Open 738: Purgatory | LA FIN

[Creature]

You don't seem to have a genuine interest in solving this game.

[Keyser Söze]

UNVOTE:

[the worst]

good unvote, gonna be busy for a bit but lemme think more

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

As in, you think DrJ and Volxen are both scum?

I expressed multiple times I scumread volxen.

Also DrJ didn't seem to do anything other than bugging me for inactivity when like the entire playerlist was inactive.

You still don't get why you are being s/r, do you?

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

I'm not done with labrat, and I want to look at his answers that he's meant to be posting

Yeah, I totally forgot about that
And actually, sorry, I was wrong there. I assumed I answered all of your arguments before, because they seemed really similar to what korina asked me about, but it’s a completely different thing :/ I’ve read it in a weird way
sorry about that

Labrat, well, I'm getting plenty of scum pings there.

I didn't really read so much into his role pm thing, but this posts tone strikes me as odd

ugh, I was talking about the town RC if it wasn't obvious

I was re-reading the thread and noticed that my post could be understood as a disgusting joke
that vote was half-serious, it was not pure RvS, so read it as so

and c'mon, someone write sth
it's boring being here alone

Its the sort of thing scum posts after they realize they hit submit instead of preview
Furthermore It sounds an awful lot like scum trying to push a vote as being nai

Hi o/

D1 is hell, right?
VOTE: labrat

He probably only noticed it because he got it in his rolecard
Lcp aka mr hyde

hi btw, I've read the first 10-ish pages of your first newb game on MS. You played well, I prob wouldn't have been able to catch you

That's what I meant by pocketing.
Then,
This:

yep

do you think you'll be able to read him?

Doesn't really advamce us anywhere and is basically just fluff. Maybe NAI, but I find scum often get by by posting stuff like this. To be fair only post 31.

Those are actually kind of fair. I don’t really see stuff that way, but I get why would it be scum-read

Labrat, well, I'm getting plenty of scum pings there.

friendly reminder that Majority is 5 and duck has 3 votes on him rn

just don't hammer when not even a day has passed since SoD

This is LAMIST as h and a not so subtle reminder than tw has a wagon on him, indirectly encouraging votes.

Actually, encouraging votes, prob yeah? I didn’t think of it that way, but I most prob wouldn’t have minded more people sharing their opinion on TW cuz nothing else was going on and he was my biggest SR back then
And I kinda got freaked out when the wagon on my SR progressed so quickly. My reasoning was rather solid (imo), but it wasn’t a very strong argument and it seemed that people (I don’t remember keyser’s reason for voting, but at least I remember Irrelephant doing that) treated it more strongly than it deserved, which kinda freaked me out

Overall I think Labrat is scum and led a wagon on TW
And when he saw it wasn't going anywhere unvoted

UNVOTE:
Meh, Duck’s posts got so much better. I don’t think I agree with them, but I really like their enthusiasm while talking about their TRs
Not overly townie, but I'm ok with it rn

This just feels to me like scum dropping a case not going anywhere
VOTE: labrat

Can you comment on my reasons for voting duck?
I think I explained it rather well in here

how do you read Key's entrance to the thread btw? I wanna try and sort him as quickly as possible so I can comfortably resume quoting The Usual Suspects and burninating scum.

Was the “I wanna try to sort Key as quick as possible” supposed to be an excuse for asking Left to post reads?

No?
but it def feels that way
OR it feels like your question to Lefty was just an excuse to show off your great town motivations.
Which one do you pick?

I don’t like the previous post either (the one I joked about). It’s prob not directly scum motivated, but it feels a really safe and non-personal way of questioning someone.

can you rephrase this post because it sounds like you're trying to allocate motive to my posting without wanting to appear too forceful which is filthyyyy

if you're asking a question please rephrase it as an open question i can actually give a qualitative answer to if you're town FYI, I don't take well to leading questions because they're manipulative and kill conversation in favour of agenda-forcing.

Underhanded, yeeeah
But effective

That was not exactly a question. The way you combined the request for reads with the explanation of why you’re doing it felt off and lamist.
And kinda buddyish/pocketish now that I look at it
Can you comment on that?

But my first SR is also quoted here, at the top, so you can look at it if you find it more explanatory
Basically, it was just sth that pinged me as weird at the beginning of the game, which could be linked to a scum motivation. Not sth very strong, but still a good read to go off imo.

