no deadlines mafia [game over]

[CheekyTeeky]

meh i had some short second thoughts on cheeky last night for a bit

It's cute that you think about me but why would you question my loyalty?

[Nancy Drew 39]

this thread has definitely slowed down by a concerning amount yeah



can i have other peoples thoughts on hebi? my recent interaction made with them made me feel pretty uncomfortable with them and realize that theyve sort of just been unconsciously not in my radar so far but i feel like i might be a bit confbiased here

530 was pretty scummy tbh. Why wouldn't town lynch scum just because they're newbscum?

Didn’t she say, “no reason not to kill it then”?

I guess you’re right... but then she votes sheep? Her actions and words seem to be doing two different things.

The thing with Hebi, is that she is one of the most frequently wrongly scumread players on this site and based on other games I’ve played with her and only one time was she scum - nothing about her play so far, strikes me as any different from any of her other towngames.

[Wisdom]

agreed

[Nancy Drew 39]

my sensors have finished calibrating and determined that the game is going too slow to not vote someone who i think is likely either jester or scum

VOTE: leodanny

for the record xtomx leo and Jay are all pretty fantastic votes at the moment imo

if i had an order preference it'd prob be like jay->leo->xtomx but tbf to him xtomx is being non-existent in the neighborhood too which is v. disappointing but prob doesn't make him much more likely scum than his thread posts on their own

I think, we might be mindmelding here.

But no one is going to vote him off of one atrocious post and his vote on Kokichi and his reasoning, and then worrying more about the spelling, then the dafuq reasosning is weird and his townplay in that one game, is better than it is here.

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: leodanny

I hope you cash in on that stockmarket winfall.

[Wisdom]

jay is an outed alt btw for whoever cares

[vonflare]

Can I make puts and calls, wagonomics?

[Gamma Emerald]

Tis true. One day I'll be right though.

Not a good reason to keep it up though. You can only cry wolf so many times...

[Gamma Emerald]

@Wagonomics

: what is the equivalent of a pump-and-dump here?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Tis true. One day I'll be right though.

Not a good reason to keep it up though. You can only cry wolf so many times...

???

[TheBrie]

potato = newbscum

So no reason not to kill it then?

I can very well see sheep being scum too. His latest posts seem really panicky when brought up against Varoon there, and that large post of his basically made no sense to me, dunno if it did for anyone else.

How did Varsoon react poorly to pressure, sheep?

VOTE: Sheep

The post was a little confusing, but more in a 'sheep just isn't very coherant' manner than a scummy manner. I don't think Varsoon is as bad as I think sheep is trying to make out, but the point that we shouldn't just forget about him when he went quiet under pressure is good. Varsoon honestly hasn't really scum hunted. And now he says he's not going to be very active.

I don't think people were jumping wagons to shift attention off Varsoon though. Leodanny made his wagon appear by being terribly without any external interference.
Yes, sheep is confusing. Trying to analyze his post makes me sound confusing too.


Is there really anything Leodanny could do or say at this point that would make people not want to vote him? And if not, is that entirely a good thing? I'm pretty ready to lynch him, but there's a part of me that hates the idea of anyone being doomed even in mafia. Unless they've done something interesting to doom themselves. Whatever. I'll do it.
VOTE: Leodanny
L-2

Spoiler: The blind will see, the deaf will hear, the dead will live again.

[singletonking]

Ok, actually catching up now.

I dislike this logic. Just because you infiltrated a community in the past does not mean someone is automatically infiltrating that community.

Really? I took it as quite towny that he opens already intent on looking for decent avenues to push. You serm to be taking this too seriously.

Why would you call voting in a neighbourhood a 'decent avenue to push'?

[singletonking]

Uh why is someone already at L-2?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok, actually catching up now.

I dislike this logic. Just because you infiltrated a community in the past does not mean someone is automatically infiltrating that community.

Really? I took it as quite towny that he opens already intent on looking for decent avenues to push. You serm to be taking this too seriously.

Why would you call voting in a neighbourhood a 'decent avenue to push'?

I'm not?

