Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Oh, huh.

I think I had a dream that Nancy was scum in the first one iirc? That is surreal to think about

I was. It was surreal that I rolled scum twice in the exact same game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Gg scum. Well done poker facing the double wolf rand, Nancy.

Thanks, I knew as soon as people read the first scum PT, my towncred was permanently shot into oblivion anyway, so I thought I might as well make the most of it.

[Krazy]

Anyway, well played Nancy and Gamma.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I would say to get rid of the coins one way or the other, still, personally.

+1

Or maybe give everyone the same amount.

Yeah, I liked the scum IC reveal but it was too much time pressure and certain players just couldn’t keep up.with the frenzied pace of immediately jumping in to an 8 day second dance.

[Pink Ball]

DANNIEL MURIEL FLORENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE PAIRED WITH YOUR TRUE LOVE. LOSING THE GAME IS KARMA HITTING YOU IN THE FACE, WITH A CAR, AT FULL SPEED, DRIVEN BY AN ELEPHANT WHO SITS IN YOUR FACE AFTER HITTING YOU WITH HIS CAR, AND IT'S A HUGE CAR 'CAUSE IT HAS TO BE FOR THE ELEPHANT TO DRIVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. But I digress. YOU UNFAITHFUL BASTARD

[Nancy Drew 39]

Anyway, well played Nancy and Gamma.

Thanks and don’t forget DT. If it wasn’t for his brilliant WIFOM about Brie, we would never have been able to get that slot lynched or at least it contributed greatly.

[Pink Ball]

@nancy I townread you before the replace out thing and kept townreading you after that. I was defending you from Fire at the begining because your game was very similar to your towngames, much more than in the first versiom where I correctly scumread you. We're still sisters right? You could be the evil twin, like in Wicked. We should sing defying gravity

[Nancy Drew 39]

Is there ever going to be an explanation for the reason of the cancellation of the first run?

There were suspicions of someone replacing out and attempt to replace back in under a different account, and someone playing under two different accounts.

Kison reported negative after investigation, thank goodness.

Oh wow, I had no idea.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@nancy I townread you before the replace out thing and kept townreading you after that. I was defending you from Fire at the begining because your game was very similar to your towngames, much more than in the first versiom where I correctly scumread you. We're still sisters right? You could be the evil twin, like in Wicked. We should sing defying gravity

<3 <3 <3.

Spoiler:

Besties before testies, forevah: BBTFs.

We need a hydra name. I propose, “wrecking ball”.

[Nancy Drew 39]

neither is hey i blame this loss on the person who had the least ability to influence it

I was not actually being serious in that moment and I also did not think Nancy was scum about to hammer, it's not like I actually blame you for this loss.

Why did you self-vote though? You had to know SOMEONE was scum, even if not me.

That’s how we won MU SB game. Town placed a couple of votes on a particular player and the scumteam voted rapidly in suscession.

Never ever self-vote as a joke.

[Nancy Drew 39]

let the record show that my 3 picks for scum following pvturists townflip were 3/3 of the scumteam.

I'm impressed

damn I wish I'd focused on sorting Nancy more especially in our PT

I basically assumed she was town all game long without thinking critically about it until the end

Maybe it wouldn't have mattered but I feel like I kinda failed by not trying/focusing on that more :/

How would you have sorted me though? Anyone who reads our PT and didn’t know my alignment, would have read me as obvtown.

[Nancy Drew 39]

And maybe someday I'll catch Nancy and be listened to >_>

Guys chill

The gamestate was heavily stacked against town going into the second dance and tbh this is roughly what RC and I both predicted as soon as we saw the Urist IC

One thing nobody caught that stood out to me was Gamma suddenly becoming much more active and posting wildly different reads than everybody else, despite the fact that her loudest critic (me) was dead, her partner was suddenly proven town, and town were already pretty split in the beginning of the second dance. This immediately made me think that Urist was given the IC to give scum-Gamma the room to sow as much discord into the game as possible with a shield to protect what otherwise would have been scum in one of the sketchiest pairings.

Plus, if Gamma gets lynched first, that scumflip is reasonable evidence that the other two scum are probably in a fairly good spot, since if the scum weren't doing very well, then I suspect there would have been a lot more pushing on breaking up the townblock that was forming throughout first dance.

Protecting Gamma was just a bonus. The real reason we did it was to get Dann obvtownread and everyone reacted just like I predicted they would.

[Dannflor]

@Nancy, I'm mostly just mad at myself because I think I could have played a lot better in a lot of ways. After the Brie/Moment flip, the instant I realized there was a deep wolf is when I was most conflicted about you. I briefly considered how your read on me seemed a little unnatural, I'd also thought your hesitation on Brie/Moment seemed a little weird given the gamestate. However, I didn't reflect on the things that bothered me enough when I should have. There was also a lot of other things I did wrong, but whatever. I can take this as a learning experience. wp

DANNIEL MURIEL FLORENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE PAIRED WITH YOUR TRUE LOVE. LOSING THE GAME IS KARMA HITTING YOU IN THE FACE, WITH A CAR, AT FULL SPEED, DRIVEN BY AN ELEPHANT WHO SITS IN YOUR FACE AFTER HITTING YOU WITH HIS CAR, AND IT'S A HUGE CAR 'CAUSE IT HAS TO BE FOR THE ELEPHANT TO DRIVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. But I digress. YOU UNFAITHFUL BASTARD

I KNOW I FUCKING KNOW

I BLEW IT

I BLEW THE GAME I BLEW MY CHANCE AT TRUE LOVE

PB I never stopped loving you I hope you know that

my heart is forever broken

[Dannflor]

DANNIEL MURIEL FLORENT

also kinda hot when you call me by my full name js

[the worst]

It took my breath away and I'm just a bystander.

