Open 741: Red Flag [Endgame]

[northsidegal]

Votecount 3.0

Not voting (9):

Clemency, Blackjacks, Gamma Emerald, AnonymousGhost, TTTT, Aster, mastina, RadiantCowbells, Keyser Söze

With 9 alive, it’s 5 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-30 23:42:59).

[mastina]

Well.

Let's get this over with.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald.
If I am going to gamethrow by voting town, then fuckit I'm going to do it immediately and right straight out of the gate.

If I am going to be wrong and cost the town the game, I am going to do so promptly and immediately rather than after two weeks of wasting everyone's time.

If I am going to be wrong, better wrong now than later.

And if I'm not wrong?

If this happens to be a vote on scum?

All the better, because this is a fight I know that, if it's against scum, I'll win.

So let's test that theory, shall we?

[mastina]

I mean at this point.
If Clemency is scum, the game is won for scum anyway since I'd never lynch him.
If Blackjacks is scum, the game is won for scum anyway since I'd never vote them.
If TTTT is scum, the game is won for scum anyway, since I'd almost never vote him.
Since I know that I am town.

That literally gives me a 4/5 chance of picking right, assuming I had any shot at all of picking right.
If one of those three is scum, we deserve to lose anyway and they deserve to win.
So really what I would ask myself is.

"Who in Gamma Emerald, AnonymousGhost, Aster, RadiantCowbells, and Keyser Soze would be town?"
And that's the player not to vote; I could vote literally any of the others and be good.

And I am most comfortable.
Banking on Gamma not being the townie among those four.
So.

Here we are.
Either endgame us because I was wrong, or prove that we have a 1v1. (Which I know I can and will win.)

[mastina]

(I'd start proving why I am town now and writing a case for why Gamma is scum, but I'm not going to put that time/effort in until I know it's not a waste. Like I said. I have experience gamethrowing so I know the best way to throw the game is swiftly and immediately.)

[Blackjacks]

Interesting

[mastina]

Ehh fuckit.
I stand by what I said before that I'm not getting killed this game.

But.

That means I'll never get to use this in-context for the game.
Meaning I may as well post it.

I assumed I wouldn't die last night.
But on a whim, I started typing this about ten, fifteen minutes before night's deadline, as a just-in-case I was killed, once I verified via looking at the rules that nsg allows bah posts.



Not exactly looking so lovely as last night
No longer shining so bright
I was asked by four men if I wanted to dance
Not exactly romance, given half a chance
Dunno if they'd seen that dress I'm wearing
Or the highlights in my hair catching their eyes
I have been blind

The lady in red was me dancing, cheek to cheek
I thought nobody was here, but someone was with me
Not where I wanted to be
I hardly knew what was by my side
I'll never forget the outcome of tonight

I know I looked gorgeous as I did tonight
I know I shone so bright, I was amazing
I know so many people wanted to be by my side
I turned over lost my smile, bullet took my breath away
And I never had such a feeling
Such a feeling of complete and utter death, as I do tonight

The lady in red was me dancing, cheek to cheek
I thought nobody was here, but someone was with me
Not where I wanted to be
I hardly knew what was by my side
I'll never forget the outcome of tonight

I'll never forget the outcome of tonight
The lady in red, is me now dead
The lady in red, is me now dead

I love you

(Bah.)
<3



I typed that out, and finished just before nsg posted the Lolwagons flip. Pretty much the same minute.
I suppose I could fake this as scum, but I really don't have much reason to.

I'm at this point banking on me not being made a massive fucking fool out of via Gamma being literally the only town in my pool, thus, banking on this not being worthless, that yes I do in fact have a need to show I am town because I did in fact vote scum. I'm assuming that there is in fact purpose for putting this sort of thing forward, which I realize will make me all the more stupid-looking if wrong, but like I said. Fuckit, going with it anyway.

[mastina]

Interesting

You know the last time I quick-voted town in lylo as town.

This was pretty much what scum said to set up the quickhammer.

So I'm looking forward to the inevitable game over tomorrow.

But, dammit.

I am going to stick by my guns and see this through to the end no matter the cost.

I refuse to back down, even if the price is losing the game.

