Excalibur [Endgame]

[Dunnstral]

People keep saying ss could have been killed to 'frame varsoon', but Varsoon isn't who he wanted dead

[Dunnstral]

pedit: Okay? And?

And that's why you're scummy

pedit2: If town doesn't know who's going for the sword neither do scum smart one.

Scum have a definite advantage in guessing at who will go for the sword - after all, scum can be vocal about going for the sword but they can't go for it. Once again try again

Pedit3: I sure do

Well I disagree with that, I don't think SS went for the sword and I don't think it looked like he was going to

1) Why does saying I'm going for the sword and then switching to not=scummy when scum me can just claim to go for it regardless.
2) You're wrong. Scum have more numbers of people but that doesn't mean it still isn't a guessing game for them. So why don't you try again.

3) how convenient of an answer ^_^

1) I explained that.
2) I'm not wrong, if players a b c d announce they'll go for the sword, but player b is scum, scum have a better chance of knowing where the sword will go than town do.
3) I know you would never make this response as town, I gaurantee it

[Dunnstral]

I didn't order S_S to go for the sword.

The people going for the sword should be SS UT Dva Kokichi

[MariaR]

Anything to discredit me more right? Well you've made your stance clear. arguing with you more won't do anything. Dual me or don't I really can care less. Just remember if you're town you lose any credit to reading me after this. gl~
Pedit: That's not an order that's my suggestion of who should go for the sword? I didn't say S_S GO FOR THE SWORD RIGHT NOW I COMMAND YOU. Now I know you're just bsing. ta ta

[Dunnstral]

Who's scum?

[MariaR]

1 of Auro/Dva
Prob UT
and some lurker slots atm.

[DVa]

Prob UT

can you expand on this some more?

[SirCakez]

I don't think scum Varsoon kills S_S out of defensiveness here. Doesn't seem like his type of move.

Maria what's your read on Dunn?

Also Elsa definitely looks worse with the LLD flip. The gladiate timing is more suspicious, makes a lot of sense as scum (cuts day short and secures an easy mislynch when it could have gone elsewhere, plus nobody really objects to that gladiation).
As well I think there is probably scum in the mob of low content slots (Ariane slot, FA slot, Kokichi, Veridian).

So who's scum then, Nancy?

My guess would be someone who was pushing Varsoon, unless there’s some other reason scum kills SS that I don’t understand.

can we get some names? this is a vague af response

[Nancy Drew 39]

I didn't order S_S to go for the sword. The fact that he did or didn't isn't the issue

it's that he was killed for being on my list.

While that’s definitely possible and maybe even likely, it is far from certain if that was the reason. We don’t know if scum expected SS to actually go for it or not.

[Nancy Drew 39]

1 of Auro/Dva
Prob UT
and some lurker slots atm.

Why one of Auro/Diva?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don't think scum Varsoon kills S_S out of defensiveness here. Doesn't seem like his type of move.

Maria what's your read on Dunn?

Also Elsa definitely looks worse with the LLD flip. The gladiate timing is more suspicious, makes a lot of sense as scum (cuts day short and secures an easy mislynch when it could have gone elsewhere, plus nobody really objects to that gladiation).
As well I think there is probably scum in the mob of low content slots (Ariane slot, FA slot, Kokichi, Veridian).

So who's scum then, Nancy?

My guess would be someone who was pushing Varsoon, unless there’s some other reason scum kills SS that I don’t understand.

can we get some names? this is a vague af response

Yes Cakes, it is “vague af”. If I actually had an answer, I’d obviously tell you.

Any rate, my strong townread on Elsa has lessened, because I’m not sure I buy that Auro was in serious jeopardy of being gladiated.

I was initially suspicious of Ariane and if PP doesn’t pick it up today, that will increase my suspicion on that slot. I also am curious what FA replacement will do.

[Elsa Jay]

I never said I knew he was gonna get gladiated, just that I was gonna garuntee he wouldn't be. Challenging Lady, who, as some pointed out, also had a decent amount of hurt tags, just seemed right.

This game has the unique duel mechanic that isn't the majority Lynch, Nancy. I'm happy to have used that for us to show what it does.

[Varsoon]

Gladiates still have to result in a majority Lynch, though. Why are you talking about it like it isn't?
We can also always no lynch, even though that's not preferable.
So long as we're using Hurt tags and the most Hurt player is gladiating/gladiated, it's essentially a majority lynchee in the gladiate pool.

I'm having a lot of trouble keeping up with this game otherwise.
Is there anything in particular I should look at?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Gladiates still have to result in a majority Lynch, though. Why are you talking about it like it isn't?
We can also always no lynch, even though that's not preferable.
So long as we're using Hurt tags and the most Hurt player is gladiating/gladiated, it's essentially a majority lynchee in the gladiate pool.

