a bad cop target anyway. If we’re lynching nico, sure, mastina gladiators there.

Again: what motivation does mastina have to give any more clears as scum? With Ari it was clearly an oversight, but yours looks like misleading.
And btw this is a to everyone that you should probably be eyeing Jingle after mastina flips scum.

You have it the wrong way around

His proposed strat is proscum for scum!Nico, and null for scum!Mastina

[Jingle]

Mastina shouldn’t gladiator nico unless we’re already going to lynch nico. If we choose to have her gladiate while she is the lynch target, she targets not nico so we still get a conftown if nico is faking the guilty. Additionally, if mastina flips disloyal, nico is p town based on use of role and thus a bad cop target anyway. If we’re lynching nico, sure, mastina gladiators there.

Again: what motivation does mastina have to give any more clears as scum? With Ari it was clearly an oversight, but yours looks like misleading.
And btw this is a to everyone that you should probably be eyeing Jingle after mastina flips scum.

Do the words insurance policy mean anything to you?

[Gamma Emerald]

Mastina shouldn’t gladiator nico unless we’re already going to lynch nico. If we choose to have her gladiate while she is the lynch target, she targets not nico so we still get a conftown if nico is faking the guilty. Additionally, if mastina flips disloyal, nico is p town based on use of role and thus a bad cop target anyway. If we’re lynching nico, sure, mastina gladiators there.

Wrong

Town Nico means Scum Mastina - gladiate succeeds
Scum Nico and Town Mastina - gladiate fails
Scum Nico and Scum Mastina - who the fuck knows

We’re in a 1v1. If we decide that mastina is the more likely town, mastina gladiators Nico.
If we decide we’re going to lynch mastina, mastina gladiators not nico and we lynch mastina.
Both of them being scum is extremely unlikely imo.

None of that changes with what you just posted. It’s just the highest ev use of power.

Also, scum disloyal gladiator is still a public daycop for town.

That's fucking terrible logic

jjh gets it

[jjh927]

Also Jingle, I've poked the hole in your plan and Nico took the option which didn't essentially confscum her again. What now?

[NicoRobin]

She literally wouldn't be lynched as town lmao

That's not what I am arguing.

What if she is scum? Would you leave her alive till endgame anyway?

Based on your posts so far and how you already decided that she is town and I am not, I am suspecting you would, because she is your key player.

More reasons why these three are scum......

[jjh927]

No I was talking about you there

[jjh927]

It is physically impossible for you to be lynched as town here because Mastina will attempt to gladiate you and if she refuses then we lynch her

[Jingle]

I’m still waiting for a response, and will respond when I stop having reasons not to.

[jjh927]

So you freaking out and talking about how you will flip town is concerning when that is an impossible scenario and there is no reason for you to be freaking out if you are not scum

[jjh927]

I’m still waiting for a response, and will respond when I stop having reasons not to.

Response to what?