[singletonking]

Also re:when to lynch

This game ran recently:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=76400

It's not the same as it had anti-spam post restrictions, but it also had indefinite deadlines, so may be useful on pacing strategies. I wasn't in the game however so I don't know too much about this.

[singletonking]

Ok, actually catching up now.

I dislike this logic. Just because you infiltrated a community in the past does not mean someone is automatically infiltrating that community.

Really? I took it as quite towny that he opens already intent on looking for decent avenues to push. You serm to be taking this too seriously.

Why would you call voting in a neighbourhood a 'decent avenue to push'?

I'm not?

So what were you talking about?

[Xtoxm]

L-2 already? That's not what this game is about guys!

If I die n1 look into Varsoon I'm not explicitly townreading him here

[singletonking]

Spoiler: Can I infiltrate your neighborhood?

@Gamma - what if I joined this game so that I'd have the freedom to only look at the thread once a month?

On a serious note, I may as well claim because y'all will find out soon enough and it's anti-town to hide it. Nobody asked to see my magic trick, so I have to reveal the boring way:
I'm a triple voter. My vote counts as three votes. The VC will indicate so by listing my vote three times.

Ok, Edo being a triplevoter makes him likely town.

And I see that Edo is not already on the L-2 wagon, which means that wagon is even more likely to be trash

[CheekyTeeky]

So what were you talking about?

How it looked like he started to scumhunt?

[singletonking]

votecount 1.08

8 players voting for Leodanny (Purrcocet, profii, hebichan, Gamma Emerald, Wisdom, CheekyTeeky, Kokichi Oma)
2 players voting for Varsoon (sheepsaysmeep, Jaylow7)
2 players voting for Jaylow7 (Party Boat, Nancy Drew 39)
2 players voting for Gamma Emerald (TheBrie, Ausuka)
2 players voting for sheepsaysmeep (Vaxkiller, Varsoon)
1 player voting for Vaxkiller (Wagonomics)
1 player voting for Kokichi Oma (Leodanny)

8 players not voting (0verki11, singletonking, Theta Alpine, light_ganski, Xtoxm, Edosurist, Jaylow7, vonflare)

with 24 votes, it takes 13 to lynch.

mod notes: this votecount is identical to the last one, but yuo know what? sometimes you just gotta get that pagetop

Actually is the votecount even accurate? I count only 7 people voting Leodanny here, and Jaylow7 appears on Varsoon as well as Not Voting

@Mod

Or has anyone else claimed vote-related roles that I've not seen yet?

[singletonking]

So what were you talking about?

How it looked like he started to scumhunt?

How was anything he had done by that point (which is only 30) scumhunting?

[singletonking]

Actually, I'm liking Cheeky from her townread on Porkens/scumread on Brie, it looks like she's trying to sort people early game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tis true. One day I'll be right though.

Not a good reason to keep it up though. You can only cry wolf so many times...

???

Saying if the tell is continually wrong people might not trust it when it is right

[singletonking]

Woah woah guys these votes
We have no deadlines
What's the rush?

Also, I'm in a PT with Party Boat, Xtoxm, and Nancy Drew 39.
This PT began before gamestart.
We've currently got about 15 posts in there.
It's fairly chill.
That's all I wanted to say.

I'm liable to believe that at least one of the four people in my PT is scum, which is why I decided to out the PT in the first place.
That said, it's a fallacy to assume that the same ratio of town to scum in the main thread applies to any PT, so I'd prefer we didn't hunt out of that PT group.

VOTE: Profii

'cus it's a fallacy to assume the same ratios exist within a neighborhood.
If we're all town in there and I make the mistake of assuming one of us is scum, then I have a 100% chance of mislynching if I concentrate there, whereas the game thread ALWAYS has the assured setup ratio.
And I know if I mislynch in there I'll sunk cost it and keep lynching in there
and if they all flip town then I know I'm up shit creek for being the last one left.
Does that make sense?

Wait Varsoon, why would you out your PT saying you think there's likely scum in your hood, then say that your PT could be all town?

[singletonking]

FWIW I think it's best to ignore that neighbourhood in terms of scumhunting, i.e. not have it affect your reads in terms of town/scum ratio, except of course that all of them being scum is implausible.