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Post Post #5850 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:04 am

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Answering Mastina's posts will take more time than I have rn
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Post Post #5851 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:07 am

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That said, the main new point about Varsoon is bullshit because I've seen the way Varsoon busses before. Furthermore, the fact that he switched over to Mastina is pretty critical too. The way in which he approached NR and Mastina is decidedly different, and it is the genuine nature of the breakdown that basically clears Mastina, not his supposed scumread
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Post Post #5852 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:14 am

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What about my earlier posts? You haven't answered those either?
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Post Post #5853 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:15 am

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What shit do you want me to respond to now
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Post Post #5854 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:34 am

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These?
In post 5770, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 5763, jjh927 wrote:I need to either know that I am right so I can shit on people's reads or reevaluate
What a joke. You aren't willing to re-evaluate because you think you are 100 % right. :roll:
In post 5771, NicoRobin wrote:If mastina flips scum, I am gonna have so much fun at the expense of jjh 'can figure out people's roles and read others better than anyone else' but who, in actuality, can't be bothered to see things in any other way but his own.
In post 5778, NicoRobin wrote:Like, just because you caught me one time doesn't mean you are infallible all of the sudden. That title belongs to mastina, who can be a brilliant strategist as town, but can screw us over if scum. It's better to get rid of her than letting her win in case she is scum, and most of you seem to think that letting her win is just fine, which is wrong. As a certain book character would say 'Thinking otherwise would simply be.....irrational."
In post 5781, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 5772, jjh927 wrote:Well yeah I'm not gonna reevaluate shit unless I'm shown to be wrong
Then live up to your words. You aren't magically going to be shown wrong unless you lynch mastina, just as mastina won't magically lynch herself.

And for the record, she won't gladiate me either, because that would prove she is scum beyond a doubt.

So if you wanna be proven wrong, either lynch her or lynch me already. Making mastina gladiate me isn't going to do shit other than her refusing to do so.

Furthermore, there are tons of people who would be far more useful than me as conftown.

@Jingle Do you really want a blubbering idiot who can't tell her right hand from her left as a conftown, eh? Especially since Vecna and many others agree that I am irrational and not making any sense.....
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Post Post #5855 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:37 am

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And thanks for proving my point that you treat whatever doesn't suit your little itsy-bitsy agenda as 'shit'. How is your tinfoil treating you?
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Post Post #5856 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:55 am

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But it is shit- all of it.


I'm only gonna reevaluate if I'm proven wrong because I agree, I am very confident I am right here. Barring a valid reason to reevaluate, I will not.

Your second quote looks like more from scum!you

Mastina is town and I'm not going to lynch her. Your reasoning here seems to be "hurrdurr paranoia" and I am a man of logic

I don't expect to be shown to be wrong, but I accept that it is a possibility of what will occur if mastina gladiates you. Thank you for flagging this post again, however, as I seem to have missed that you think her gladiating you would confirm her as scum. How?
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Post Post #5857 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:31 am

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In post 5851, jjh927 wrote:That said, the main new point about Varsoon is bullshit because I've seen the way Varsoon busses before. Furthermore, the fact that he switched over to Mastina is pretty critical too. The way in which he approached NR and Mastina is decidedly different, and it is the genuine nature of the breakdown that basically clears Mastina, not his supposed scumread
Honestly I agree Varsoon’s treatment was similar but that just confs them as the same alignment imo
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Post Post #5858 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:48 am

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jjh if you ignore nicorobin long enough she will go away.
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Post Post #5859 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:01 am

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So firebringer, whose actually scum this game? FYPOV this game should be decently solvable at this game......the rest of us still have to struggle past your weird, incredibly anti town slot, but you dont have that problem.
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Post Post #5860 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:02 am

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at this point in the game*
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Post Post #5861 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:04 am

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aristophanes, creature and i don't know if there is a third.

i like them both so i am not voting either.

creature has been lying.
aristophanes is in his awkward scum ways.

