Open 741: Red Flag [Endgame]

[Keyser Söze]

So basically...you

resorted

your

null read

to be...
...Nulltown?

Yes.

As you will find out this playerlist is tough and not very giving. You try your hardest to dig on a slot, but they follow a cycle of being guarded and awkward-EMOTION!-close off.

[LolWagons]

the fun zone that's what

MY wagon has a ball pit.

Seriously though bad vote.

[LolWagons]

I mean I know you don’t want to vote your partner but you can afford another lynch it’s fine

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm going to bed now but like I'm pretty sure pintu spews gamma town so just don't

[AnonymousGhost]

wrong again ^.^

[LolWagons]

I'm going to bed now but like I'm pretty sure pintu spews gamma town so just don't

I’m not particularly keen on listening to you to be honest. You have this air about you that expects me to listen to what you say and I’m over it.

[Keyser Söze]

Ceejay only has 30 posts which I was surprised about.

Ceejay was quite quick to oppose the early wagons on Gamma, Meme and BJ. I think we may need to look at this later in terms of associations / potential TMI.

I do like the fact CJ only gave Nib a null read, as it would have been easy to give a sheepish t/read on Nib, whose tone was pretty towny from the offset IMO. The fact CJ played with scum/Nib kind of complements this too.

CJ, after getting called out for being a periphery figure, ended D1 with a disengaged tone and promptly disappeared from the thread. I can remember on D1 liking where his votes were (BJ, Springtap) but retrospectively looking back now, I don’t really have a feel of why he was there.

Similar to Clem, I need to see that drive from CJ to aggressively solve this game. I don’t think he is a slot you can hard scum read or hard town read. I don’t like the fact his disengagement coincided with players pressing him. I thought that should have put abit of fire in his belly instead.

[Clemency]

Going to re-read all my null/scum, null/town reads, starting with Clemency:

I feel like Clem has always played by his rules and pace. His ISO is full of: early blatant attempt to extend RVS, fluff posting, signs of being very conscious of his playstyle, lots of talking about himself and what he thinks about the gamestate, self-deprecating feels...

This is the quintessential Clem post:

i'm seriously concerned with the amount of lurk y'all are letting me get away with

It is pretty evident he doesn’t mind the focus being on himself.

It even took him til his 67th post to share his first articulated reads on Nibs, Aster and Volx

okay holy shit nvm you're all way too high intensity for me
i can't even bring myself to read all this

Clem keeps getting overwhelmed by gamestate atmosphere/player moods - has anyone played with Clem before? Is this alignment indicative?

Taking a step back from his ISO as a whole, his tone feels like a low WIM/low motivated townie, but I need to see Clem pro-actively sort the playerlist to deserve a more tangible town read. I feel like he’s a passenger. His thread energy fluctuates from excited puppy to pessimist. I think he needs to play more serious as he’s proving a difficult player to sort.


Ceejay next.

the way i usually play is i sign up for 4-5 games and lurk around until one of them gets exciting, at which point i try to make myself the front runner of one idea or another (aka this person is definitely town so i'll defend them as hard as i can or this person is definitely scum so i'll deathtunnel them)
i cant really do that here since the wall-o'-text playstyle clashes with my skirmishes so hard
you people play less like an argument and more like a debate club tourney and it intimidates me
i dont mind pressure on me since it forces me off my ass and creates the before-mentioned "skirmish", for the clearing of my own role

[LolWagons]

Oh my god you people

What’s the point sorting through your null reads if they’re all still null

[Clemency]

nah i live for drama this is great
wanna be archenemies, lolwagons

Sure!

hey buddy

[LolWagons]

Clemency it’s not even a good debate club it’s like topic is Climate Change and one guy is talking about the second amendment and the other one is like “trust me guys the climate is changing I’ll talk more tomorrow”

[Clemency]

i chose a good arch nemesis
you can be the doug judy to my jake peralta

[LolWagons]

And how the fuck are you surprised he only has 30 posts I’m surprised every time I see him on the vote tally because he never posts. 30 seems high like Christ what the hell

[LolWagons]

i chose a good arch nemesis
you can be the doug judy to my jake peralta

I don’t know either but I’ll trust you that they are nemeses

[Clemency]

watch brooklyn 99

[Clemency]

Clemency it’s not even a good debate club it’s like topic is Climate Change and one guy is talking about the second amendment and the other one is like “trust me guys the climate is changing I’ll talk more tomorrow”

"i'll talk more tomorrow" is my favourite part i'm just imagining the opposition leaving the competition with a smug grin and coming back the next day

[Clemency]

okay now this is an aura i can work with
which is annoying because its 3 am

[Blackjacks]

Ceejay not posting for a week is vaguely scum-indicative for him I think (iirc in his game I modded he was talking about strategically lurking to the point of letting himself get prodded in the scum pt), but he also constantly lurks a lot as town so it's probably only a weak indicator

-r

[LolWagons]

He lurked as town recently but was more engaged so idk

[Keyser Söze]

Oh my god you people

What’s the point sorting through your null reads if they’re all still null

Please talk about my reads, don’t undermine them.
Are these players nullish to you?

Thanks

[Keyser Söze]

BJ re-read:

If I scutinize my scum read of BJ it was influenced alot by my scum team feels for BJ-Springtap (or more the connections I was making via Springtaps posts).

Looking at BJ in isolation he does admittedly look ‘better’.

Firstly, I’m always going to have problems with his awkward entrance and early OTT scum read of Volx, but BJ does build that scum read into a fleshed out case later in D1, which feels more real second time reading.

I’m a sucker for emotion and post 795 does stink of disgruntled townie.

WIFOM FUEL: the fact BJ keeps calling the SpringTap wagon as a boring lynch / a lynch on low hanging fruit, but still being part of the eventual Spring wagon works in his favour, as scum-BJ ends D1 with zero towncred.

I lack actual reads, whatever

VOTE: lolwagons

I think this was the best entrance into D2 too.

I think BJ opens D2 in the fresh green pastures of town.

[LolWagons]

Oh my god you people

What’s the point sorting through your null reads if they’re all still null

Please talk about my reads, don’t undermine them.
Are these players nullish to you?

Thanks

Not saying your reads are bad saying you told us you were going to sort through them which I think understandably gave us the expectation they’d be something other than null. In a game starved of content that’d be a welcome addition.

Ceejay lurked as town but was on all the right wagons and he wound up being town. He was, qualitatively, more engaged last game I played with him as town. I don’t think his play here is as engaged so I have him tilt scum.

Clemency is playing how I figured he would. He’s a tough read but if there was a gun to my head I’d say town.

[LolWagons]

YOU THINK LACKING READS ON DAY TWO IS A TOWNTELL ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME

[Clemency]

god bless

[LolWagons]

Well shit I take it back

I take it ALL BACK

I don’t have any reads now! I don’t want to play! Am I town now?