Excalibur [Endgame]

[MariaR]

AWWWW I GET THE PLAN. I'm flattered LLD is scared of town me so she wants people to think we're buddies when she dies to get rid of town me. Aw lld I'm honored ty for choosing me this is really cute

If that's the case, would you be okay with taking the sword tonight?

I normally hate being an IC but sure I wouldn't mind it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

AWWWW I GET THE PLAN. I'm flattered LLD is scared of town me so she wants people to think we're buddies when she dies to get rid of town me. Aw lld I'm honored ty for choosing me this is really cute

If that's the case, would you be okay with taking the sword tonight?

I normally hate being an IC but sure I wouldn't mind it.

If you end up lynching me, and Maria comes back without the sword, saying "oh someone else got it oops RNG", kill her.

Or just kill her now and perform the same effect on me, I'll hari-kiri myself if I don't become confirmed town tbh.

[MariaR]

AWWWW I GET THE PLAN. I'm flattered LLD is scared of town me so she wants people to think we're buddies when she dies to get rid of town me. Aw lld I'm honored ty for choosing me this is really cute

If that's the case, would you be okay with taking the sword tonight?

I normally hate being an IC but sure I wouldn't mind it.

If you end up lynching me, and Maria comes back without the sword, saying "oh someone else got it oops RNG", kill her.

Or just kill her now and perform the same effect on me, I'll hari-kiri myself if I don't become confirmed town tbh.

How would this be in any way my fault? It's not my fault if someone else takes the sword. I don't really want it but Ik even if I do get you lynched I need to take it to live

[Gamma Emerald]

It's just a bad post in general, not just because it's wrong, but because I can't figure out HOW he could arrive at that conclusion looking at only posts in this thread

Man, it's almost as if I have experience with LLD outside this game.

Actually now that I critically analyzed Dunn’s point on SS that makes some sense

[Something_Smart]

2. One is scum, good situation, also unlikely just off of odds and what makes sense for play, but you're the one with experience; does LLD-scum gladiate town here despite knowing Excalibur guilties her tonight?

If LLD's scum here, she knows she's a dead woman. I can see her wanting to go out having as much control over the gamestate as she can, I can see her wanting to focus her efforts into eliminating Maria whom she probably sees as more threatening than Jay, and I can see her expecting to do better against someone whom she can potentially emotionally unbalance. So yeah, it's definitely plausible.

3. Both are town, awful situation, not a win-win at all, as we mislynch one and even if we browbeat the other to get the sword, scum can either kill there if they want or avoid it if they're not worried about Maria.

Yes, if LLD is town it isn't a win-win because Maria could be town, but I still think she's a pretty good cop candidate as she's a strong town player and she'll never be trusted if LLD flips green.

However, I would be open to not going through with this if LLD is town, though we'd pretty much have to lynch Maria out of respect for the dead.

[Elsa Jay]

If LLD's scum here, she knows she's a dead woman. I can see her wanting to go out having as much control over the gamestate as she can, I can see her wanting to focus her efforts into eliminating Maria whom she probably sees as more threatening than Jay, and I can see her expecting to do better against someone whom she can potentially emotionally unbalance. So yeah, it's definitely plausible.

So your saying she couldnt emotionally unbalance me? I know that wasnt the focus, but it's just something I want to know.

Honestly if she had let me battle her, she saw how many people (yourself included) would have voted me, she definitely had a decent chance of winning. So your saying that she, as scum, would go for the even harder push on Maria? That Seems less optimal as scum.

[Varsoon]

VOTE: LLD

Seems like this solves itself, then.

[MariaR]

there are better people to go for the sword then me but I suppose I have too regardless weeee

[MariaR]

Regardless of what your read on one of our slots is you should try to get a read on both because if you think we're both scum well sentence us to death anywayt.
If you think we're both town we should have people go for the sword. If you think it's 1 scum 1 town we should have a pool of people go the sword.
If you're unsure well that's not a thing rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Wait are we doing the “one person takes the sword” thing again?

[DVa]

That would still be my preference but I gave up trying to convince Varsoon and UT ages ago

[Auro]

Honestly if she had let me battle her, she saw how many people (yourself included) would have voted me, she definitely had a decent chance of winning. So your saying that she, as scum, would go for the even harder push on Maria? That Seems less optimal as scum.

Jay, who are you voting for, then?
My policy vote thing was to see your reaction -- you were advancing the game, I think your posts today made you pretty much town to me.

I'm leaning towards voting Maria.

[Elsa Jay]

At the moment I'm seeing if the "Lady Redemption Arc" I set up pays off and we get a fun yet information-rich show. I'm only garunteeing I don't want day 1 to be a No Lynch.

This "Is Maria really one of us?" Arc is starting off well. Let's see if it sticks the landing.

[SirCakez]

I can't believe people are buying LLD's desperation gladiate and are actually considering voting Maria.
@auro
@fire
Why?
Also @elsa wtf are you in about?

[SirCakez]

Also @gamma
Do you actually SR Maria or is it just a fuck you to Dunn?

[Auro]

I can't believe people are buying LLD's desperation gladiate and are actually considering voting Maria.
@auro
@fire
Why?
Also @elsa wtf are you in about?

LLD dueling Maria does seem pretty sub-optimal to me, l feel like she would've won much easier with other targets. She could've easily said "UT is a scumread and also is the contesus" and gladiated him. What am I missing here?