if there is more scum than that idk someone pushing me for anti town while not doing anything real.
maybe lady angel since she seems oblvious in the scummy way.
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Post Post #5862 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:09 am

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this game is actually very hard to solve given the people occupying slots

like porkens has done absolutely garbage. how do you read him? he does nothing but shout nonsensical statements that aren't in relation to anything that is being said. its like he is simple chat bot that someone made in a few hours while high.

meme man posts make me cringe 90% of the time because they post in a way that when i read it i am like "is this a real person?" and then i don't want to analyze any of the content but the content looks very flip flopping and i can't tell if its natural or not because meme man isn't acting human.

like i don't think this is easy for me to solve as you think and i think u should have easier time understanding that my anti town behavior isn't like weird.
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Post Post #5863 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:12 am

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and i feel to close to this game in an emotional way that i can't be as objective as i want to be with the people shouting for my death to read their intentions with great deal of accuracy.

and usually if i can keep myself emotionaly distant i can read people who are attempting to read me or push me very very accurately.
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Post Post #5864 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:17 am

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In post 5856, jjh927 wrote:But it is shit- all of it.


I'm only gonna reevaluate if I'm proven wrong because I agree, I am very confident I am right here. Barring a valid reason to reevaluate, I will not.

Your second quote looks like more from scum!you

Mastina is town and I'm not going to lynch her. Your reasoning here seems to be "hurrdurr paranoia" and I am a man of logic

I don't expect to be shown to be wrong, but I accept that it is a possibility of what will occur if mastina gladiates you. Thank you for flagging this post again, however, as I seem to have missed that you think her gladiating you would confirm her as scum. How?
And I will ask again: how exactly will you be 'proven wrong'? Because your method - the gladiate - won't work the way you'd want it to.
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Post Post #5865 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:19 am

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In post 5856, jjh927 wrote:But it is shit- all of it.


I'm only gonna reevaluate if I'm proven wrong because I agree, I am very confident I am right here. Barring a valid reason to reevaluate, I will not.

Your second quote looks like more from scum!you

Mastina is town and I'm not going to lynch her. Your reasoning here seems to be "hurrdurr paranoia" and I am a man of logic

I don't expect to be shown to be wrong, but I accept that it is a possibility of what will occur if mastina gladiates you. Thank you for flagging this post again, however, as I seem to have missed that you think her gladiating you would confirm her as scum. How?
And thanks for proving you didn't read at all. I didn't say her gladiating me would confirm her as scum, I said that her REFUSING to do so - which will happen - would.
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Post Post #5866 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:20 am

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In post 5858, Firebringer wrote:jjh if you ignore nicorobin long enough she will go away.
Not happening, because he is my main scumread.
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Post Post #5867 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:21 am

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and at this moment i only care about solving this game in the sense of:
why are you people not on the side of lets cancel this game?

i think if anyone should want to cancel this game its any scum player who is sick of the game mechanics (which many of you say is me). and the environment it has caused and how anti fun it has all been (which should be any non masochist town player).

I am going to continue framing this game as a push to cancel it.
I am not here to solve the game for a sense of winning a game. I am here to avoid the uneeded frustration for all involved.
Which unfortunately is causing us all to have more uneeded frustration.

So where is everyone on the vote?

Why should we really continue the game?
So far no one has disagreed with me that the game is not fun.
Many people in this game have been anguishing and pushing themselves just to post and most aren't engaged in the game to begin with to justify them even posting to begin with.

VOTE TO CANCEL!
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Post Post #5868 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:23 am

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In post 5861, Firebringer wrote:aristophanes, creature and i don't know if there is a third.

i like them both so i am not voting either.

creature has been lying.
aristophanes is in his awkward scum ways.

if there is more scum than that idk someone pushing me for anti town while not doing anything real.
maybe lady angel since she seems oblvious in the scummy way.
I was gonna ask why you were fine voting with them but you’ve admitted to playing pro-scum so it’s not that weird
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Post Post #5869 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:21 am

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In post 5864, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 5856, jjh927 wrote:But it is shit- all of it.


