Open 753: Nomination Mafia [Game Over!]

[RadiantCowbells]

i think your approach of the game is really weird. like hoping that a strong player A and strong player B agrees on each other being town so you can sheep them? uhm

You'd have been a better player in princess bride if you sheeped my reads as a good player instead of the shitter Wolfy's

[DoubtingThomas]

You can feel it’s weird but if it’s effective *shrug*

feel like iwould be bored of playing mafia if all i do is try to sheep others' thoughts. tbh. no offense or anything.

[RadiantCowbells]

You can feel it’s weird but if it’s effective *shrug*

feel like iwould be bored of playing mafia if all i do is try to sheep others' thoughts. tbh. no offense or anything.

This is a bad attitude to take

[DoubtingThomas]

i think your approach of the game is really weird. like hoping that a strong player A and strong player B agrees on each other being town so you can sheep them? uhm

You'd have been a better player in princess bride if you sheeped my reads as a good player instead of the shitter Wolfy's

I didn't really sheep wolfy over you. You were wrong on phighter which made me doubt independently + by that point, I didn't have the wim/effort to re-read everything and try to solve the game, especially with how scummily kitty played and (it wuld suck to lose but) was okay risking to lose if i sheep IC wolfy which also was an independent decision

[DoubtingThomas]

You can feel it’s weird but if it’s effective *shrug*

feel like iwould be bored of playing mafia if all i do is try to sheep others' thoughts. tbh. no offense or anything.

This is a bad attitude to take

believe me, this is me having a much better attitude than before after taking amrock's lessons to heart

[Irrelephant11]

Yes explain a Shoshin read more

I feel like DT has cut off too many relationships this game to be scum, like as scum why does he want me/RC/you/Shoshin annoyed with him

Pedit: my whole post is to Auro

[RadiantCowbells]

I was wrong on phighter who was scum mvp sue me

[DoubtingThomas]

I don't see the universal clemency scum read. i kinda liked his carefree tone when dealing with RC, but i do have a natural favoritism for that kinda tone.

didn't think his jump on RC wagon was that opportunistic, at least not to warrant a universal scum read

[Shoshin]

Another player who made enemies more easily than friends. He and Shoshin 1v1’d as T/T

I don't 1v1. In that game, I said Gustavo was locktown. He just death tunneled me for no reason while I kept saying he was town.

[RadiantCowbells]

If he's town this game is still far better off with him gone that is the shittiest iso I think I have ever seen

[DoubtingThomas]

his iso is not impressive, but my scum read on shoshin is pretty strong

[Auro]

>Bad push on Irre's excitement and refusal to answer my questions asking why
>Refusal to explain stances
>"I'm not scum, I'm disappointed in you"
>"If you want to push my lynch I'll push a lynch on you"
>"It's absurd you think I'm scum"

Also:

When I beat you as scum, RC, I'm going to be so town that you're going to be telling everyone never to lynch me as I lead your mislynch.

I get the feeling she's deliberately not putting in effort to look towny from this quote, and for some reason thinks that should get her townread?

[Shoshin]

I feel like DT has cut off too many relationships this game to be scum, like as scum why does he want me/RC/you/Shoshin annoyed with him

DT believes that attacking people will lead them to townread him.

[DoubtingThomas]

thanks for letting others know about how i think and operate

[Auro]

I feel like DT has cut off too many relationships this game to be scum, like as scum why does he want me/RC/you/Shoshin annoyed with him

I'm guessing it's a playstyle thing - I'll read some of his old games to be sure. How do you form reads on abrasive players in general?

[Shoshin]

>Bad push on Irre's excitement and refusal to answer my questions asking why

I didn't refuse to answer why, you refused the explanation. To be clear, I said Irrel's excitement was scummy because he prefers to play scum over town. Why are you saying things that aren't true?

>"I'm not scum, I'm disappointed in you"

Is there something fake about feeling disappointed when you're incorrectly scumread?

>"If you want to push my lynch I'll push a lynch on you"

What's scummy about holding the self-proclaimed "best scumhunter on the site" to a higher standard when it comes to reading me?

Also:

When I beat you as scum, RC, I'm going to be so town that you're going to be telling everyone never to lynch me as I lead your mislynch.

I get the feeling she's deliberately not putting in effort to look towny from this quote, and for some reason thinks that should get her townread?

The point behind this post is that I'd be interacting with RC very differently if I were scum who knew he was town. Why are you making up a false narrative from thin air?

[Shoshin]

I don't like Auro's scumread on me at all.

[Auro]

Irrel's excitement means he's scum, yes.

This was your "explanation"? Doesn't feel like one, I recall asking you to provide evidence he gets more excited as scum which you said was "useless". If you explained this later, I might have missed it - apologies.

[Shoshin]

I think Irrel needs to clear up this whole "excitement" thing because he knows better than anyone why I pushed him on that.

[Shoshin]

Irrel's excitement means he's scum, yes.

This was your "explanation"? Doesn't feel like one, I recall asking you to provide evidence he gets more excited as scum which you said was "useless". If you explained this later, I might have missed it - apologies.

No, that wasn't my explanation. The explanation was me saying Irrel prefers scum to town. The evidence was Irrel expressly stating that fact in the game.

[Auro]

Is there something fake about feeling disappointed when you're incorrectly scumread?

Possibly. Continuously saying stuff like "I'm disappointed", "It's absurd you think I'm scum", "I'll push you if you push me" seems easy to fake, no? Like I'd expect town to work on the pushes and see where they're originating, and make a better attempt to look towny.

[Shoshin]

Shoshin also: you scumread me for being excited to be here.

Presumably because you know I enjoy rolling scum most?

But like, I also enjoy rolling town... and I’m especially excited by the idea I might be in a town with you/RC/Auro/Volxen. I think it’s ridiculous that you think my excitement to play (especially after a long break away from mafia) is scum-indicative

This is your evidence, Auro. I thought you would have picked this up if you cared that much.

[Auro]

The point behind this post is that I'd be interacting with RC very differently if I were scum who knew he was town. Why are you making up a false narrative from thin air?

I'm specifically talking about the "I'd look so town" part.

[Shoshin]

Is there something fake about feeling disappointed when you're incorrectly scumread?

Possibly. Continuously saying stuff like "I'm disappointed", "It's absurd you think I'm scum", "I'll push you if you push me" seems easy to fake, no? Like I'd expect town to work on the pushes and see where they're originating, and make a better attempt to look towny.

Who cares what's possible? Just because something's easy to fake doesn't mean it's more likely to come from scum. What kind of reasoning is this?

[Shoshin]

The point behind this post is that I'd be interacting with RC very differently if I were scum who knew he was town. Why are you making up a false narrative from thin air?

I'm specifically talking about the "I'd look so town" part.

I was talking about what RC would think. The idea of "looking town" is too abstract to have any meaning outside what specific people think.