A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Vecna]

while his role will have to die regardless for scum to have any shot at this game

Wait, is this about Fire? ok yeah but I don't understand that as a response to "I guess the next thing is how he treats Gamma. Like he sort of freaks out when Fire was going to give Wheme a gun to shoot Gamma and then he starts to argue a Fire/Gamma team. " Walk me through it.

I honestly dont remember. I think at the time I thought gamma was likely scum. I still dont have a freaking clue about the slot. Pretty bad slot to give a gun to.

[Vecna]

Profii replaces Adelbert Steiner.

No idea if this is one of the people I asked to replace the slot, but hurray.

[Jingle]

The problem is if my results keep getting 'tampered' like the one on Lady Angel.

If scum devotes effort to fucking with the flavor cop that doesn't get hard guilties ever over literally any other role, I'm okay with that. More to the point, having the person who you investigated claim before you is just good sense because I'm pretty sure no one doubts that you are both town and have the role you claim to have.

[Vecna]

NSG's probably town, so it's likely Nico?

Well NSG has to be scum if Nico is town unless you think Meme is scum and just why? Like you are saying that RC makes a role that powers scum and I just don't think that's a thing. I could see Nico hyper bussing Mastin and mainly ignoring the rest of the game.

If scum has a role that is inherently pro-town, why can town not have a role that is inherently pro-scum?

(talking about Mastina vs Invis here, both could very well be pro-opposite-allignment).

[Vecna]

Am I the only one that's minorly suspicious that JJH's death proof is similar to Profi's role? Do you think that RC gives us two of those? Or is that too simplistic? Just like Chick and Jingle are both claimed vendors.

The game appears to be full of duplicate shit so far.

Duplicate music flavour (me & chick)

Duplicate rolecop (NR and whoever the fuck it is im forgetting?)

Duplicate fruit vendor shit (im drunk and just typing)

Duplicate role implicating shit about allignment (mastina/Meme)

Duplicate roles working together (Meme + invis)

All of this shit seems to be designed around pairs or more of a single theme

[Creature]

Duplicate rolecop (NR and whoever the fuck it is im forgetting?)

Me?

[Vecna]

You constantly kept at a rather safe distance from the whole Mastina thing. You wanted her lynched, without -really- sticking your neck out for it, and the follow-up lines up quite nicely with how id imagine a scumteam to formulate a plan here.

Was our treatment all that different? I mean true, I'd look at her play and go "man she's scummy" and then I guess I'd kinda psych myself out into thinking she was a town role and let's be honest I was a little sympathetic if she was actually sick. You pretty much hard town read her b/c you believed you blocked scums kill to wanting her lynched and then were all like "oh I'm just annoyed with her, she's town though"

It wasnt. Hence im not hard-pushing you for it. Hence im also not hard-pushing Jingle or JJH for their treatment of the slot. I feel there is some inherent towny'ness in recognizing the potential townvalue and wanting to exploit it. Undoubtedly there is also a scumfucker (or two) just hiding in that, since scum would naturally want to bus Mastina's role.

Regardless, I was also extremely suspicious of the role, combined with my own role. The stupid save just seemed to allign up too damn well. Sadly.

[Jingle]

Rolecop is NR and Creature. Both of which are not quite.

Fruit vendor is you, me and chick, all of which are different variants.

There's also two loud roles, two post restrictions, etc.

[Vecna]

Dreaming God

Just looking at this wiki entrance makes me believe the claim is total bullshiterino extrimo. Who was it that claimed it again. Alcohol prevents logical thoughts. Lets ksill>?

[Vecna]

wait a minute. What even is a dreaming god??

-LH

Essentially, I'm given a list of dreams (With names like "Dream of Happiness" or something) and on night 1 I can pick one. I'm not told what the dreams do, either. Depending on the dream, I can influence the game state passively without realizing it, although I haven't noticed anything whatsoever that could be attributed to the dream I had N1.

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huhu

suyrde

[Vecna]

Duplicate rolecop (NR and whoever the fuck it is im forgetting?)

Me?

YES.