[Blackjacks]

INTERESTING

[mastina]

(For the record. Sticking to you being town. Just a bunch of reasons there. Did an iso, looked town. General flow of game, seems town. Whole analysis of situation suggests town. NKA suggests town. VCA suggests town. And even now, I'd call 1582 a town reaction for ~reasons~, which I won't go into unless it actually becomes pertinent to the game to do so. Butstill. DON'T BREAK MY HEART DAMMIT)

[mastina]

(Also for the record. I did a brief skim of Clemency's iso and similarly to Blackjack my townread there was reinforced. TTTT's slot it's tougher to tell and there I'm actually more nervous about because if any of my townreads are wrong it's that one, but overall this is where I am and fuckit I need three town right now because I need it to be a number nigh-impossible to hit town; 4/5 is a surefire scum hit, whereas 4/6 is slightly less likely. )

[mastina]

(Of course, long-term, only need to hit two scum and between Aster and AnonymousGhost as pretty lockscum, fairly good odds that I'd be able to get that tomorrow. It's just that...to lynch the second scum, you need to lynch the first. So that's what I'm mostly talking about right now.)

[Blackjacks]

I believe we should Lynch TTTT, or at least make him post something of substance

if I cared about this game I'd be yelling at you to unvote or something.

dead players mostly suggest {gamma, rc, t4}, ofrhz and I are both scumreading T4, and I think rc's case on pin was pretty bad.

it also occurs to me that if mastina (whose posts feel town to me, but I know she's a strong scum player so grain of salt) is scum with one of the scummier-looking players (rc and t4 fmpov rn), she could be forcing a 1v1 with the most widely scumread town player to draw attention away from them, but obviously this is biased by me being fairly unconvinced on scum.gamma, knowing he's lynchbait as town, and not being able to read him very well in general.

-r

[Blackjacks]

I assumed I wouldn't die last night.
But on a whim, I started typing this about ten, fifteen minutes before night's deadline, as a just-in-case I was killed, once I verified via looking at the rules that nsg allows bah posts.

... actually I kind of just processed this post

why wouldn't you just wait for the flip?

[Blackjacks]

although I suppose the lesson of this game is that it's expected for town players to lie to get townread so maybe the answer doesn't even matter

xd

[Blackjacks]

INTERESTING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shjIudejxO4&t=7m28s

[mastina]

why wouldn't you just wait for the flip?

It was done on a whim, a "sure why not" sort of thing. There wasn't a reason to not wait, I just didn't wait.

[mastina]

To put that in perspective.
I have reasons for voting Gamma Emerald.
Maybe shitty reasons, but I have them. I have a good reason for having, out of the gate, immediately, seconds after the day started, voting Gamma Emerald. Reasons I've partially but not fully laid out, though the parts not fully laid out are easily enough inferred.

I can explain there endlessly my reasoning for doing so, if need be.

I can do no such thing for why I wrote that, because it wasn't a planned thing.
I knew from the moment PP flipped town that if I lived, I'd be voting Gamma immediately. So there's reasons a plenty for it.
There's no reasons for the song.
It just.
Is what I decided to do.

[Clemency]

crikey

[RadiantCowbells]

Not sure how much I actually care about this game right now

[TTTT]

I'm really only interested in this game from the POV of watching four scum try to coordinate an instalynch
there are going to be so many shitty pointless posts as they jockey into position signaling to each other that they are here
this kinda looks like one though oops

[RadiantCowbells]

That does seem like one, yeah.

[RadiantCowbells]

Mastina can I ask you to unvote

[mastina]

Mastina can I ask you to unvote

You can, but I won't.
Rather.
The only way my vote leaves Gamma is if it goes on someone else.

I didn't get a chance to say this yesterday, but it is STUPIDLY self-evident that scum have been bussing.

I dare anyone to name a team that doesn't involve bussing. I mean, I guess you can maybe find a combination, but obviously it's just not probable; scum bussing is the obvious answer.

And given that.
You can correct flawed assumptions.

Will elaborate when home from work.

[RadiantCowbells]

who do you think the scumteam is?

[RadiantCowbells]

gamma nothing to say about mastina's vote on you?