Well pair this with my above response. How? Naked votes, especially at daystart where I love to use them, are a perfect way of grabbing someone’s attention and often forcing them to engage. How is that necessarily scummy?In post 459, Robert2424 wrote:Naked votes are lack of effort and scummy.
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What has he done in the way of confronting others? He was very submissive to Enter’s early push, he acted the same towards me. He said he feels more comfortable/likes playing town better (can I interchange this with “confident?”), and he doesn’t seem very clmfortable/confident in this game.In post 473, skitter30 wrote:i still don't get scum!bef (even in his exchange with you right here he's pretty townie imo) and i don't get why this is coming back again reallyIn post 453, mcqueen wrote:Yeah because you’re scum and I thought you’d try to fake something.
Because BEF is scumIn post 474, skitter30 wrote:can we try to consolidate wagons please given that deadlines in like four days?
ie if you're sitting on a vanity wagon of 2 people or less can you explain why other people should join your wagon?
Remind me who else besides redtea you are interested in?In post 476, skitter30 wrote:i would probably vote bef at deadline over a no lynch but i don't really want to
not really interested in elbirn rn
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I'm willing to jump on Robert if needed but not really feeling elbirn. I'd also be willing to jump on Varsoon again. His posturing around the votelessness feels off-ish. Feels somewhat like scum saying "you're not allowed to suspect me now" so as to be allowed to coast through the early game for free. His reads list has a whole lot of "this is a person in the game and i have no strong/real opinions beyond this" to support that.
Ok thanks. I forgot there might be more mechanically to your role. I just thought you were some voteless townie which would make absolutely 0 sense why you’d ever use it.In post 480, Varsoon wrote:I went voteless because I wanted to.
I already told everyone why--asking me to share more is like trying to get blood from a stone.
Yeah, there might be more to what going voteless does for me mechanically, but if you keep digging, I'm going to think you're fishing rather than just questioning something odd.
We can hit majority easily enough without my vote. If it is a concern in the future, I'll be able to get my vote back, don't worry.
Idk, I thought about it a bit, and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a voteless scum member. It’s totally possible, but I lean town on Varsoon for now for that reason.
Yes.In post 483, BrightEyedFish wrote:And do you think I faked something?In post 453, mcqueen wrote:Yeah because you’re scum and I thought you’d try to fake something.
LolIn post 489, Varsoon wrote:Skitter, when motherfuckers are clearly rolefishing, it's not 'threatening a scumread' it's me being like, "There is no town reason to know this info. Stop."
If I need to be that blunt about it, then there you go.
The VCs had to be fixed though. I mean, sucky situation for him if he were to not try to out that he’s votelesss. Also sucks that part of his role was basically confirmed, too, but mistakes happenIn post 490, BrightEyedFish wrote:You announced that you were voteless unprovoked and that brings questions and suspicions from town and scum. If you chose not to announce we would have probably picked up on you being voteless from the VCs.In post 489, Varsoon wrote:Skitter, when motherfuckers are clearly rolefishing, it's not 'threatening a scumread' it's me being like, "There is no town reason to know this info. Stop."
If I need to be that blunt about it, then there you go.
So Your reaction to people questioning your claim comes across as unneeded AtE. At least that's the issue I'm having.
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I don't think it'sIn post 459, Robert2424 wrote:Naked votes are lack of effort and scummy.
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What do you think I faked?In post 506, mcqueen wrote:Yes.In post 483, BrightEyedFish wrote:And do you think I faked something?In post 453, mcqueen wrote:Yeah because you’re scum and I thought you’d try to fake something.
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He could have just said voteless, the fact he is soft claiming some PR is just as strange.In post 508, mcqueen wrote:The VCs had to be fixed though. I mean, sucky situation for him if he were to not try to out that he’s votelesss. Also sucks that part of his role was basically confirmed, too, but mistakes happenIn post 490, BrightEyedFish wrote:You announced that you were voteless unprovoked and that brings questions and suspicions from town and scum. If you chose not to announce we would have probably picked up on you being voteless from the VCs.In post 489, Varsoon wrote:Skitter, when motherfuckers are clearly rolefishing, it's not 'threatening a scumread' it's me being like, "There is no town reason to know this info. Stop."
If I need to be that blunt about it, then there you go.
So Your reaction to people questioning your claim comes across as unneeded AtE. At least that's the issue I'm having.
I don't see this coming from town, more like coming from a scum looking for town cred.
The no response. Go skim your Overkill 2 ISO. That’s what I did. You were town there, and much more confrontational. Here, while you’ve replied, it feels like you do so begrudingly.In post 511, BrightEyedFish wrote:What do you think I faked?In post 506, mcqueen wrote:Yes.In post 483, BrightEyedFish wrote:And do you think I faked something?In post 453, mcqueen wrote:Yeah because you’re scum and I thought you’d try to fake something.
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I wasn't worried about Enter’s push because I didn't feel he truly SR me at that time.In post 501, mcqueen wrote: What has he done in the way of confronting others? He was very submissive to Enter’s early push, he acted the same towards me. He said he feels more comfortable/likes playing town better (can I interchange this with “confident?”), and he doesn’t seem very clmfortable/confident in this game.
I don't have any fully confident reads right now. I SRing El and Var right now but those reads are mainly gut reads and that's where my head is at right now.
I also don't have any lock TRs.
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I am addressing Elbirn and Varsoon. Or at least I'm putting my thoughts on them out there. I'm assuming regardless of their alignment they are against what I am saying but that doesn't mean others can't react/comment on my reads.In post 517, mcqueen wrote:Why not be proactive and address people yourself? Instead of waiting for someone to address you
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I think the exchange between Varsoon and Elbirn were superficial and playful with the hint of an inside joke. Also comparing that with Minh's comments and his interaction with Varsoon, I sense a connection there.In post 519, redtea wrote:@BEF Varsoon/Elbirn is too obvious. Do they like to play with fire? Do you think they've slipped already?
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Like I said, feels too obvious, so I wonder. Will have to come back to it when I finish going through Varsoon. Didn't notice the small maybe-connection with Minh.
Elbirn's implosion read is a little surprising to throw out there. Don't know if that improves his standing in my eyes, means he's good at scum, or the two are buddies. Roll a die with 2/3/1 chances.
Elbirn's implosion read is a little surprising to throw out there. Don't know if that improves his standing in my eyes, means he's good at scum, or the two are buddies. Roll a die with 2/3/1 chances.
Yeah it's not like the VCs had to be retroactively redacted or that I used it as a gambit or that I adhere to a philosophy that negative utility should be claimedIn post 490, BrightEyedFish wrote:You announced that you were voteless unprovoked and that brings questions and suspicions from town and scum. If you chose not to announce we would have probably picked up on you being voteless from the VCs.In post 489, Varsoon wrote:Skitter, when motherfuckers are clearly rolefishing, it's not 'threatening a scumread' it's me being like, "There is no town reason to know this info. Stop."
If I need to be that blunt about it, then there you go.
So Your reaction to people questioning your claim comes across as unneeded AtE. At least that's the issue I'm having.
Yeah fuck me for trying to be transparent about my shit that makes me weaker
Also fuck me for joking with an old friend who I've played tons of games with on site, I guess
I think you're hard-bitter given the earlier push I had on you and that I accused you of not reading. Get over it.
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You're push on me did cause me to look deeper and be more analytical about your posts but this is what I found on my search.In post 523, Varsoon wrote: I think you're hard-bitter given the earlier push I had on you and that I accused you of not reading. Get over it.
You might say I'm bitter but I'd say it made me more Motivated.