Mini Normal 2044: Game over!

[Irrelephant11]

only not voting because I think it's reasonable to say "he's definitely the lynch" and play out the game day

[Garmr]

Can you just lynch me now please.

[Persivul]

I'm not scum if I claimed scum I would be banned and that would be silly but just lynch me anyway.

No, caught scum can self-vote in an attempt to shut down town discussion. There's no action taken on that.

[Irrelephant11]

loud doctor
loud cop
5 vts, maybe a weak tpr
mafia, maybe a 1-shot pr
mafia motion detector

sounds about right
loud + loud + motion detector gives scum a strong chance of catching or semi-catching a tpr every night, so the cop + doctor isn't that unreasonable
I think I believe the cop claim now
reaper is town, persivul town (re-evaluate in lylo if he's alive), clemency probtown still

pedit: I think it would be more helpful to scum than town to lynch you faster, so no
you aren't obligated to keep posting, though

[Clemency]

we can use our time wisely
garmr's vote is already on himself so we don't need to worry about quickhammer

[Persivul]

UNVOTE:

No rush.

[ReaperOfSouls]

Yeah, if elephant is scum, from that reads list we'd expect partner to be in:
{bji, creature}
{reaper, persivul}

But the only one left there is bji.

So, scum looks like irrel/bji or garmr/sash.

Do you see any other possibilities?

Bji, sash. Sash,Clem if Is possible but highly unlikely, That's why don't mind lynching sash right now If i'm wrong I get to clear my name pretty much.

irrel/bji
garmr/sash
bji/sash
clem/sash

Forget about the aspect of clearing your own name. Can you rank these from most likely to least likely?

So does this still hold?

[Irrelephant11]

I'm not sure; I definitely need to re-evaluate. Garmr being scum makes sashaddin seem more likely town

[Persivul]

but I got skitter's protection?
I'm just gonna

@mod

about this situation just in case there was a mistake in night action resolving (if we don't hear anything I'll assume it's a no)

Town reaction is more likely

but I got skitter's protection, so you're scum.

[Irrelephant11]

who does that leave? Bji? Clem? reaper and persivul vouch for each other

pedit: but if I'm his partner, as soon as mod doesn't intervene I look silly/wrong/partner-y, so what's the different?

[Persivul]

So does this still hold?

Now I'd say it's:

garmr/irrel
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garmr/sash

[Irrelephant11]

difference?*

I arrived where you're saying I should have arrived like two posts later. I don't see why it's unreasonable that my immediate reaction comes from town!me who townreads garmr strongly up to that point

[Irrelephant11]

I also think I'd be extremely bold scum to defend Garmr with such strength (literally making the same "he's town" post as him) as his partner. I agree his play kinda looks like how he might treat me if we were partners, but I don't think the reverse is true

[Persivul]

difference?*

I arrived where you're saying I should have arrived like two posts later. I don't see why it's unreasonable that my immediate reaction comes from town!me who townreads garmr strongly up to that point

IOW...you screwed up, then tried to salvage it.

Before he slipped you looked either like scum partners, or you were scum buddying up to town. As soon as he slipped I typed up a gotcha! post, but then scrapped it to see if you'd try to defend him.

[Garmr]

[Irrelephant11]

skitter protecting me is +town for me, too (she's played with me a number of times), but me saying this probably will make you feel like that's not true, esp. given a tunnel on me
whatever I'll stop towncasing myself and sort sash/bji/clem for you
my best guess rn is bji/garmr, using their distaste for each other's personalities to create distance

pedit: why couldn't it be him pocketing me? We just played a game together that ended at the beginning of the month, I think it's very possible he played up aspects of what got me to townread him there so that I'd townread him again here

[Garmr]

[Irrelephant11]

I guess I shouldn't clear Sash just because Garmr was okay with his lynch, but imo it did look like Garmr really was aiming to lynch him, not just giving lip service to the idea
his claim is also indicative of buddying me (if it had worked), btw, and I don't think he'd forget skitter targeted me if that result was discussed in the scumchat

[Persivul]

So, talking out the play out:

Game was highly likely 7:2 to start.

Day 2 starts 5:2.

Assuming garmr is scum, his lynch makes it 5:1.

Further assuming he really is a scum MD, the other scum is likely goon.

So, they need to lynch me tonight. Reaper is then 100% conftown.

Day 3 starts 4:1.

Lynch irrel. If he's scum, game over. If he's town, that makes it 3:1.

N3 they presumably kill Reaper since he's conftown.

D4 is lylo with clem, sash, and bji.

So, question is: which of {clem, sash, bji} is most likely scum with garmr?

[Persivul]

skitter protecting me is +town for me, too (she's played with me a number of times), but me saying this probably will make you feel like that's not true, esp. given a tunnel on me

Yeah, plus the fact that I was reading other games of yours earlier today, and in one you said that you tend to be town read whether you're town or scum.

[Clemency]

oh no i'm awful at lylo

[Garmr]

So, talking out the play out:

Game was highly likely 7:2 to start.

Day 2 starts 5:2.

Assuming garmr is scum, his lynch makes it 5:1.

Further assuming he really is a scum MD, the other scum is likely goon.

So, they need to lynch me tonight. Reaper is then 100% conftown.

Day 3 starts 4:1.

Lynch irrel. If he's scum, game over. If he's town, that makes it 3:1.

N3 they presumably kill Reaper since he's conftown.

D4 is lylo with clem, sash, and bji.

So, question is: which of {clem, sash, bji} is most likely scum with garmr?

According to that we should lynch reaper.

[Persivul]

I don't think he'd forget skitter targeted me if that result was discussed in the scumchat

When did you get that info from mod?

[Persivul]

nm, scum have daytalk.

[Persivul]

I don't think he'd forget skitter targeted me if that result was discussed in the scumchat

Fair point.