Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[DoubtingThomas]

did i call you scum? i didn't make any commentary on your alignment.

I mean, what you described in 4232 isn't something that I (or most people) would ever do as scum, so you implied it. If you don't think I'm scum, then that's good, but don't assume that I might be town and still have an ulterior motive beyond what's stated, because I don't like to manipulate people for no reason.

SS, do you have a coherent list of where everyone stands?

I kinda feel like I should wait for the PT to answer this, no? That's exactly what we should be using it for...

We can't wait for PT, sure.

I am just a pretty transparent person so I tend to sometimes go overboard and explain/talk about my reads out loud in the thread. sometimes to help my ownself understand what I am exactly thinking about. If you want to wait for PT, we can.

I also fear, however, that I might accidentally out a lot of the information in the real thread about things we discussed? so you might want to make it clear to me on what you don't want me to talk about tho

i also think when we are pushing scums/explain our town reads, the stuff i am asking you right now ought to be spoiled in the main thread

we can*

not we can't. typo

[DoubtingThomas]

just as an example, my last two times playing with RC before this game were

a. correctly locktowning him within 10-20 pages
b. not having really any read of him in the time he was in the game; his successor was a townread until the slot was confscummed though

I assume b is Lynch the Wolves

pvt asked you out. you dont want to comment on it?

i also think pvt just popping in to ask then popping out is nagl

[Gamma Emerald]

I addressed it DT.

[DoubtingThomas]

Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead

even when he's a wolf? :doge:

[DoubtingThomas]

Formal dance invitation to teh Gamma

Acknowledging I have seen this. Want to talk a little first though. Pvt, I'm already town reading you (though the read was formed a while a go so it could go with review), so I want to hear some thoughts from you about reads and/or the gamestate.
Btw I did some background checking and Allo does post in the early morning (my time), which means he could respond in time. But I would rather stay up late than get up early so Urist is looking like my choice.

oh nvm

[Something_Smart]

I think that if you truly have no ulterior motives than you're a wolf. There's a middle ground where you don't realize what you're doing, but you're doing a thing.

I mean, what I might be doing is accidentally misinterpreting how confident you are. (If that's the case, I feel like you're misrepresenting it, because a near-100% chance of winning-- even if it's something like 90%-- is still really good to bet the game on.)

I have no intention of calling you scum purely for refusing. Of course, mathematically, if there's any chance you'd agree as town (and there is, probably not more than 10% imo), then your odds of being scum rise slightly, but not significantly. If you feel bullied, it's probably because you've been in a similar situation where you actually have been bullied. This offer is actually a huge compliment. I wouldn't suggest it to someone whose skill at townreading I didn't have a ton of respect for.

[DoubtingThomas]

RC, don't tell me you are going to thunderdome Something_Smart this game

[Something_Smart]

He's not.

[DoubtingThomas]

Also, Ss, let's drop it for now and wait for after pre-dance

[Pink Ball]

Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead

even when he's a wolf? :doge:

When he's a wolf you can't just go and say "we will trust RC's reads after he flips", what's the point of playing with a good player if you won't try to improve to get on his level. So yes, if he's wolf, you git gud and lynch him without a shitty excuse for lynching him. Fair and square. I read the last iteration of Red Flag (NSG modding) and the first scum I caught was RC. It's not impossible, so if you're so afraid of playing with scum!RC, don't play with RC at all.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah Urist is gone for now
I think I'll accept but my question still stands and I'm gonna have to inquire into the circumstances of that request as well.

I accept Urist's dance request

[Ankamius]

I think we move to first dance once FakeGod sees now

we'll see

[Nancy Drew 39]

why would I ever

want to lynch myself when i don't need to lynch myself

Well, I definitely won't sheep you while you're alive. I don't know about anyone else.

I’m honestly perplexed by this. You either agree with RC’s reads or you don’t. How does him being dead, have jack to do with anything?

because he wants to bully town me into letting myself get lynched whenever he wants so that he can tell that I'm scum when I refuse

I couldn’t read you in DnD mafia but you’re pretty obvtown here, like in TOL. Even Ank thinks so and she was like the hardest sell in the entire game, so if I’m mindmelding with Ank on you, then who really cares what SS thinks right?

[Pink Ball]

So Allomancer is left out. Could someone talented enough write a por about him?

Pretty happy with the pairings, we got this in the bag guys

[DoubtingThomas]

Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead

even when he's a wolf? :doge:

When he's a wolf you can't just go and say "we will trust RC's reads after he flips", what's the point of playing with a good player if you won't try to improve to get on his level. So yes, if he's wolf, you git gud and lynch him without a shitty excuse for lynching him. Fair and square. I read the last iteration of Red Flag (NSG modding) and the first scum I caught was RC. It's not impossible, so if you're so afraid of playing with scum!RC, don't play with RC at all.

I've never played with scum!Rc yet, but have more or less correctly town read him in most situations despite being in thunderdome (lynched him when his lynch was basically set and nobody wanted to post until lynch happened)

don't give me this shit please

[Pink Ball]

A poem* shitty phone

[Nancy Drew 39]

Saying that his reads are right if he's town is giving him a huge burden. Like, if he's wrong after someone flips, you go and lynch him for being wrong and if he flips town, you go and say "oh ok justified because his read on bleh was wrong".

Either you get your own reads and see if RC's reads are close to yours, or just wait to get a better read on him. But using that level or BoP is unfair. RC is good, but not Pink Ball good

MBoS is an obvious exception, right?

[Gamma Emerald]

A poem* shitty phone

Ah. Maybe, I did manage to rhyme for most of when I was in Any Rapper UPick

[Ankamius]

So Allomancer is left out. Could someone talented enough write a por about him?

Pretty happy with the pairings, we got this in the bag guys

I can try but I'm not going to be rhyming it or anything

[Pink Ball]

Point is, RC is more valuable alive than dead

even when he's a wolf? :doge:

When he's a wolf you can't just go and say "we will trust RC's reads after he flips", what's the point of playing with a good player if you won't try to improve to get on his level. So yes, if he's wolf, you git gud and lynch him without a shitty excuse for lynching him. Fair and square. I read the last iteration of Red Flag (NSG modding) and the first scum I caught was RC. It's not impossible, so if you're so afraid of playing with scum!RC, don't play with RC at all.

I've never played with scum!Rc yet, but have more or less correctly town read him in most situations despite being in thunderdome (lynched him when his lynch was basically set and nobody wanted to post until lynch happened)

don't give me this shit please

Oh I wasn't saying that to you, it was a generality. Was my two cents about RC since Someone Sharted said he would follow RC's reads after he flips

[DoubtingThomas]

how do i use mafia sepid? or mafia silver

[Gamma Emerald]

how do i use mafia sepid? or mafia silver

Go into User Control Panel > User Preferences > there should be a thing that says theme and a selection menu

[Pink Ball]

Saying that his reads are right if he's town is giving him a huge burden. Like, if he's wrong after someone flips, you go and lynch him for being wrong and if he flips town, you go and say "oh ok justified because his read on bleh was wrong".

Either you get your own reads and see if RC's reads are close to yours, or just wait to get a better read on him. But using that level or BoP is unfair. RC is good, but not Pink Ball good

MBoS is an obvious exception, right?

That's in the past. I have trascended into a god of mafia since then

[Something_Smart]

who really cares what SS thinks right?

Not going to say it's not justified here, but this mentality has cost town many games.

[Gamma Emerald]

Board preferences not user preferences
Sorry, went from memory