Mini 2056: Ballroom Blitz (Game Over)


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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:15 pm

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Day 1, Dance: Duel!
A duel has been declared!

TheGoldenParadox
has
rejected
AP
's offer to partner up!
All votes not for
TheGoldenParadox
,
AP
, or
No Lynch
have been reset.
All pending dance offers are null-and-void.
Players may no longer make dance offers.
Votecount 1-7 (07)
AP - 2 (Aronis, TheGoldenParadox)

TheGoldenParadox - 1 (Vedith)


Not Voting - 10 (NicoRobin, Kokichi Oma, AP, redtea, LabRat01, Darkwing Duck, Eragon, Moment, mcqueen, EeveeLution Army)

13
alive;
7
to lynch.
Deadline: Sunday, February 3rd, @ 6:45 pm PST: (expired on 2019-02-03 22:44:33).

modnotes
  • A duel has been declared. All pending dance offers are null-and-void.
  • NicoRobin failed to pick up her prod; she will be replaced.
  • Moment has been prodded. They have this long to post game content: (expired on 2019-02-02 23:11:01).
  • Kokichi Oma has been prodded. He has this long to post game content: (expired on 2019-02-02 23:11:01).
  • redtea has been prodded. They have this long to post game content: (expired on 2019-02-03 10:44:35).
Last edited by mastina on Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:17 pm

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In post 289, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 288, TheGoldenParadox wrote:Okay, great. I can't understand what's going on in the game right now. The posts are barely readable. That being said, I went through Lab's ISO, and all of it strikes me as someone who isn't really doing anything to help the gamestate, but trying very hard to look like he is. I'll make a case in a bit, but for now VOTE: LabRat01.
I don't see anybody trying to develop a consensus on the dance mechanic, but people should be dancing as much as possible. We need those PTs.

You must have missed the part about people bbecoming lovers
In post 297, LabRat01 wrote:and a case w0uId be great
thx
In post 302, LabRat01 wrote:
In post 288, TheGoldenParadox wrote:I don't see anybody trying to develop a consensus on the dance mechanic, but people should be dancing as much as possible. We need those PTs.
btw, PTs w0n't even exist f0r I0ng cuz I0vers die t0gether and there are n0 pr0tectives in the game
s0 tbh if y0u want an usefuI pt, y0u have t0 pick scum

I d0n't think I ever gave my 0pini0n 0n the SR+TR dance idea, cuz pers0naIIy I'm n0t sure what's the IikeIyh00d 0f it backfiring instead 0f heIping t0wn, but I just wanted t0 say that if any0ne wh0 cares ab0ut it wants t0 get a dance, they sh0uId start discussing it n0w 0r the day might end with0ut anyting happening
In post 305, Vedith wrote:
In post 288, TheGoldenParadox wrote:Okay, great. I can't understand what's going on in the game right now. The posts are barely readable. That being said, I went through Lab's ISO, and all of it strikes me as someone who isn't really doing anything to help the gamestate, but trying very hard to look like he is. I'll make a case in a bit, but for now VOTE: LabRat01.
I don't see anybody trying to develop a consensus on the dance mechanic, but people should be dancing as much as possible. We need those PTs.
This probably needs lynching today.
In post 324, Vedith wrote:You should vote with me regardless.
Their vote and post was terrible and nothing they have done or said has even slightly impressed me.

They might mind blow me of the case the will be doing, but I really doubt it will if it will even happen.

Also I will be offering a dance soon. I'm only going to offer to people who actually post. If anyone has a preference to pair up with me then let me know.
My favoured right now to pair up with is DuckDuck and only because I feel that me and LabRat may mis understand each other in the PT.
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:17 pm

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umm accidental quoting lol
the lolz was cause the mod stole my pagetop
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:20 pm

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To respond to vedith - I'm not sure how my vote and post was terrible outside of you chainsaw defending Lab. Clearly the second I voted lab you jumped on me and scumread it while he townread it, so i'm visualizing a possibility of a lab/ved/? scumteam - it makes sense as they did seem to spam up the thread together and vedith seems to be hard attacking me for a vote.
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:24 pm

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Hmm, conflict, my better half thinks we should lynch AP here but I'm personally leaning TGP

but a third part of me, my lower intestines specifically, believe that we are mislynching either way

I will have to eat on this
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:27 pm

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Hmm, my better half strongly feels in AP's death.