And now that I think of it, I didn’t ever write a read on TW after that.
I did say that I liked his responses, but it’s not like I focused on making it into a read

idk, TW's posts about DrJ's meta-bias pinged townie and I really liked the enthusiasm in some of his posts
That's not the most brilliant read ever, but it's still not sth I'd want to lynch rn

UNVOTE:
Meh, Duck’s posts got so much better. I don’t think I agree with them, but I really like their enthusiasm while talking about their TRs
Not overly townie, but I'm ok with it rn

And I’m not a fan of volxen’s read on me.
The arguments he uses feel underwhelming compared to how much time was he willing to waste writing it
read prob coming soon

why did you unvote me here if you don't think I'm town but are blindly sheeping others?

I'm clearly wagonable in this gamestate. Look at the VCs for D1.
Why didn't you vote volxen here? Can you show me which parts of it felt underwhelming, and why you think that's scum indicative?

lmao, you're doing the same thing here you accused me of.
if you said the answer to your question inside the question, it's making it difficult for me to answer differently.

I unvoted you because I don't think you're the optimal lynch anymore. My previous read on you was rather flimsy and the new one is flimsy as well, but goes in the other direction
Besides, I think there are better people to push rn that I don't even have a flimsy read on

[snipped]

This should prob be the closest to a read that I’ve posted about T till now? (after his comeback)
Can you comment on that?

And I agree with the read on creat. That’s not sth I’m confident in reading, but it’s also not a player I’d miss much if he was lynched

Regarding your wagon on tw, well, I think your original case was valid but weak.

I could possibly see tw / labrat links there as thats the sort of weak case that many players try to use as business especially combined with #389, but I don't feel like that's the case here. Definitely something I'll be looking at in later days though if you are both still there

All that being said I definitely feel much less like you are scum. Your reaction here to my post feels very town. You tbh had a bit of a bad entrance to the game (the part you quoted at the top of your response) but it's improved considerably since then

N.b. korina is vla for 72 hours, notified mod in the hydra pt

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

Throw me some reasoning

You've played that open where I was IC.

How is that game helping your case?
Sure, you were IC, but you did jackshit to help, much less, your reads weren’t good that game IIRC.
I had to write a wall to get you playing and even then, you didn’t really play.
Your effort that game seems to be similar to this game, and last I checked, you aren’t an IC.
If you weren’t IC that game, I’d have tunnelled you hard about it.

I don’t see how that IC game is helping you here.

Like LCPL said, I am V/LA for 72 hours.
I’d have posted more, however, I’m mobile posting atm, and am on V/LA.
I’ll hopefully be able to post more frequently soon, however, Creature, your IC game isn’t helping us.

Also,, do you have any logic

why

we’re scum, or are you just gonna link your IC game and say that’s good enough?

-Kor

[ManateeDude]

Eragon replaces Carmen, please welcome them

[the worst]

sup

Eragonna kick some scum butt?

[Eragon]

CRAZY DEJA VU @THE WORST @KEYSER @IRREL

ALL WE NEED IS NAUCI

[Eragon]

sup

Eragonna kick some scum butt?

yes my bready friend.

I've played this set-up before , albeit from the opposite side, and it was extremely mind-game fun

[Eragon]

tell me, has creature obv. towned yet?

[Eragon]

btw triple N0 inno on Keyser, TW, and Irrel

[Eragon]

im busy rn studying for 4 major tests in the next 2 days but i just skimmed tw(obviously the worst is first) and gut town

[Eragon]

Spoiler:

wait fuck i forgot me intro-memes



THAT HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THE CURRENT CASE



no one cares about you're premade, weeb, anime, always wins ass



*gulp*

[volxen]

CRAZY DEJA VU @THE WORST @KEYSER @IRREL

ALL WE NEED IS NAUCI

Now 5/9 out of the playerlist is from Watcher Wanted -- although you forgot about me, Eragon. I guess I will give you a pass this time, since our time together alive in Watcher Wanted was pretty short lived.

[the worst]

tell me, has creature obv. towned yet?

That's controversial!! Have a read and tell me what you think

Also for reals TRing the fuck outta me Relly and keys?

[Eragon]

CRAZY DEJA VU @THE WORST @KEYSER @IRREL

ALL WE NEED IS NAUCI

Now 5/9 out of the playerlist is from Watcher Wanted -- although you forgot about me, Eragon. I guess I will give you a pass this time, since our time together alive in Watcher Wanted was pretty short lived.

sorry ;_;

have a cat

tell me, has creature obv. towned yet?

That's controversial!! Have a read and tell me what you think

Also for reals TRing the fuck outta me Relly and keys?

nah.

the N0 was a joke, about my private dreams.

i do have a gut TR on you through skim, but its nothing strong and i know i shouldn't rush a read on any of you lmao, and i dont have time to dive rn

[the worst]

I wouldn't worry about it too much I'm really town this time
How are you w creature?