I'm having a lot of trouble keeping up with this game otherwise.
Is there anything in particular I should look at?

+1

Yeah, duels that are not based on majority hurt tags, provide virtually little information, if the lynchee flips town. All we get from that is that LLD didn’t townread Maria.

[Nancy Drew 39]

1 of Auro/Dva
Prob UT
and some lurker slots atm.

The people going for the sword should be SS UT Dva Kokichi

Why wasn’t Auro in your list? What did he do/not do to change your read on him?

While it’s pretty damned obvious that Auro/DVa are never w/w here, that doesn’t mean either of them are scum.

But it bothers me, that you’re suggesting that Auro could be scum but didn’t suggest he attempt to claim the sword last night.

[MariaR]

Because I don't sr Auro atm.

[MariaR]

I basically think Dva is pretty good choice of scum given how Auro vs dva happened but in the off chance Dva flipped town I would respect her read and flip Auro.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Because I don't sr Auro atm.

I basically think Dva is pretty good choice of scum given how Auro vs dva happened but in the off chance Dva flipped town I would respect her read and flip Auro.

Why couldn’t they both be town here?

[MariaR]

Auro? Maybe I could see it.
I do think Dva is scummy without Auro involved though

[Gamma Emerald]

Elsa Jay is Mei
Dunnstal is Reinhardt
Gamma Emerald is Roadhog
Firebringer is Ana
Nancy is Tracer

can i be tracer?

I’m already Tracer

[Gamma Emerald]

What do you think about my idea? Where Maria (and nobody else) claims the sword if LLD flips scum?

If this is the plan I refuse to go for the sword.

Like the whole point of me going for the sword is so I live ya know? If I die the point is moot

w/e do I rly have a choice I'll just die either by scum nk or by town lynch zz

I won't go for the sword...or maybe I will we'll make scum guess

I'm not doing it just so I can be a nk I rather play the game ty.

Tbf Dunn, this makes total sense. Why does scum!Maria say she’s not going for the sword, as opposed to making excuses for not being the one to claim it. Because FG, said that the potential swordclaimer can be NK’d before they can hypothetically become bp right?

Scum maria can't gaurantee that town goes for the sword

It looked like UT and varsoon were backing off it at eod

So if it lays there unclaimed after she said she'd go for it she's outted

Day 2

Excalibur is

claimed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-12-09 22:00:00)

Yeah, but there was a big frenzy to get someone to claim it
Maria freaking out did ping me as well

[SirCakez]

I don't think scum Varsoon kills S_S out of defensiveness here. Doesn't seem like his type of move.

Maria what's your read on Dunn?

Also Elsa definitely looks worse with the LLD flip. The gladiate timing is more suspicious, makes a lot of sense as scum (cuts day short and secures an easy mislynch when it could have gone elsewhere, plus nobody really objects to that gladiation).
As well I think there is probably scum in the mob of low content slots (Ariane slot, FA slot, Kokichi, Veridian).

So who's scum then, Nancy?

My guess would be someone who was pushing Varsoon, unless there’s some other reason scum kills SS that I don’t understand.

can we get some names? this is a vague af response

Yes Cakes, it is “vague af”. If I actually had an answer, I’d obviously tell you.

Any rate, my strong townread on Elsa has lessened, because I’m not sure I buy that Auro was in serious jeopardy of being gladiated.

I was initially suspicious of Ariane and if PP doesn’t pick it up today, that will increase my suspicion on that slot. I also am curious what FA replacement will do.

FoS
when are you gonna declare some actual scumreads?

[Kokichi Oma]

So who is scum

[Firebringer]

So who is scum

prob u and maria

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don't think scum Varsoon kills S_S out of defensiveness here. Doesn't seem like his type of move.

Maria what's your read on Dunn?

Also Elsa definitely looks worse with the LLD flip. The gladiate timing is more suspicious, makes a lot of sense as scum (cuts day short and secures an easy mislynch when it could have gone elsewhere, plus nobody really objects to that gladiation).
As well I think there is probably scum in the mob of low content slots (Ariane slot, FA slot, Kokichi, Veridian).

So who's scum then, Nancy?

My guess would be someone who was pushing Varsoon, unless there’s some other reason scum kills SS that I don’t understand.

can we get some names? this is a vague af response

Yes Cakes, it is “vague af”. If I actually had an answer, I’d obviously tell you.

Any rate, my strong townread on Elsa has lessened, because I’m not sure I buy that Auro was in serious jeopardy of being gladiated.

I was initially suspicious of Ariane and if PP doesn’t pick it up today, that will increase my suspicion on that slot. I also am curious what FA replacement will do.

FoS
when are you gonna declare some actual scumreads?

When you actually read my posts.