Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[Creature]

Damn when someone doesn't pay attention to the game at all.

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

It's suboptimal to lynch a claim that's likely dying tonight anyway

I'm not sure I buy this logic. If BEF didn't die during the night, that wouldn't automatically incriminate him because of the existence of healer roles and roleblockers and scum playing mindgames. We'd be left in exactly the same situation tomorrow as we are today concerning BEF. Why should we not lynch him today?

Either he comes with a result tomorrow or he gets lynched.

[Suka]

UNVOTE:

If not Bright today, kmd?

[OkaPoka]

UNVOTE:

It's suboptimal to lynch a claim that's likely dying tonight anyway

I'm not sure I buy this logic. If BEF didn't die during the night, that wouldn't automatically incriminate him because of the existence of healer roles and roleblockers and scum playing mindgames. We'd be left in exactly the same situation tomorrow as we are today concerning BEF. Why should we not lynch him today?

Either he comes with a result tomorrow or he gets lynched.

or?

[OkaPoka]

like this is such a bad claim from bef (and def fake) but if he comes with a result tmr ur going to not lynch him? that makes no sense.

how does bef play match up with his 1-shot claim.

[Dannflor]

if he comes with a result tmr ur going to not lynch him? that makes no sense.

I agree with this. What if BEF's target dies? What if he's scum and just decides to confirm DDL as town in an attempt to prove his own innocence? What if he tries to clear his own partner? Not all of these are likely but there's enough things that could go wrong or that are uncertain that I don't think him surviving until tomorrow is gonna resolve his slot one way or another.

[Dannflor]

It's been a bad game for me all around and I feel its too late for me to get back on track and out from under this pressure.

I would like you to try. It would help your case a lot more than this appeal to emotion crap.

If anyone wants to follow dann, go ahead.

In the meantime I'll see if there is anything to learn from nero's flip

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Where is this analysis?

Right now your vote is still on me in what I can only call OMGUS. I'm not trying to shut down discussion as you say, and I certainly don't think I'm infallible. I don't understand why you're voting me other than it was the only place you could easily vote without incriminating yourself further.

[Dannflor]

Vote Bright

Reasons are in my ISO from Day 2.

Which post is this KMD?

[northsidegal]

VC 3.1

votes

[3] BrightEyedFish

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Dannflor 1832, Kmd4390 1836, OkaPoka 1865

[2] OkaPoka

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Creature 1889, Varsoon 1892

[1] Dannflor

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BrightEyedFish 1833

[4] Not Voting

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mbaki, DrDolittle, Suka 1927

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

The Day 3 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-01-16 02:37:59)

Mod Notes

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[Varsoon]

with the voyeur + traitor flips this is likely to be a game of little PR powers. does 1-shot neop make sense in this set up?

I think it's far less likely for single shot roles to exist in this game with the presence of voyeur, but I'm not about to spec 'cus mod WIFOM has screwed me in the past.

Regardless
Judge people based on their play rather than the contents of their claim.

[Dannflor]

also @KMD, what are your reads right now aside from BEF?

[Dannflor]

UNVOTE: BEF

I have stuff I want to say and do before the day is over, and while I don't think anyone is going to lolhammer, I'd rather avoid the risk since we already have the claim.

[Dannflor]

Oh it was at L-2 anyway. Either way, wanna slow down just a bit.

[Dannflor]

with the voyeur + traitor flips this is likely to be a game of little PR powers. does 1-shot neop make sense in this set up?

I think it's far less likely for single shot roles to exist in this game with the presence of voyeur, but I'm not about to spec 'cus mod WIFOM has screwed me in the past.

Regardless
Judge people based on their play rather than the contents of their claim.

You think BEF is town?

[Varsoon]

I'm iffy on it.
Haven't loved the slot, but I'd rather lynch elsewhere.

[Dannflor]

You were okay with his lynch D1. Why do you think Oka is scum?

[Dannflor]

I just want to understand what makes other lynches more appealing to you.

[Varsoon]

Not really much, I guess.
I just get worse vibes from Oka and DDL.
The way they are present and how they interact with the game
It bothers me
I can't really articulate it

[DrDolittle]

I dont see anything wrong with Creature's plan. We delay BEF lynch and lynch him tomorrow. If he is actually town, we get a clear or a NK. If not he's simply gone tomorrow.

Unless BEF is some kind of powerful scum PR, but relatively unlikely

[DrDolittle]

What if he's scum and just decides to confirm DDL as town in an attempt to prove his own innocence?

I thought you thought I was scum?

[OkaPoka]

the problem is bef is probably scum here cuz his claim is just bad and scummy so we are letting a free lynch slip through our fingers when we don't have to.

like ddl, remember last game where you claimed jk? if everyone had been scared like me to push that you most likely would have got away scot-free and probably ended up lynching mewtaph earlier. hindsight is 20/20 and I should have known your claim was bad (luckily rest of town was competent to save me here), so basically this game is my redemption arc.

like you would've been lynched eventually regardless b/c mew flip but still

[DrDolittle]

man what the fuck is going on with Nauci's vote count system?

[OkaPoka]

huh

[DrDolittle]

the problem is bef is probably scum here cuz his claim is just bad and scummy so we are letting a free lynch slip through our fingers when we don't have to.

like ddl, remember last game where you claimed jk? if everyone had been scared like me to push that you most likely would have got away scot-free and probably ended up lynching mewtaph earlier. hindsight is 20/20 and I should have known your claim was bad (luckily rest of town was competent to save me here), so basically this game is my redemption arc.

like you would've been lynched eventually regardless b/c mew flip but still

last game, the whole point of me claiming JK was to light up who the real jk was, because from scum information we know A50 was jailkept. I had no intention of surviving and was hoping for a counterclaim. Turns out Mew did not cc and I still got lynched

[OkaPoka]

I'm saying had the rest of town not played correctly there and followed me, you wouldn't have been lynched which would be the wrong play.

Right now, I'm seeing a sort of similar situation from the claim sides. Both were very bad claims, things don't match here. Except now I have the gift of experience to know that lynching BEF today is the right move. No need to let more mislynches get in our way because bef decided to claim a pr.