[Eragon]

I wouldn't worry about it too much I'm really town this time
How are you w creature?

AHA. contradiction spotted...

you were town last time as well!


I'll have to read, but i hear from a lot of people that creature is an easy obv. town so its scary that he hasnt yet idk i dont think i've ever played with them here

[the worst]

busted fuck
Keyser Irrelephant ABORT MISSION

[the worst]

just have a look at his ISO for me and tell me if his contributions are town or scum ftpov

don't look up my case yer it contains spoilers

[Eragon]

how aboout a deal.

i take time from studying to do part of creature's ISO, say 50-75 posts.

then i leave and do the rest tommorow

[Eragon]

Felt like you were chainlinking mine and Labrat’s lynches.

I’ve seen scum do that recently (Eragon).

I was experiencing those same unsettling feelings.

chainlinking town lynches?

when

0.0

[Eragon]

meh i decided to do the whole thing

im on post 100

[Eragon]

First 10 posts-
-I dont see anything AI, mostly memes/not really content posts

Cool I almost posted in a game that ended months ago

Next 10 posts-i see a few things here
-196 the stuff about replacing out seems like natural interaction? I don’t really know I just kinda like the tone from it
-200 this post gives me strong town pings, specifically saying “dont send me to heaven”

21-30
-202 *pats*
-204 you poor soul.
-218 I dont know where this read comes from? He hasn’t said anything about tw, and all of a sudden “oh hey your probably right on TW”
-219 makes my heart feel warm inside 0.0 but on a serious note It does seem weird, but why would scum say a single intro RvS post reads town? pocket?

31-40
-225 prove it. Insofar you can, this post is fine, but if you aren’t trying, this is probably LAMIST

41-50
-240 personally feel towny tone here, but I also think this is a stretch
-319 why are you bringing this up again?? And the “i wouldn’t notice it myself though” sounds like “oh hey I didn’t get a scum rc so I couldn’t see that”
-323 personally I abhor self-meta, but I know people do it on this site (?) so im in-between here. Reasoning is b/c if someone knows their meta enough to comment about it, can’t they manipulate it? like, creature says “i’d give town reads as scum”
> gives like, 1 townread.
“oh hey I cant be scum”
-329 do you have a response to their vote?

51-60
-330 then does it
-331 can you elaborate a bit more on “he did enough” and why you are hesistant?
-332 towny vibes
-338 I have no idea the context, but I feel towny ping he doesn’t want to do unnatural things.

61-70
-466 isn’t that what you did? (except for saying it outloud)

71-80
-471 town ping, scum would force reads out, town wants to make accurate reads
-479 was that an actual scum read?




81-90
502 do you feel you are doing that this game? And is it normal as all alignments?
504as above town ping, scum would try to force a read
511above

91-100
525 its all well and good to try to make reads the way you want, but its normally good to have some reads by that point of the game… I still like how you aren’t giving in to people forcing you to make reads, as I feel scum would, but I think its about time…
556 mostly calm reaction to the vote, but it also strikes me a bit odd
“ I dont care if you vote me just don’t Lynch me” feels like an indirect way of saying “why the fuck did you vote me”

101-110
558 this made me laugh
568 most people like it when you give reasons for town reads ;_;
please?
572 I dont know whats going on in this post

111-120
580 :3
582 *pat*
611 do it. I dare you.
612 I also want an explanation from lab

121-130
622 why des it matter if he’s an alt?
656 what do you mean? You think volxen is scum, or you think this puts us into judgement day? And if you think volxen is scum explain. And if you think everyone is town, explain.
657 I see that too, but why go pure shade instead of asking WHY rel is sleeping TW?
662 can you explain why you SR volxen?


131-141
666 speak of the devil, please don’t do this. Odd coincidence for the post numbers lmao.
671 so basically your read is he had a wolf pop-in. Got it. But what about the rest of his posts? scummy? Towny but not enough to counter-act, null?
681 IM HERE BISH AND YOU CANT STOP THIS
682 well, its also statisticly likely that at least 1 is scum, based on there being 4/9 players and 3/9 are scum…
684 when did you change the read?

142-155
-685 try to draw a conclusion yourself, as well as asking
-686 MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
-687 again, you literally need to have worse reads than RNG(i’ve seen it happen) to not have one of these be scum
-688 do you truly believe this?
-691 I think you should
-693 so you don’t acknowledge the fact that you could be scum and people think you might be scum??????? Everyone that scum reads you, no matter what, your skeptical of?
-699 ok.

conclusion:

So, i saw a lot of posts that gave me towny pings and i felt the tone was towny, but i also read a few that just made me go "WTF???" so i don't think i can consider this strong town, but i definitely have a townread here