Why can this not come from town!LLD who's towning Jay, and scumreading Maria?

(Also, I'm towning you and Gamma Emerald, and I also think Ariane's slot could likely be scum)

[Auro]

Consensus* sorry.
However, she did say dueling me is good as opposed to a big personality because of my polarizing reads primarily, so I dunno why she didn't gladiate me; unless that logic applies only when my other dueler isn't a big personality, or she's townreading me.

[SirCakez]

I disagree, I think LLD was guaranteed to lose pretty much any matchup. This Maria move reads like a desperate gambit to induce this kind of WIFOM (I;e why would she do that as scum???) And her read progression on Elsa makes little sense.

I think LLD's ate and random massive burst of activity when Elsa was going to glad her seem pretty transparently scum

[Nancy Drew 39]

Gladiate MariaR

Why have people been making HURT tags, if they’re just going to be ignored? Didn’t you say we should kill EJ for doing this?

Elsa was giving me an ultimatuum, and I was fine to wait when I thought she was scum, but once I realized she was likely town I needed to make a move to avoid a TvT duel.

Yes, that’s true, you would 100% have lost that duel.

[Nancy Drew 39]

HURT: UT
Wanted to talk about this during catch-up but I’m not focused enough to get through rn so I’ll just do this now
The post by Dunnstral I quoted saying I had a good idea of someone who could be scum, I was referring to UT. In BoR, FakeGod made a comment post-game about how he meant for town to use the desperadoes optimally when doing balance. So for UT to argue against that concept is a massive scum sign.

He wasn't in that game so this reasoning only holds for saying it's a bad idea

Well against Lady it'll be enough.

We have 5 days. If Elsa decides to duel anyone prematurely, denying us time, please murder them.

I don't like this coming from you because it looks like you said it in response to 990

There's something that's been off about you all game, and I didn't know how to put it into words, I think it's the implication you are giving out that you shouldn't be voted today for being a strong voice, but looking at your post history there are times where you aren't in thread for hundreds of posts at a time and then you don't really make a HUGE impact when you're here either, I don't know if this comes from you misconstruing the way you are playing this game or if something else is going on here or what



I am this far back right now and boy does Auro ever shut up? Feels like he's on every page, probably because he almost literally is

A few people are scumreading me, and DVa is hard scumreading me for my having engaged her and pushed her on that meta FoS.

This feels kind of misreppy for what DVa is saying

We have 5 days. If Elsa decides to duel anyone prematurely, denying us time, please murder them.

^ scum post

Yeah it is

Yes, he was in that game, he even said he was. He was replaced by Moment.

[FakeGod]

Hey all, I'm really really sorry but I'm requesting replacement, had no idea how quickly large games went and there's a significant chance I won't be able to keep up/catch back up. Wanted to bail now rather than when it was even longer for the sake of replacements. Sorry again and good luck!

Looking for replacement.

[Nancy Drew 39]

AWWWW I GET THE PLAN. I'm flattered LLD is scared of town me so she wants people to think we're buddies when she dies to get rid of town me. Aw lld I'm honored ty for choosing me this is really cute

If that's the case, would you be okay with taking the sword tonight?

I normally hate being an IC but sure I wouldn't mind it.

If you end up lynching me, and Maria comes back without the sword, saying "oh someone else got it oops RNG", kill her.

Or just kill her now and perform the same effect on me, I'll hari-kiri myself if I don't become confirmed town tbh.

There is no guarantee Maria can get the sword, if multiple people claim it, so this is a false test. It is only relevant, if NO ONE claims it, then we’d have a guilty.

[Nancy Drew 39]

If LLD's scum here, she knows she's a dead woman. I can see her wanting to go out having as much control over the gamestate as she can, I can see her wanting to focus her efforts into eliminating Maria whom she probably sees as more threatening than Jay, and I can see her expecting to do better against someone whom she can potentially emotionally unbalance. So yeah, it's definitely plausible.

So your saying she couldnt emotionally unbalance me? I know that wasnt the focus, but it's just something I want to know.

Honestly if she had let me battle her, she saw how many people (yourself included) would have voted me, she definitely had a decent chance of winning. So your saying that she, as scum, would go for the even harder push on Maria? That Seems less optimal as scum.

You were obvtown due to your Auro defense and she knew it. She wasn’t winning against you. Her choosing to gladiate Maria, doesn’t necessarily tell us anything about her alignment but she has a better chance of winning against Maria, than you.

[Varsoon]

I disagree, I think LLD was guaranteed to lose pretty much any matchup. This Maria move reads like a desperate gambit to induce this kind of WIFOM (I;e why would she do that as scum???) And her read progression on Elsa makes little sense.

I think LLD's ate and random massive burst of activity when Elsa was going to glad her seem pretty transparently scum

Basically this, coupled with misgivings about how the slot's handled reads and the gladiate in general.
I also felt like LLD was trying to be all "I WILL TAKE EXCALIBUR"-vocal to try to town-signal hard but when UT and I did the same, it lessened LLD's chances of being townread for it, and now they're going with a Gladiate under the notion, perhaps, that UT and I will go for the sword even now instead of leaving it up for LLD to pull it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also @gamma
Do you actually SR Maria or is it just a fuck you to Dunn?

It’s closer to a fuck you vote but I do feel like his lead-in to the LLD vote was shady