[Nancy Drew 39]

No I couldn't.
I literally lost the motivation to play this game.

And you guys probably would have lynched my pair anyways.

You were probably the fourth most townread pairing when you both left. You killed the chances to lynch DT by accepting a pairing before we had sorted the plan for Dance 1, which would have given us an extra week to discuss that flip, and also made it impossible for town to agree on a coherent strategy for dance 1 pairings. Like if you want to play the blame game I'm more than happy to oblige.

I don't understand why you think I don't respect you as a player? I think you pairing as the top coin lady and then goading your partner into leaving the dance is pretty demoralizing. I went into this setup thinking it was scumsided and the game became unenjoyable for a while when my endgame pairings became compromised with a threatened obvious T/T leaving. I spent like days doing damage control with an entire town that constantly insisted my play was scummy.

@Krazy I >3. I’m really glad I didn’t have to push you. That’s why we had to kill Ank/RC because I knew I never could have convingly pushed either of them. I also knew I couldn’t push Taly. Initially we thought of killing you/Taly when there was still a decent chance of “anklebells” imploding.

[Nancy Drew 39]

let the record show that my 3 picks for scum following pvturists townflip were 3/3 of the scumteam.

How did that make you suspect me?

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyway, well played Nancy and Gamma.

Yeah thanks man. It's good to get a compliment like this and I feel like I managed to compensate for my screwing up the win in 2041.

[Gamma Emerald]

And btw I totally felt like pairing with you would have been hard mode for me but absolutely worth it if I could pocket you within the PT

[Krazy]

@Nancy, I didn't self-vote as a joke, I self-voted because I didn't really see how I would ever end up convincing myself that it was you over either Taly or Dann. The people who I knew had the most familiarity with your scum game either townread your slot, backpedaled their scumread of your slot, etc. etc. I had suspected you might have been scum in the first run, and I thought that you had more manageable scum tells since I thought I *maybe* had a toneread on you there. I had just read Taly's flawless scum win and I thought her scum range might be wider than expected, and I had no games from Dann that looked really anything like this. Everyone I was counting on to help me solve the game insisted that you were the strongest, least scummy link in the entire townblock, and frankly I agreed. I really thought Taly might be trying to manipulate me with the "why shouldn't I leave the dance" argument and Dann's posts had me paranoid the entire game. Either you were town, or you had already won and I would just be dragging it out.

The only joke in that post was blaming RC, and that was only because Brian Skies had made such a deliberately obnoxious post about trusting RC at the end of Halloween's Ball. But now that I know he was deliberately giving political reads just to survive intermission I'm actually a little pissed.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Nancy, I'm mostly just mad at myself because I think I could have played a lot better in a lot of ways. After the Brie/Moment flip, the instant I realized there was a deep wolf is when I was most conflicted about you. I briefly considered how your read on me seemed a little unnatural, I'd also thought your hesitation on Brie/Moment seemed a little weird given the gamestate. However, I didn't reflect on the things that bothered me enough when I should have. There was also a lot of other things I did wrong, but whatever. I can take this as a learning experience. wp

DANNIEL MURIEL FLORENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE PAIRED WITH YOUR TRUE LOVE. LOSING THE GAME IS KARMA HITTING YOU IN THE FACE, WITH A CAR, AT FULL SPEED, DRIVEN BY AN ELEPHANT WHO SITS IN YOUR FACE AFTER HITTING YOU WITH HIS CAR, AND IT'S A HUGE CAR 'CAUSE IT HAS TO BE FOR THE ELEPHANT TO DRIVE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. But I digress. YOU UNFAITHFUL BASTARD

I KNOW I FUCKING KNOW

I BLEW IT

I BLEW THE GAME I BLEW MY CHANCE AT TRUE LOVE

PB I never stopped loving you I hope you know that

my heart is forever broken

In what way was my read on you unnatural? Actually, it’s perfectly within my town meta to that. And in a game where we wouldn’t have been under such massive time pressure, there’s a decent I would have probably held up the game as town, because I hate to mislynch.

[Krazy]

And btw I totally felt like pairing with you would have been hard mode for me but absolutely worth it if I could pocket you within the PT

I mostly didn't want to pair with you because we already talk every day on discord and I was super worried I would perspective slip, which is basically the same reason I didn't want to talk with Nancy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Perspective slip what??? You were town.

[Krazy]

Perspective slip what??? You were town.

I just thought it would make the game less stressful, lol. Anyway Taly seemed like a fun person to share a PT with and he is.

[Nancy Drew 39]

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

I thought a couple times "wow it's kinda weird Nancy hasn't been paranoid about me at all since we paired"

but that was the extent of any pingage

well played

fuck

I shoulda played better

Okay, now I get it.