A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Firebringer]

no. i still don't trust u.

[Firebringer]

but ur not like my primary focus here because i am not really into diving into a full focus on you.
and im not worried about you because ur not a major influence in the game rn.

so if ur scum i am leaving u around for a long time. also ur claim should get u killed so i don't need to really worry about you

[Shoshin]

What can I do for you to trust me?

I have a reason for you to neighbor me. There's a conversation (including information) that I'd like to have with you and only you.

[Shoshin]

I should be obvious town, so I don't get why anyone would suspect me.

I have a role that is likely town. RC's words when I entered the game all but confirm me as town. My behavior is far beyond anything I'm capable of as scum. And yes, I wasn't active for a bit because it was Thanksgiving (notice the drop in activity in all my games, including the other one you were in). But I am here, I'm reading through the game, and I'm putting way more effort than I'd ever put into this as scum.

Please trust me.

[Shoshin]

Well, I understand your paranoia. But actually, I'm just trying to get a better grasp on the game, and I do a lot better when I can talk through my thinking with someone I trust.

We already had a confirmed town in Steiner. Why didn't you try to talk to him earlier?

I don't understand how this question helps you sort my alignment. What would my answer tell you about my alignment?

[Lady Angel]

You got parity copped and your response to that has been to post less and doing exactly the same things as you were doing that got you parity copped and then blame the people voting you for voting you because you've been scummy with a bad response to being copped.

I don't see how following a parity cop equates to "giving up on reason" when said cop gave a clear answer and your response to it hasn't been towny.

Furthermore, you refused to follow Creature when he claimed his guilty, and yet you are willing to follow the parity cop's results now. Why is that?

Oh, yeah, because they align with your pre-determined viewpoints.

1. We had a fake guilty yesterday, so I was pre-emptively suspicious.
2. Creature's claim was quite literally that Mastina's role had four As in her name or something like that. That is in no way, shape, or form a guilty and the only reason you can call it such is because of hindsight bias. Hell, my own role name has four As in it - am I scum, too?
3. Don't act like I'm conveniently deciding to follow the cop to get rid of you now when I've been on you since day 2.
4. I asked Meme Men questions about his role and would've been more than willing to switch or jump ship had I decided he was faking it.
5. Given the information we have, Meme Men is more likely to be town than Creature.

And are you really suggesting a day redirector to go along with Meme Men's Day Parity cop, that he didn't even foreshadow before today? And wouldn't a redirector explicitly change the names of the people he originally targeted to the people he got redirected too?

Creature's guilty wasn't a guilty for the reasons I pointed out

And MM's guilty isn't a guilty because redirector.

Nah, extremely unlikely

So why is Creature's guilty fake because of redirector and MM's ability isn't, eh?

Creature's guilty was fake because it quite literally told us nothing alignment indicative.

[Shoshin]

I'd lynch Meme before I lynched NSG.

Can you explain this strong read on NSG some more?

Having recently played with both town NSG and scum NSG, I feel fairly confident that this is her town game. If you're curious, take a look at her play in Pokemon vs her play in TAZ. This feels closer to Pokemon. Like, there's a level of engagement with this game that's just completely absent from her scum game. Feels like she has actually thought about her reads. There's a few specific posts that I could bring up as well if need be.

That said, I'm not 100% on her. In the back of my mind, there's a inkling suspicion that she could be partnered with Lady Angel & Invis. But in either case, I'd lynch those two before I ever lynch her.

[Shoshin]

I think Shoshin is *kinda* scummy. Like, idk the impression I get is that she thinks she's super good player so I never really understood why she'd lurk and not do things. The whole "Nero is voting me b/c he's scum that wants to lynch me." was so fucking stupid and seemed a little scummy to me and I didn't like how Jingle was saying she was more likely to be 3p than mafia and that appeal where she used the mods words to try to argue that she was mod confirmed town BUT BUT given her role I think she's very unlikely to be in the original 5 scum. Let's hunt the remaining confirmed 3 scum and if the game isn't over we can come back.

I'm not lurking.

[Shoshin]

i am neighboring jingle for the rest of the game.

I am not at all confident about that. Can you explain this read?

[Shoshin]

i was thinking more disloyal realclaim

This seems to be inside knowledge on the part of Invis.

[Shoshin]

I strongly hope that Invis gets modkilled. Expecting that slot to flip scum.

[Shoshin]

At the moment, I'm calling the mafia as Nico, Invis, and Nero, with a chance that it's one or two of Jingle or Gamma.

[Shoshin]

If it's 6 mafia, then it's Nico, Invis, Nero, and one of Jingle, Gamma, or Lady Angel.

[Jingle]

There's a few specific posts that I could bring up as well if need be.

Would be interested, but it's probably not high priority, tbh.

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Invisibility

Firebringer, Invisibility, NR, Porkens is my scumpool with a side chance of meme men in there.

this is a very scummy post by lady angel i want u all to remember.

THANK YOU FIREBRIGER

[WhemeStar]

i am neighboring jingle for the rest of the game.
i am confident he is town.

if he dies i will neighbor probably vecna

NO THANK YOU FIREBRINGER

[THE MEME MEN]

lol

i want to do work, please stop giving poor nancy a heart attack that i have to deal with

thx

~dis

thinking about this part a bit -- if nancy was scum, would dis have the forethought to come in and say *he had to deal with her heart attack* from the fake daykill, or would that imply she was not freaking out in a scum pt?

wondering if this was a possible townslip from dis

Still having a few second guesses about nico v nsg so wondering if nancy hydra is easier to sort as town in retrospect

some people here have exper. with nancy right?

-rh

[Nero Cain]

i am neighboring jingle for the rest of the game.
i am confident he is town.

if he dies i will neighbor probably vecna

your top 2 town reads are the guy that passionately defended both scum and the other guy that wanted to use Masyina's role for 5 days and then bus her?

I don't understand how this question helps you sort my alignment. What would my answer tell you about my alignment?

probably nothing. I mean, you want to talk to fire b/c he's conftown. We had a conftowm before Fire that you never tried to work with. So I kinda agree with Fire in that in looks like you are buddying him but I'm not going to lynch you until we lynch the other 3 scum and the game is still going on.

Why do you think I'm scum?

[Jingle]

your top 2 town reads are the guy that passionately defended both scum and the other guy that wanted to use Masyina's role for 5 days and then bus her?

Who defended Varsoon?

[Firebringer]

your top 2 town reads are the guy that passionately defended both scum and the other guy that wanted to use Masyina's role for 5 days and then bus her?

yes i feel very strongly they are both town.

[Firebringer]

like i would be willing to take a hiatus from mafia if jingle flips scum.
or even pay everyone in this game $10 through paypal if i was wrong.

[THE MEME MEN]

That's negative incentive, Fire. You are the life of the party! Who would want you to take a hiatus?!

-rh

[Nero Cain]

Varsoon was Titus, yes? b/c Vecna was defending Titus.

[Shoshin]

or even pay everyone in this game $10 through paypal if i was wrong.

I'm holding you to this.

[Shoshin]

Fire, what's your read on Nero?