YOu

[Vecna]

My beavis Avatar also needs a christmas hat. I has christmas tree. Its nice. Pretty lighst.

Hi?.

west wing ftw

[Creature]

My beavis Avatar also needs a christmas hat.

Good luck, I struggled to put a santa hat on my avatar

[Lady Angel]

I gave up trying to put a santa hat on mine so I did a christmasy recolour instead.

[Nero Cain]

What if all the duplicate roles are red herrings? Though a Nico scumflip would mean thats untrue.

[Nero Cain]

I care about behaviors.

Well, you don't seem to really go in depth about why you are reading the way you do or how you feel about things. It seems like you've mostly thrown a hissy fit when I was scumreading you and thrown out some random unexplained reads. I mean there could be more but that's really what I remember.

Why are you trying to outguess what RC would do in his games? He likes to do wacky things, in case you haven't realized yet.

he also explicitly stated he would not have given a role like Mastina's to town. So the whole "RC does crazy things" feels like an excuse to keep paranoia alive.

So if any of yall dispute please speak up and I’ll go form my initial opinions

you should just ISO the living-Fire.

Pretty bad slot to give a gun to.

he (fire) was giving the gun to Wheme to SHOOT Gamma.

[Nero Cain]

Like, there are at least 2 scum here. I've removed Nico and NSG b/c one is scum and the other is town so they don't matter. I've also removed meme b/c I have a hard time seeing that as scum. ISO them and then tell us who to lynch after we resolve the day.

6) Gamma Emerald
12) Porkens
13) Whemestar
14) Vecna
15) Lady Angel
18) Jingle
20) Creature
21) jjh927
22) Aristophanes

[Creature]

Keep Gamma
Keep Porkens
Keep Wheme
Would remove Vecna
Would remove Lady Angel (if I can solve that result problem)
Would remove Jingle (just because nihilism tbh)
Would remove myself obviously
Keep jjh927
Keep Aristophanes

[WhemeStar]

counterpoint: why me

there are what i feel like are pretty decent reasons for nico being scum

what are the reasons for me being scum?

I don’t know you just don’t spew town to me

Trying to figure out why the lock on nico

[WhemeStar]

Wheme's scum, though. 6758 settles that.

Rawr ur good at mafia

[Shoshin]

I feel like Wheme's sharper than this as town. Anyone disagree?

[Shoshin]

Well, you don't seem to really go in depth about why you are reading the way you do or how you feel about things. It seems like you've mostly thrown a hissy fit when I was scumreading you and thrown out some random unexplained reads. I mean there could be more but that's really what I remember.

I'm telling you that my reads are based on behaviors, not what people claim or the investigative results they claim to have.

As for the why behind my reads, I've talked about them quite a bit? I've definitely talked about NSG & Pork, and I'm happy to talk about others if there's a particular one you're confused about.

[Shoshin]

Well, you don't seem to really go in depth about why you are reading the way you do or how you feel about things. It seems like you've mostly thrown a hissy fit when I was scumreading you and thrown out some random unexplained reads. I mean there could be more but that's really what I remember.

This feels like a very unfair characterization of my play so far. Can someone else weigh in on this? I need an outsider's view, please.

[WhemeStar]

I feel like Wheme's sharper than this as town. Anyone disagree?

No one does lmao

[Gamma Emerald]

Votecount 5.04

jingle (1) : nero
nico (6) : jjh, nsg, creat, fb, jingle, lady

Not Voting: Aristophanes, Nicorobin, Whemestar, profi, Gamma Emerald, Porkens, Shiro, Sora, Vecna, Shoshin

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch.

The day will end on Dec 11/12

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vecna - 3-shot jk, shos - bg, profi/alde/kuroi - able to resurrect & conf town, firebringer - neighbor & conf town, nicorobin - tracker triplevoter, us - parity cop doublevoter, nero/jingle/LA/nsg/aris/wheme/GE/pork - refused to claim

Nvm I miscounted, still only 6 votes. Point still stands though about nico getting us a reads list.

-LH

REFUSED to claim? Who asked???