Let's

Get

Dangerous

VOTE: AP
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:33 pm

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<<< Moment has failed to pick up their prod, and thus, will be replaced. Seeking a replacement now. >>>
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:34 pm

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<<< Kokichi Oma has failed to pick up his prod, and thus, will be replaced. Seeking a replacement now. >>>
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:39 pm

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Goodness, forgot this was a Blitz. 21 hours left?
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:47 pm

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In post 372, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
Reject Dance

VOTE: AP
Thank you.

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

Also, if TGP flips red at
any point of the game
Aronis should go next. Aronis opting to vote me
NOW
over "what has been there for ages" and
before seeing if TGP will accept or reject
my offer = he's probably informed of TGP's decision beforehand and wants to be on my wagon early.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:47 pm

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What makes you think Aronis' timing was strategic rather than real-life based? It seemed he had something going on with his debate tournament. What would it matter whether he votes you before TGP rejected the offer or not?
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:51 pm

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In post 364, EeveeLution Army wrote:Why golden over really anyone else?
Since you put it this way, why the hell not? What does TGP have over "anyone"?

P-Edit: Because
HE VOTED ME BEFORE WAITING TO SEE IF TGP ACCEPTS OR NOT
. Are you reading?

What matters is he won't lynch his own buddy. If he thought TGP isn't worth lynching why jump the wagon, just in case TGP does accept?

In fact, Aronis' vote is scummy regardless, so I have been
kind
to call him scum
if
TGP is scum, when I should have said he is scum. Period.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:52 pm

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<<< Slaxx replaces NicoRobin effective upon posting. >>>
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:53 pm

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In post 356, Vedith wrote:You seem more angry that I want to vote GoldenParadox.
Yes. That's why I've just forced a duel between myself and him, Einstein.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:53 pm

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Oh god okay I walked in to action apparently

Give me a second
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:54 pm

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Right off the bat #379 and #380 are gross but I should probably start from the beginning
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:57 pm

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At first glance, I'm not sure I'm particularly happy with either of these options.

As scum, the best position to potentially gladiate someone in is if you have confidence that you can win. The argument could be made that AP chose an easy mislynch target in TGP, but I'm not certain if AP was townread enough to confidently win that. Of course, what matters is whether or not AP
believes
that he could win or not. I'm not sure if that's the case.
In post 348, AP wrote:FTR: There are currently FIVE players who have posted less than me so far. I don't even get why Nico isn't included in your "could lynch this", but whatever. What's done is done.
This is also something I feel as if I should be able to glean motivation from.

I do feel as though this position, as AP has worded it, is more likely to come from scum than town. In the world where AP is scum and Nico is town, this could very easily be AP frustrated at being scumread when he believes he deserves to be townread for his post count as compared to someone being townread who has posted less than him. My expectation for how town would act in this scenario would be to act more questioning as to the reasons behind why NicoRobin is not considered as a potential lynch. That being said, being frustrated in this manner could still come from town.

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In post 386, AP wrote:
In post 364, EeveeLution Army wrote:Why golden over really anyone else?
Since you put it this way, why the hell not? What does TGP have over "anyone"?

P-Edit: Because
HE VOTED ME BEFORE WAITING TO SEE IF TGP ACCEPTS OR NOT
. Are you reading?

What matters is he won't lynch his own buddy. If he thought TGP isn't worth lynching why jump the wagon, just in case TGP does accept?

In fact, Aronis' vote is scummy regardless, so I have been
kind
to call him scum
if
TGP is scum, when I should have said he is scum. Period.
Yes, I noticed that Aronis voted you before seeing if TGP accepted or not. I don't understand the relevance. Does doing this offer some kind of benefit to scum that I'm not seeing?