I'm only gonna reevaluate if I'm proven wrong because I agree, I am very confident I am right here. Barring a valid reason to reevaluate, I will not.

Your second quote looks like more from scum!you

Mastina is town and I'm not going to lynch her. Your reasoning here seems to be "hurrdurr paranoia" and I am a man of logic

I don't expect to be shown to be wrong, but I accept that it is a possibility of what will occur if mastina gladiates you. Thank you for flagging this post again, however, as I seem to have missed that you think her gladiating you would confirm her as scum. How?
And I will ask again: how exactly will you be 'proven wrong'? Because your method - the gladiate - won't work the way you'd want it to.

Yeah it would

Either she fails and I am proven right or she succeeds and I am proven wrong. It's a binary.

In post 5865, NicoRobin wrote:
In post 5856, jjh927 wrote:But it is shit- all of it.


I'm only gonna reevaluate if I'm proven wrong because I agree, I am very confident I am right here. Barring a valid reason to reevaluate, I will not.

Your second quote looks like more from scum!you

Mastina is town and I'm not going to lynch her. Your reasoning here seems to be "hurrdurr paranoia" and I am a man of logic

I don't expect to be shown to be wrong, but I accept that it is a possibility of what will occur if mastina gladiates you. Thank you for flagging this post again, however, as I seem to have missed that you think her gladiating you would confirm her as scum. How?
And thanks for proving you didn't read at all. I didn't say her gladiating me would confirm her as scum, I said that her REFUSING to do so - which will happen - would.

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Post Post #5870 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:23 am

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Do note that you have argued that she would be scum for gladiating you and also that she would be scum for refusing to gladiate you
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Post Post #5871 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:18 pm

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RC, its time to prod some useless lurksacks.
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Post Post #5872 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:00 pm

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In post 5867, Firebringer wrote:and at this moment i only care about solving this game in the sense of:
why are you people not on the side of lets cancel this game?

i think if anyone should want to cancel this game its any scum player who is sick of the game mechanics (which many of you say is me). and the environment it has caused and how anti fun it has all been (which should be any non masochist town player).

I am going to continue framing this game as a push to cancel it.
I am not here to solve the game for a sense of winning a game. I am here to avoid the uneeded frustration for all involved.
Which unfortunately is causing us all to have more uneeded frustration.

So where is everyone on the vote?

Why should we really continue the game?
So far no one has disagreed with me that the game is not fun.
Many people in this game have been anguishing and pushing themselves just to post and most aren't engaged in the game to begin with to justify them even posting to begin with.

VOTE TO CANCEL!
The reason people are frustrated are just 3 things:
-People being anti-town and whiny as fuck
-People being inactive and replacing out all the time
-Mastina being way slower than people would like, and taking the dumb stance of "you all need to agree on a lynch, but I DGAFF that you all want me to be faster, I only care about democratic nonsense when it fits my views".

Now, you yourself were responsible for two out of three. So instead of spamming for a cancel, try to make it better instead?
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Post Post #5873 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:12 pm

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In post 5870, jjh927 wrote:Do note that you have argued that she would be scum for gladiating you and also that she would be scum for refusing to gladiate you
No, I only argued that she would be scum for refusing to gladiate me.

Come think of it, you only included two options: she either succeeds or fails.

But there is a third possibility: she doesn't gladiate me at all. What happens with your analysis if this option were to occur?
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Post Post #5874 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:10 pm

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Because for someone who claims to know everything, you are way too quick to discard some possibilities if they don't fit in with your views.

I propose this: ignore my existence for a day or two (irl) and focus on finding my partners, which should be easy, given how clever you deem yourself to be and how adamant you are that I am scum. If you can find them and if I am unable to counter your arguments on a decent level, then you can lynch me. I'll even sheep you. How about that, jjh? If you are that sure of yourself, then you will seize this opportunity for a free lynch on me.
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