A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6


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Post Post #7775 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:22 pm

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I don't know, this is as baffling to me as it is to you! All I'm saying is that either I was blocked some other way or that their result is bullshit!

Also, I've asked RC multiple questions without answer and yet they happened to get a response moments after he did a real VC?
Seems like they used his appearance to justify this bullshit to me!
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Post Post #7776 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:25 pm

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In post 7775, Aristophanes wrote:Also, I've asked RC multiple questions without answer and yet they happened to get a response moments after he did a real VC?
I asked that question like 4 times over the last ten pages.
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Post Post #7777 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:30 pm

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Unless there's two scum left, Jingle's town.
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Post Post #7778 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:32 pm

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In post 7776, Jingle wrote:
In post 7775, Aristophanes wrote:Also, I've asked RC multiple questions without answer and yet they happened to get a response moments after he did a real VC?
I asked that question like 4 times over the last ten pages.
Yeah, so?
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Post Post #7779 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:34 pm

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i still have no idea what's going on but if ari/jingle is a 1v1, i'd almost always vote ari from what ive read in the time ive been here



yes this is a mechanics unrelated read and like the only one youll find in 300 pages apparently
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Post Post #7780 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:35 pm

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Can Jingle, Profii, and Creature confirm they were targeted by Gamma?
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Post Post #7781 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:37 pm

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In post 7777, Shoshin wrote:Unless there's two scum left, Jingle's town.
Pretty sure there's two scum left. :shifty:
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Post Post #7782 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:38 pm

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I was.

Or rather, I was targeted by someone who had the role Gamma claims to have, and if it wasn't gamma himself we have bigger problems.
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Post Post #7783 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:38 pm

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In post 7781, Jingle wrote:
In post 7777, Shoshin wrote:Unless there's two scum left, Jingle's town.
Pretty sure there's two scum left. :shifty:
At least we can agree on something here!
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Post Post #7784 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:40 pm

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I'm pretty sure we also both agree that my flip solves a lot of questions for town.

Like, I don't know what to say. I like you, but I don't see a way you're not scum. I have laid all of my cards on the table.
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Post Post #7785 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:44 pm

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As have I mine. And your flip does indeed simplify a hell of a lot! I don't see how we can solve this game without it tbh
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Post Post #7786 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:13 pm

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I think the best play here is lynch Aristophanes, shoot Jingle/Sheep, lynch Jingle/Sheep.

If that doesn't end the game I'll be pretty surprised.
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Post Post #7787 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:23 pm

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Can’t shoot me, I’m top of the activity charts.
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Post Post #7788 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:28 pm

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Shooting me would work but I am hider so shooting my hiding target was a proposed plan (by jingle, so probably to remove max people in a single phase as it kills myself, Gamma, and LA in one night). This is also why Gamma has stopped posting this phase.

This isn't hard. Lynch Jingle, shoot highest scum iv that remains. I say Nero should shoot sheep, but the babysitter plan is fine if it means we sort the game properly and lynch sheep D7.
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Post Post #7789 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:36 pm

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If you were to hide behind me, have Gamma babysit me, and then have Nero shoot Gamma, would that kill all three of us?
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Post Post #7790 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:41 pm

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Organized night plans with a roleblock and possibly redirect in the hands of scum is bad.
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Post Post #7791 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:43 pm

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In post 7789, Lady Angel wrote:If you were to hide behind me, have Gamma babysit me, and then have Nero shoot Gamma, would that kill all three of us?
To my understanding, yes
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Post Post #7792 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:44 pm

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In post 7790, Jingle wrote:Organized night plans with a roleblock and possibly redirect in the hands of scum is bad.
We should be down one of those after your lynch tho so *shrugs*
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Post Post #7793 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:45 pm

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Like this was your idea wasn't it! Why are you backing out of it now?
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Post Post #7794 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:48 pm

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Because in hindsight it’s a bad plan.

I do occasionally have bad plans.
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Post Post #7795 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:00 pm

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I feel like there's three decent ideas here:

- Lynch Aristophanes, shoot Sheep, Lynch Jingle. Jingle's not getting activity vigged at this point and if Aristophanes actually is the Nihilism blocker that prevents any sort of scum-killing-the-vig shenanigans and keeps Nero alive as long as one of our not-Vecna protectives is on him for the night. If Aristophanes isn't the Nihilism blocker, shooting Sheep gets tricky since there isn't a town roleblocker that doesn't protect their targets, and the blocker's probably Sheep then. I'd rather not trade if possible, we'll probably still need Nero around for a while.

- Lynch Jingle, if it works do what I mention in the above post and kill off three null slots. This doesn't hit scum unless Aristophanes is scum, but it does narrow down the mislynch pool quite a lot and at that point if we magically find a scum in there we lynch Sheep the next day. If Aristophanes doesn't die, lynch him the next day and then deal with Sheep.

- Lynch Sheep, do the babysitter plan, and then lynch Jingle. This relies on Sheep being the roleblocker, but if he is we give Nero free reign for as long as we can keep protecting him. This is probably the lowest-risk plan and the most likely one to end the game succesfully, as any plan involving Nero involves making sure the roleblocker can't target Nero. However, if sheep is flipless and doesn't flip alignment either we effectively gained nothing.

I'd also like to ask NSG not to act the next night, please, in any of these.

I'll leave it up to town to decide which one, but I'm confident in saying these are the way to go to clear out the null/scum slots.

Currently, the only slots without confirmed effects are myself, Aristophanes, Shoshin (confirmed Delayed entrance, not bodyguard), Sheep (confirmed to reflexively(?) send out messages), NSG, and possibly Gamma if Jingle flips scum, because then Gamma's only been confirmed by scum.

This doesn't account for anyone hiding part of their claim, obviously.
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Post Post #7796 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:28 pm

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In post 7780, Shoshin wrote:Can Jingle, Profii, and Creature confirm they were targeted by Gamma?
I’ve had no Pm to say so but that might be a replace in issue -
@mod if I’m missing any PMs from prior nights can I get an update please
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Post Post #7797 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:38 pm

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In post 7741, Jingle wrote:RC answered, Ari is scum.

Hider shows up as a Hider action.
Juicy juicy. So what is the theory that happened then? Because that still means were missing an action on Meme, and an explenation for the firebringer/jailkeep stuff.
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Post Post #7798 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:53 pm

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In post 7774, Lady Angel wrote:Why would Scum!Jingle fake a mod result to initiate a 1v1 outside of lylo when he's a fairly townread player?

And why against you?
So as to not be the one lynched today to confirm all the shit he's saying?

Are you not aware that he's been most likely caught lying with his tracker result N4? Unless I was redirected by scum, but this is mechanically impossible with only two scum remaining.

Look at the rule that Jingle dug up. Unless their role pm states it, a player cannot do a factional kill and a an activated ability unless their role pm states so.

That means either a towny still hasnt spoked up about my visit.

Or they intentionally did not Nightkill, and just redirected me to their own jailkeeper (so that the roleblocker could still roleblock)

Or that theres three scum, and that Shoshin is confirmed scum.

The correct course of action here is to actually lynch jingle.
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Post Post #7799 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:00 pm

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VOTE: Jingle
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