Did Aronis state that he doesn't believe TGP is worth lynching? It could simple be that he scumreads you more than TGP.

I don't understand your emotional reaction.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:58 pm

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Oops, I answered someone else's questions.
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:00 pm

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Well what does that leave you to conclude moment? Do you want to do a d1 no lynch?
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:06 pm

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In post 393, Darkwing Duck wrote:Well what does that leave you to conclude moment? Do you want to do a d1 no lynch?
NO! I demand that we get a lynch through. I don't care if it's turns out to be me, but a lynch under these circumstances will be most beneficial for the town.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:07 pm

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OK

VOTE: TGP

I'm like 65% sure this is T/T tho rn
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:08 pm

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Crap
Catching up right now.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:09 pm

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Something interesting to note: TGP keeps accidentally leaving multiquotes in his posts, and yet he never seems to actually make any posts with intentional use of the multiquote feature.

Perhaps he's quoting posts into a private thread? Realistically, probably not.

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In post 288, TheGoldenParadox wrote:Okay, great. I can't understand what's going on in the game right now. The posts are barely readable. That being said, I went through Lab's ISO, and all of it strikes me as someone who isn't really doing anything to help the gamestate, but trying very hard to look like he is. I'll make a case in a bit, but for now VOTE: LabRat01.
I don't see anybody trying to develop a consensus on the dance mechanic, but people should be dancing as much as possible. We need those PTs.
I do think town is more likely than scum to be frustrated with an "unreadable" game thread, or with various spam. I would imagine that scum confronted with the same problem would simply find the easiest thing they could sheep and put little effort into actually attempting to read the thread. A frustration with an unreadable thread does show an actual desire to
read the thread
in the first place, which I believe is town-indicative.

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In post 372, TheGoldenParadox wrote:LabRat to me is looking like she's playing with antitown motivation. As scum, the point in this game is to lynch any townie - it doesn't matter who. I see her "working hard", and her posts are good. But there's no town motivation in them. She doesn't seem like she's trying to scumhunt - she seems like "hey, look, I'm town!" by posting a ton of content, maybe, but look at her posts. The intent of those posts is not to scumhunt. The intent of those posts is not to help town find scum, because in that bod of posts, there is a air of knowing, being informed, of whom town is. That's the vibe I'm getting. But none of this matters NOW, for the simple reason that...
AP offered to dance with me, and RIGHT NOW I hate that. So... no. I can't see the town motivation in that. That is blind sheeping. No.
Reject Dance

VOTE: AP
I don't feel like much thought was placed into the rejection of the dance offer here, which does make me consider it scum-indicative.

Even if you consider that someone offering to dance with you is scum, it is still the case that if you pair with them you will become lovers with them. If you believe your lynch is imminent, pairing with someone whom you believe to be scum is actually your best course of action. If you reject the offer and lose the gladiate, it's the worst possible outcome: you get lynched and your scumread lives. Even further, pairing with someone who is scum will presumably mean that, as long as you aren't lynched, you will never be killed during the night. Given that, I think "this dance offer was scummy and so I'm going to reject it" is an oversimplified thought process.

@TGP
, I would appreciate if you could go a little more in-depth as to your thought process when it came to rejecting the dance offer. As it stands, it doesn't seem to me like you put much thought into it at all.

This is a large point of contention that I'd like resolved before deciding where to vote.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:12 pm

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In post 393, Darkwing Duck wrote:Well what does that leave you to conclude moment? Do you want to do a d1 no lynch?
Not at all. Any lynch in this situation — and in most situations in general — is better than no-lynch.

It's not inherently a problem to lynch town Day 1 such that no-lynching would be preferable. Finding very high information Day 1 lynches is how you go on to win the game afterwards.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:13 pm

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In post 345, Darkwing Duck wrote:Hmm that's a little townie from ap in tone

But now we get the spicy part where tgp accepts or refuses

Finally the game is interesting lol
In post 380, Darkwing Duck wrote:Hmm, my better half strongly feels in AP's death.

Let's

Get

Dangerous

VOTE: AP
@DD what happened in between these to make you change your mind?
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