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[DVa]

There have been setups with multiple protective-ish roles (one setup had all of town doctor, one-shot babysitter, and novice roleblocker) and GS with no false positives (but gated to even night). It's the total lack of gates that's surprising here.

[Almost50]

There have been setups with multiple protective-ish roles (one setup had all of town doctor, one-shot babysitter, and novice roleblocker) and GS with no false positives (but gated to even night). It's the total lack of gates that's surprising here.

I didn't say you can't have multiple protectives. I can see a Doctor/JK with a BG/Babysitter no problem. Babysiter could either save a kill or result in 2 kills (themselves and the one they target). BG will still be killed instead of their protection target. Roleblocker must block the source of the kill to prevent it, and they usually are a negative utility for Town bc they could block an investigative, or even the DOCTOR in the example you gave). That's all fine.

It's the JK + Doctor that is almost broken, and especially so in smaller games.

[Gamma Emerald]

dva > pp > kokichi > gamma > nako > me
: >

@A50 does this look like the massclaim order of someone who suspects me?
It’s fine if you want suggest me being vigged. What isn’t fine is you covering your hide with lies.

[Almost50]

I ain't lying. You're the one who's not reading.

just sephiroth who needs to check in?

Scum list:

Top picks:
Mew or Sephiroth
Dark Horse:

Gamma

of course if mew is town here then A50 is shooting up to a top pick. Will probably iso skim later to see if i missed anything.

Anyways happy thanksgiving people.

The claiming order has nothing to do with reads, but more to do with perceived roles. Like, if you did pick on my crumb and I hadn't claimed you'd probably want me to claim last even if you suspected me still, simply because you caught the crumb and think I cannot get out of it anyway.

[OkaPoka]

you can both be right here so there is no need to disunify over what i believe/don't believe. rn my reads are going to be shifting a bunch and exists in a state of high uncertainty until PP does stuff and as such, my reads on a lot of people exists in relation to PP because my old theory is coming back to me thinking it might be right

[Mewtaph]

A50 is scum...

[Mewtaph]

Pretty sure this is not the first post town makes after scum CCs their role and actions.

You're "pretty sure" but you're going to regret not reaching out to me this game. The only reach out you made was saying that I could be town out of one scum in {Mewtaph, Sephiroth}. If there's at least one scum in that group, then sure, you probably placed yourself in the best place to win the game as town. Both town? Gg, scum can pretty much watch the fireworks and ride their way to a victory.

[Mewtaph]

And I'm sorry but Gamma has to be considered a top town read even if they are actually scum just because they are the only person that makes any sense here, lmao.

[Mewtaph]

Some of you want to play the "your actions don't make sense as town" but really I just think you don't like the way I played the JK role, like lol I actually blocked a kill on N1 in some form or another so kkk

[Mewtaph]

A50 wants his read so badly to be right it has to be read as scum.

[Mewtaph]

Of course I want to avoid a public CC on DDL if I can try to push a lynch on him without revealing first? If the lynch strayed off I would have theoretically claimed and get him lynched, or JK someone that would make no sense for him to target so he would have to justify himself super poorly in thread the next day.

Walking into a 9p day it makes no sense for me/Seph to make CCable claims as the supposed scum team that A50 is trying to push through here. Literally, even if I was the only scum in that group and someone else was trying to deepscum, someone CCs me and it is the equivalent of a town PR trading for a scum lynch on D1 of a 9p game. Lmao

[Mewtaph]

The JK actions only make sense from me, tbh. So trying to frame it as anyone else is stupid, and lynching me just because you think I'm scum roleblocker/Jk over town JK is dumb as fuck when I flip.

[Mewtaph]

If I was actually scum roleblocker I can reliably sit on A50's face (roleblock him) for the rest of the game and play quieter as soon as I see an open GS claim. So if we're going to play the "if Mewtaph was scum what would he do?" then let's put a little more common sense into it rather than fantasy and magic.

[Nako]

What if Kokichi is the Mafia Doc?
We will see what happens after Mew flip.

[OkaPoka]

mew why didn't you directly attack ddl more?

[Mewtaph]

Lol whatever, just don't ever lynch Sephiroth this game, that was my goal D2 and somehow a staggering amount of people walk out thinking there has to be at least one scum in that group.

[Mewtaph]

I did? With an L-1 vote? And questioning the logic behind his A50 JK? Like just because DVa doesn't like that I call out her play as being optimal from DDL-partner perspective, doesn't mean shit.

[OkaPoka]

Why did you make a series of posts doing a dance before making your L1 vote? Why weren't you more direct in saying, "I don't believe DDL is JK, and I scumread him hard for it"

[Mewtaph]

Making an immediate jump from "I think DDL is an ML at the hands of apathy" into "DDL is a scumfuck, there's no way there are two JKs in a setup and that JK action is mine" should and cannot be taking place in the span of a single post because that's just easy for scum to read into after the fact. Progression is key. Either way he kinda got caught so lol.

[OkaPoka]

So I assume that you prize you living over other townies living as much more important, given that you are willing to sacrifice some integrity in true thoughts for the sake of displaying a progression, even if it is based on lies?

[Mewtaph]

So I assume that you prize you living over other townies living as much more important, given that you are willing to sacrifice some integrity in true thoughts for the sake of displaying a progression, even if it is based on lies?

It wasn't based on lies, because they couldn't make the JK claim, again without my non-ascetic claim. And questioning the nature of him JKing A50 himself is fine because it

didn't

make much sense and that information was public.

[OkaPoka]

I would assume your first instinct when DDL claimed JK is "Bullshit."

[Mewtaph]

If I'm an ungated PR in the setup? For sure I'm not going to waste my claim on the tail end of the day just to be a free NK the next night.

My actions were transparent and obvious for me to make as a town JK whether you like it or not.

[OkaPoka]

Can you just talk me through your thought process?

What was your first reaction when DDL claimed JK to you? What was running through your head?

[DVa]

Can you expand on why A50 is scum again Mew? You think there's an unclaimed investigative, or this setup has no investigative?