Open 741: Red Flag [Endgame]


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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:18 pm

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Can't answer that right now.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:21 pm

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In post 1446, PenguinPower wrote:Read from and give me your opinion.

kthx.
why did you want me to start there?
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:22 pm

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Because you didn't want to read the whole game, and fmpov everything that matters starts there.
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:30 pm

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In post 1452, PenguinPower wrote:Because you didn't want to read the whole game, and fmpov everything that matters starts there.
where did you start?
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:33 pm

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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:35 pm

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In post 1347, Clemency wrote:votes make the game go places
votes are fun
back and forths are fun
stagnated games = not fun
so why aren't you voting?
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:04 pm

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MOD: power out at home. No power, no Internet. Out all night most likely, and busy shopping for holidays tomorrow; V/LA at least 48 hours
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:09 pm

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(Also, ow.
I now know of a single reason why my mafsilver preference could on a specific occasion be a bad thing.

Surrounded by pitch black, try turning on your phone and staring straight at it. Suddenly, blind.)
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:19 am

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glad I replaced into such an active game here..................................................
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:50 am

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tell me about it
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:09 am

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What if we just agree to live in peace with the scums?
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:11 am

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are you proposing we negotiate with terrorists
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:13 am

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Nvm

VOTE: TTTT
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:45 am

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Meh... I've seen worse votes
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:48 am

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so I agree with pengy that Aster is likely town
Plot twist!!! I think the case on pengy being scum is kinda decent
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:03 pm

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this is like a giant group project where nobody wants to do any of the work because they don't wanna interact with eachother
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:20 pm

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Now imagine one kid moves halfway through the year and the teacher asks for a volunteer to take his place in the group and I'm the idiot who raises his hand.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:40 pm

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I’m back...


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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:48 pm

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söze make this game run thanks
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:04 pm

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Spoiler: LolWagon’s ‘behaviour case’ on Gamma wonderfully encapsulates my D1 suspicion of Gamma’s over-concern with their ‘appearance’:
In post 1142, LolWagons wrote:I'm leaving out anything before Official start which is #94. GE Iso (Things in Parentheses could be debatable as to which category they fit best in) :

RQS: 99, 120, 303
Self-Defense: 104, 120, 123, 143, 212, 227, 323, 463, 593, 597, 605, 610, 946, 953, (1012), (1015), (1016), (1024), (1026), 1029,
Opinions w/out Substance: 106, (127), 148, 588, 712, 1097
Reads with Substance: 166, (311), 313
Non-Defensive Interaction with Others: 123, 129, (147), 158, 207, 240, 334, 464, [549, 564, 571, 573, 575, 581], 585, 632, 713, 781, 888, 891, 911, 913, 1003, 1010, 1046, 1062
Tangentially Game-Related or Filler: 124, 125, 126, 179, 213, 225, 267, 349, 466, 548, 638, 641, 749, 810, 910, 955, 957, 1032, 1044, 1048

Can't Tell?: 250, 613

What the fuck is 578 I can't decipher it.

You can go through these 1 by 1 if you wish but GE looks a lot like a player who is trying to look busy and look like he is having an impact without ever really throwing the hat in the ring. The breakdown in posting is:

33% Tangents/Fluff/Unexplained Reads
26% Self-Defense (I define this as not necessarily being defensive, but being overly concerned with the posturing of your slot with the town or subtly trying to posture)
4% RQS

So we are at about two-thirds mostly meaningless interaction in terms of driving the game forward. I want to note that everyone is allowed to defend themselves, but if you look at his ISO, he seems overly concerned about posturing and everyone's read on him.

The other 37% is reads with rationale and Non-Defensive Interaction With Others (But the vast majority of this -90% or so-is the latter).

Even within those posts (I highly recommend everyone read them, I basically distilled this ISO for you) there isn't a lot of meaningful interaction going on. the only parts of the ISO I really felt like were sincere attempts to drive conversation were the section in brackets, but I'm not as confident as I was that was town when I look through the rest of the ISO. I also find it odd that in one point of the game there was this groundswell of thought that Gamma was being useful and it seemed a bit ubiquitous for a while. Retroactively I don't see that.


Anyway, VOTE: GammaEmerald

This is a good way to go.



This post sends shivers down my spine (in the lining up lynches way) is this an opportunistic vote disguised as a sheep vote? :o Is it a bus disguised as a sheep? :giggle: :
In post 1150, pinturicchio wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Mastina if you're wrong with this, my vote tomorrow will be parked on you. You are misreping the whole blackjack situation so if Gamma is town, I'm expecting you going for me tomorrow instead of the other players you have named and your scumread on me is poor, very poor. Your whole premise is how some players are related to Gamma
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:05 pm

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Clemency why did you vote PP?
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:05 pm

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In post 1470, ofrhz wrote:Clemency why did you vote PP?
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:17 pm

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In post 1471, Blackjacks wrote:
In post 1470, ofrhz wrote:Clemency why did you vote PP?
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:27 pm

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In post 1431, AnonymousGhost wrote:
Aster wrote:
I have a hard time believing a townie really thinks that in good faith, and it seems more likely that he's just saying that in order to defend his scumbuddy Gamma.

the fact that you haven't been able to get a scum!Ghost wagon off the ground since D1 despite the fact that you practically HAD a majority of 5 people speaks for itself
I'm not following what conclusions you're drawing from this
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:30 pm

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T^4 how much of the game have you read?
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